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True Detective

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Jt0323, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. Deerless Dice

    Deerless Dice Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Absolutely love this show. While I don't believe Marty is the yellow king, he is certainly involved. It's not a coincidence that the last episode finishes up at the school, and when Rust met the schools groundskeeper (The Remus from Boardwalk Empire) in the earlier episode, Marty pulled Rust away before he really had a chance to talk to him.
     
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  2. Paul 13

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    yeah I was thinking about that earlier, about Marty pulling Rust away at the school. Trying to remember if Marty was being alerted to something over the police radio before that or not. I don't think he was. I think he just started honking the car at Rust. And I didn't know that was Remus... :lol: "Remus mows lawns while sitting down. Remus wouldn't like to mow lawns standing up."
     
  3. bigbry

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    I think Marty was part of the cover-up due to some higher ups direct involvement. However, I thinks its obvious now that his daughter was a victim of something. Now he must balance the cover-up, his killing of the drug cookers with his daughters victimization. Somehow its all intertwined. Now Martys daughter may not of been sexually abused but she at least witnessed some heavy **** go down, enough to really screw her mind.

    The only reason why Marty continues the deflection during interviews with the detectives is the Yellow King was found out and both Marty and Rust played a significant role in his demise.
    BTW, the detectives aren't after Rust, they are after Marty.
     
  4. bigbry

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    I would also like to add Ireland is probably the Yellow King, and Philbin and Ross are just covering by not mentioning it at all.
     
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  5. Paul 13

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    Ireland is the Ginger King.
     
  6. Deerless Dice

    Deerless Dice Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If Rust already got the Yellow King, who committed the latest murder? The window seems too small between the murder and the interviews.
     
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  8. Bumrush

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    Every time I think Marty is not involved something pops up that makes me think that perhaps he is involved.

    Case for Marty:
    - He showed complete and total disgust when he went to the Bunny Ranch and noticed one of the girls was underage. The rage was unbridled.
    - His anger towards people that abuse children was obvious when he saw the two kidnapped kids and immediately popped Reggie Ledoux in the head.
    - When it comes to his own family he is extremely protective of his girls and threatened retribution against the adults that were gangbanging his daughter.

    Case against Marty:
    - His supposedly unshakable moral values take a break when he decides to bang a woman half his age and justifies it constantly as needing a release from job stress.
    - His violence towards her and the guy she hooked up with. He saw her as a piece of property that he owned, despite the fact that he was married.
    - His daughter both acting act out as a child and as an adult.
    - The fact that he popped Reggie Ledoux in the head.
    - Remember how the writer said you learned everything you needed to know in the first episode? I know the "I have a big d*ck" comment drew laughs, but why was that so important? Could that comment have been written to show a different side of him?

    No way in hell Rust is the Yellow King or involved in the conspiracy.
    - Rust arrested Reggie Ledoux and seemed cool and collective.
    - Rust realized that his main goal was to find the killer and get information at the Bunny Ranch, not be the moral police.

    My money is that Rust and Marty were both going deep undercover as it became clear that the true Yellow King was still around. Once Marty found out his daughter was either abused or involved, his emotions got the best of him, like it had previously and he did the same thing he did to Ledoux, right as Rust was going to break the case.
     
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  9. bigbry

    bigbry Huge Member

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    C'mon people....more theories
     
  10. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's all just a dream.
     
  11. Sethdaddy8

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    I use to read word up magazine.
     
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  12. bigbry

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    [​IMG]
    yellow tie
     
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  13. Paul 13

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    quick someone photoshop the spiral symbol thing in place of the sun burst in the Dolphins logo.
     
  14. Paul 13

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  15. NaboCane

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    You know what sucks about this?

    1. The rest of the week feels like a waste of time, just waiting for Sundays.

    2. There are only three weeks left.

    **** waiting until 2015 for the next anthology.
     
  16. bigbry

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    Ahhhhhhh, yes I remember those days.
     
  17. Bumrush

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    The waiting is a lot more tolerable with the abundance of internet porn now available.
     
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  18. HardKoreXXX

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    My theory: Rust infiltrated the cult as a deep cover and he and Marty have been working the case the whole time.

    My guess is Marty's daughter joined the cult which is why Rust went UC

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  19. Deerless Dice

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    Great episode as usual. Doesn't look like Rust and Marty were working together during the split. That next episode preview, looks like Rust found the cause of Marty's older daughter's behavior.
     
  20. bigbry

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    Well, this episode was only decent but needed to be to set up the last two.

    Whether Marty sees his daughter in the pictures/video actually being physically abused remains to be seen.

    Personally I think she was forced to witness something horrible.

    Yeah, they both go after the the Yellow King full on after Marty sees what his victims are forced to endure before the victims ultimate demise.

    The reason why the black detectives are on to Marty and Rust is what the new evidence is all about, the Yellow King and cult being killed off with a few getting away and giving anonymous reports to police.
     
  21. bigbry

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    Rust had to at least put himself very close to some cult members to get pictures/video.

    The church leader sure played a real scummy cover-up type of guy.
     
  22. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Im really hoping the Reverand (Tuttle?) isn't involved. Having the center of evil being a man pushing religion and school choice would be really lame. Hopefully it's something institutional where they just wanted to look the other way.

    I'm hoping the pace picks up a bit. I'm having a hard time seeing all of these questions answered in 2 episodes.
     
  23. I do not think they are planning to answer all your questions. It would not be very lovecraft like if they did.
     
  24. maynard

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    Yeah you are probably right. It will just end abruptly and then cut to some other detectives finding a ritualized dead body in some other God-awful place with flat circle cut outs all over the place lol

    Its kind of interesting reading about some of the inspirations, and the book about a play that made people crazy, yet people kept watching it out of curiosity. A recap I read suggested that the girl in the psych ward watched the "play" which in our world would be LeDoux and the scarred faced man and all of that
     
  25. Bumrush

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    Have you guys noticed in the opening sequence of the show that there is one scene where Marty strongly resembles the drawing of the scary guy in the woods that chased that girl around? In the opening credits there is something superimposed on his face that looks nearly identical to the drawing.. Not saying there is a link but it is clear.

    EDIT: Did a little digging and put this together:

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  26. Bumrush

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    Also,
    IMHO this was one of the best episodes yet.

    Amazing acting. Amazing storyline. Loved it.
     
  27. NaboCane

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    Michelle Monaghan has a luscious pooper.
     
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  28. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    The director seems to enjoy the backsides
     
  29. maynard

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    Honestly, if the giant actually looks like that sketch, I may need to rock myself to sleep that night
     
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  30. NaboCane

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    The man with scars on his face.

    I do think that's misdirection; although they are setting up Marty more and more to be a bad guy, so we buy an ending in which he turns out to be a scumbag.

    I don't think anyone could resist that chick, though.
     
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  32. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Pretty sure that was an *** double but I'm not complaining.
     
  33. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Definitely a set up episode for the final two. Not a letdown, but not as great as the two episodes prior. Good timing to reveal the main reason for Marty/Rust's relationship dissolving, as that was the most spice of last night's show and helped pep up an otherwise, tepid viewing.

    Tuttle clearly seems to be involved on some level, but I am not sure exactly where. One thing I did notice was that in the 2002 versions of themselves, Marty and a Rust have a different boss, than the 1995 version. It is probably nothing, but it stood out to me last night.

    And agreed about Marty's daughter being involved. But I think it is the younger daughter that is the victim, not the older.
     
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    Would Rust show Marty a video with his daughter being abused? or would it be a video of one of the other victims?
     
  35. Deerless Dice

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    Marty is probably apprehensive about getting back into this with Rust, especially after what the 2012 interviewers told him(loading his gun after Rust makes contact) and the fight in 2002(mowing Marty's lawn, again). It could be another child being abused because we know Marty can't control himself when he sees it. The daughter makes sense because we know something happened to her but the show has been quiet on details.
     
  36. Bumrush

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    Which would tie back to why would Rust bring Marty back, given that Rust is the brains behind all the work?

    Precisely because he knows that he can leverage the unbridled anger that Marty has to his advantage
     
  37. Paul 13

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    good to see Eli (from Boardwalk Empire) back, if only for a brief episode... I had his character confused with Tuttle. He got out when the going was good I guess.

    It's pretty clear that Tuttle was involved at the top in some capacity in this whole thing. Lets hope it's not predictable from here on out. The intriguing thing to me though is how these two (Rust and Marty) will "leave" the series this season? The assumption is that they will both die somehow. But maybe that doesn't happen. Maybe one or both of them come back later in the series (at the end several seasons from now).
     
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  38. Paul 13

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    oh and Lili Simmons is incredibly hot.
     
  39. Deerless Dice

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    I get the feeling that the season is going to end with Rust getting the Reggie Ledoux treatment courtesy of Marty.
     
  40. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    I banged out all 6 episodes between last night and this morning. It's an excellent show. I've always been a fan of Woody Harrelson.

    I am not sure where this season is headed. I am 99.9% positive that Cohle is not involved in the cult (or whatever you want to call it). I know he doesn't sleep much, but I can't see a Fight Club dual personality plot device being employed. That would be weak. Hart in the other hand.....I'm not sold on him not being involved. The way he just blew Ledoux's brains out....that seemed a bit much. He knows there were other victims, yet he goes and blows away any chance of solving those cases. It really seems like he wanted to silence Ledoux forever. And I have no idea what is up with the doll scene and the daughter. That had to come from some experience. But what? Then I step back and think to myself, Marty is not the mastermind type. No way he is behind what is going on. However,was he playing a small part until things went to far and his daughter became involved? I'll guess we'll see.

    One thing I feel strongly about is that the two detectives questioned all three (Cohle, Hart, and Maggie) because those 3 are under investigation, most likely in the death of Tuttle. In the episode 7 preview we see three masked figures searching through a house. Seems like Marty, Rust and Maggie to me. I guess we'll see soon enough!

    A friend of mine told me he read that the writer of the series said there wouldn't be a surprise ending. You guys believe that?
     
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