How should we attack this draft..Sexy vrs unsexy?

We couldn't score because our line couldn't block. Tannehill had no time and the backs had no lanes. We get the line to average instead of atrocious, we're in the playoffs. There are plenty of lineman in this draft that can help with that. I'm not even sure how this is an argument.

 

And we didn't have any playmakers to make up for the lack of blocking.

There are still plenty of linemen in free agency that can help. Also later in the draft. Also rookie free agents. With good coaching Miami could have a decent line. Already have two pro bowlers.

This is an argument because football is not as simple as that.

 

Yes it is as simple as that.

Tannehill needs time to throw, the RBs need a hole on occasion. We have playmakers (Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Clay are playmakers), we didn't have a serviceable line.

 

Having playmakers can increase time to throw, help with holes and change the way defensive players think and defend.

What happened when Hartline and Gibson went down? Offense went to ****! Didn't have enough playmakers.

Offensive line is important however doesn't need to be fixed with the first pick in the draft.

 

Clay is best as a 2nd tight end. He stepped up big and I am happy with that. Hartline is a fine player, however he goes out and nothing.

Having a player who can take a 1.5 second play and turn it into 20 or more yards would certainly help.

Having a tight end that actually allows you to attack the middle would help as well. I love Clay but the guy isn't good at going up for the ball.

 

Moses
Joyner
Seastrunk
Dozier

 

I would take option one, and find some mid round OL. Sign Winston.

 

Preferably, but not necessarily.

First off once the left tackle is taken care of then it's a little dubious to be picking guards or right tackles all the way up at pick #19 overall. That's a personal preference based on position values. I'm not eliminating the possibility. Hell I adored David DeCastro and easily would've picked him that high. But it's a factor.

Second, I find it confusing if you ARE going to take a position whose value doesn't quite match up with the 19th overall pick...why in the hell would you pick a guy you have to project to one of those spots because you've literally never seen him play it? That inserts considerable risk into the equation, making it an even worse pick.

Generally speaking when I'm picking high in the draft, I don't want unknowns. It's tough enough nailing the value of a pick that high correctly without making life harder on yourself.

As far as a right tackle is concerned though I don't even think Zack Martin is the most ideal right tackle likely to be available at #19. Morgan Moses and JaWuan James are both preferable at right tackle. You're not forced to project them at that spot. You're not forced to visit imaginationland in order to decide if they can play right tackle. You've seen it, recently. You've seen them play it. You know they have the power characteristics necessary at right tackle. You know they can anchor. You know they can pass protect.

At left guard I think you'd far prefer Xavier Su'a-Filo to Zack Martin. Again you can pop on the tape of Su'a-Filo and see him playing left guard, see him digging a 1-technique out of the hole. You've seen him pull like a guard. You've seen him drive block and combo block. You also know that Su'a-Filo has difficult to find characteristics for a guard in terms of his lateral agility and mirror abilities that go along with powerful drive blocking ability. You don't really know any of that about Zack Martin.

In short if the Dolphins were to take Xavier Su'a-Filo at #19 then that would be a superior pick to Zack Martin as a left guard. If the Dolphins were to take Morgan Moses at #19 that would be a superior pick to Zack Martin as a right tackle. And if you don't really think those guys are the best value at #19 because you like Kyle Fuller better, or perhaps Eric Ebron, Jace Amaro, Brandin Cooks, Kony Ealy or Jason Verrett...so be it.

 

Winston has become a turnstile.

I've looked at the past few drafts and you can easily get a starting OT in the first 2 rounds but after that it's extremely difficult. There are a few exceptions but the chance of finding a starting OT rounds 3-7 are slim.

So if there is a great explosive impact player there in the first, we should get him but we better get an OT in 2nd round.

 

I completely agree.

 

combination of both.

 

Most teams suffer if they lose two of their top 3 WRs. that's not unique to our situation. We lost plenty of games with those guys. The only play makers we could add to the offense either catch the ball or run it (or both), and they would be wasted on a team that doesn't have an oline that allows time to throw or holes to run through. Most teams suffer if their QB has consistently less then 2.5 seconds to throw the ball.

The other thing is that Albert is not a long term solution. We need his replacement on the team and learning no later than next year, preferably this year.

 

I believe you need 2 starting tackles and at least one solid guard or center. We got 2 of those right now. We also need Albert's eventual replacement, which is what I hope we get for RT. When tannehill has time to throw he is in the 90s. When he is in the 90s we win the overwhelming majority of our games...with the "weapons" we have now. Until the line is fixed new weapons are wasted.

So, if we can fix the line with players from lower rounds, then so be it. But let's remember that RT is increasingly becoming pretty important, I mean hell, Wake is lined up against other teams RTs and he's not the only one. Last year I banged the drum for sexy picks, like Austin. I also thought Philbin had the line he wanted. We later found out he did not and Ireland wasn't listening to him. A player like Austin is rare though and I haven't seen anyone in this draft that could provide the threat he is.

Not too mention, Tannehill needs a line so we can finally, definitively say if he's the one or not. (He is, IMO.)

 

i totally agree with this. i thought it was just me. saw him some last season, he was getting beat consistently. in the thread of we shouldnt draft, this guy was the first person i thought of.

 

I gotta agree with Chris. Zack Martin might be the better overall prospect, but if we're looking specifically at right tackle, I think Moses is the play, preferably with our 2nd or trade up of 2nd. We didn't bring in Branden Albert for his run blocking prowess, and Pouncey is more finesse than kick-your-teeth-in mauler. Ditto for Dallas Thomas. So I think it'd behoove our short yardage situational ball to interject some nasty into it at RT and G. Moses is a potential All Pro right tackle and can be a guy to help boost the ground game without spending a high pick on a running back. Then add Marcus Martin or Dakota Dozier to the interior and I think we'd have a better balance of power and finesse without compromising the overall athleticism of the line like last year.