I know its early but do you like what Hickey is doing

You have a sense? Saying he's been meh neglects the fact that we operate in a market. I'd have loved Monroe but the dude preferred the ravens so we have Albert. FA isn't just picking all the best players and signing them because there are 31 other teams doing the same.

 

And you forgot to mention the 18 years Hickey was in the NFL ranks. Hickey failed to achieve any higher of a ranking then glorified scout master. He was passed over by his own team for GM or any type of Assistant GM position. During his tenure with Dominik and the Bucs I believe the Bucs were 28-52. If your own team won't even give you an interview it is obvious what they think of him. No counter offer to stay, nothing. All anyone should need to know.

Hickey has done nothing so far that any other reasonable GM in the league would have already done. In fact he may have already made several mistakes. Only time will tell.

I hope he blows the draft up. I am optimistic and hopeful for the good of this team. I am a realist though. Philbin has a lot of blame for last seasons diabolical and in my opinion COUP D'ETAT of Jeff Ireland. If he let this team tank to oust Ireland (I think he did) - he should be fired. I am not saying the Phins are not better off without Ireland. Only Hickey can prove otherwise. I believe this draft will be a middle of the road draft. No different then Jeff Ireland's drafts. But Hey we got a guy who is going to work within the framework of the organization. Short hand for : Take orders

I just want people to remember if it was Ireland's fault for the state of this team including the Code red and development of players. Then it is also Hickeys.

 

just when you thought you have seen it all...so philbin did tell his players to lose games on purpose because he wanted JI fired ??? lol..

 

No coach in the NFL would ever throw a game away unless they locked into a seed, doesn't matter if their team is 0-15 they aren't going to risk their jobs just to get someone fired. Philbin could have gotten Ireland fired by simply telling Ross he doesn't want that guy evaluating talent for me, which I wouldn't doubt that he did.

 

Do you honestly think it's that simple?

 

Never said anything about telling players anything. Have you ever considered it for just a second. Or are you the type of guy that buys the "lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman theory"?

Ok, I'll play along. Must just have been incompetent coaching then. You explain it how?

 

Took the words right out of my mouth. That had to be one of the most ridiculous theories I've EVER read here. Philbin intentionally tanked the last two games to get JI fired.

 

Cannot speak for Alex, but I have never believed LHO acted alone, though I do not see how that connects to your hair brained idea that Philbin tanked the season to get Ireland fired. For all he knew he could have been fired too.

 

This is mitigated in part due to the fact that our success will mostly hinge on Tannehill's development. For his flaws, Andy Dalton threw 33 touchdowns last season. We should at least be able to expect Andy Dalton. Hickey can give Tannehill the best chance to win but he can't make the game click.

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Considering Philbin's bromance with friend and mentor, Sherman; who he was forced to fire, there is no way he tanked the season. It was simply a massive fail on all levels of the team. Agree that LHO was a patsy. Fail to see the correlation here.

 

Umm... If by" type of guy" you mean the vast majority of people then that's a good guess. It must suck being the only one with open eyes.

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i don´t know man, they just **** the bed the last 2 games imo, they had the chance to do it and they choked

 

Vast majority of people? Are you saying the vast majority of people believe that Lee Harvey Oswald got off 3 shots (the thought is there were actually 4, one missed completely hitting the curb), with a mail order old Italian bolt action rifle in under 6 seconds, scoring a head shot and several other wounds to the President and Gov Connolly.

http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-marksman-sharpshooter

So you get my patsy analogy. I think it is well documented that power grabbing Aponte aligned herself with Philbin so they could strengthen their positions when the **** hit the fan with Ross. There is no argument. It is well documented on this board. They aligned and Ireland took the fall....simple.

 

Fair enough.

Most of us wanted Ireland gone for varying reasons. I was not one of those people. I thought Ireland was doing a reasonable job. If I had to rate his performance I would give 6.5/10. Could have been better? Don't know - Not sure. We have not had exactly the best coaching staff and people who could take the talent and develop it and fit it into what we are trying to do.

We tried to develop Tannehill with two Rookie QB coaches that had a combined total of I believe it was 5 yrs college.......Really? This is what Philbin had got for this franchise? He actually thought we were going to win that way? It is not the only place the coaches had little to no experience. It just isn't fair to put it all on Ireland when the Head coach had input. With the input comes the responsibility to develop the talent, which didn't happen. 7-9, 8-8 that's Joe Philbins record, not Jeff Ireland.

I know Ireland was considered by most in circles to be an *******. Those are the reports I read. I don't believe he was as much a jerk as many portrayed him to be. Escape goats are easy to set up.

http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/a...c-Taylor/06834a51-0789-4571-bc20-c1c15c720640

http://coachingroots.com/football/coaches/ben-johnson

Do you guys not find it odd that we are doubling down, with the same inexperienced coaches for Tannehill to learn from? I know Lazer is here, but good lord he has his hands full.

It is an illustration that Philbin is in over his head and a big part of the reason we have been 7-9 and 8-8. Including the last 2 losses and the reason we failed to make the playoffs

 

This year, Hickey reminds me a lot of Ireland's last year.

He's hit with the big ticket signing that everybody wanted, and then signed up some names that most people hace agreed have improved the team including a gamble or two.

Where Ireland came unstuck was the unholy mess of OL and LB play that was unleashed on us poor unsuspecting fans. That IMO came down to creating a bad locker room culture (I blame Ireland for keeping Incognito on the roster after the golf course incidents). Also there is the open question of whether our coaching is good enough to develop the talent on the roster and/or design plays to their strengths. The GM is ultimately responsible for the caliber of coaches we have.

So for me Hickey has done the obvious things well, which is what Ireland did last year. The proof will be in the non-obvious things like development of a good locker room culture and the coaching staff developing and improving our players.

 

I don't think he is top-5.

Either way, it was too much money. Signing Albert required almost no skill/foresight. He basically looked at an ESPN list of team needs, and then matched it up with an ESPN list of available FAs.

 

Who do you think we should have signed?

 

Players that can outperform their contracts. I don't agree with the premise that the team was obligated to sign a highly-regarded LT just because it was a need. Giving out big contracts to fill needs is battleship football to a T.

 

So, how would you have addressed the LT situation? We got a guy who was tied for 4th best pass blocking LT in 2013, and was 7th in 2012. Even if the signing took no skill or foresight, that makes it a bad signing?

 

Yes, because it takes away money that could have been used on other things. A BMW M3 is a great car, but surely nobody would be happy buying one for $90k.

To put things in perspective, the Dolphins guaranteed Albert as much money as Anthony Collins, Geoff Schwartz, and Hakeem Nicks...combined.

 

What would you have done to address LT?

 

You could draft someone and go with McKinnie in the short-term. You could sign Anthony Collins for half of what Albert is making. You could even *gasp* start a below-average LT, like plenty of other successful teams do. There are literally hundreds of possible permutations that don't require overpaying for the guy at the top of CBS's "best FA" list.

 

I'm confused are you saying that Philbin tanked the last two games to get Ireland fired or was he and his coaching staff so over their head that 8-8 was all they could muster?

 

After beating the Pats there was talk of Philbin as coach of the year. Had we won the last two games of the season that talk would have gotten a lot more serious and had we won a playoff game Philbin's stock would have risen exponentially. Loosing those games lessened Philbin's clout with Ross, not enhanced it. If he tanked those games on purpose he essentially shot himself in the foot.

 

So there were other routes the team could have gone, though does adding Albert to the roster in of itself really constitute a bad decision?

 

For the price he cost, IMO yes. You aren't just adding Albert. You're adding Albert and subtracting a number of resources.

 

Not a common opinion, and I don't mean guys posting here.

 

john Jerry , Daniel Thomas and J. Martin and Incognito may not be slugs but they were not productive but I guess slugs might be uncalled for but the play calling was probally the most disappointing thing about our team so you have a point about coaching .

 

You do realize that us starting a below-average LT prior to the McKinnie is one of the main reasons why we only won eight games, right?

 

Which resources were subtracted due to the signing of Albert?

 

$26MM in guaranteed salary.

 

The aggregate talent of the team was the reason Miami was 8-8.

 

And the reason we beat 4 playoff teams.

 

Lack of talent was hardly the issue. And according to your logic what we really needed was more cap space. Yeah, let's protect the QB with our cap space lol.

 

Do you realize how inherently flawed this argument is if you're in support of the contract Albert received?

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i don't really understand why fans care about cap space. For one, teams who stockpiled it seem to be stuck with no one to spend it on these days. (look at the raiders and the jets). The cap is only going to get bigger and bigger in the next few years. There's seriously NOTHING to be concerned with. The cap is supposed to raise to 150+ million by 2016. Secondly, its not your money, why do you care? If it's not crippling our cap space (and isn't cause lord knows Ireland didn't draft well enough for us to be worried about re-signing most our draft picks) then let it go.

 

Has that kept us from signing anyone?

 

I'd say your argument is the one that is flawed. We have like the 5th most cap room, signed a top 5 pass blocking LT and you are worried as if the money is coming out of your pocket.

 

Not necessarily did he shoot himself in the foot, sometimes the means justifies the end. The wins over teams like KC, New England, San Diego illustrates that when coached well the talent was there. Thank You Jeff Ireland. The losses - poor coaching. It is what it is. The only reason I make it an issue is most want to view things with optimism. Why? Because we as humans are selfish by nature, that shot of dopamine your brain puts out when things are positive is the most addictive drug on the planet. I don't have a problem. Do I think Philbin said to anyone "If we tank Ireland is Gone"? No, the guys not an idiot. He just did very little to stop it from happening. Proof is in history. We bombed the last two games, not even competitive but then played and beat teams that some thought would end up in the super-bowl. No adjustments. We got man-handled. But now we double down on this coaching staff? Hell we are still trying to develop Ryan Tannhill with two eventually Rookie QB coaches, who have almost zero personal playing time. If as a player you couldn't make it even on the field, how exactly does that translate into coaching and teaching a guy how to do what you were never able to? A guy who is supposed to be the future of this franchise. To me it would be a different story if Tannehill were being mentored by someone like Marino or Pennington. At least it would seem like we are trying. But just hiring guys because you owe a guy a favor and entrusting the entire future of this team to "coaches" who before last year never coached the position, I don't know -----you judge

 

If our success largely hinges on the development of Ryan Tannehill, then maybe you can explain why Our prized QB is being coached by essentially two rookie QB coaches?

How is this going to "Take us to the promise land"?

Hell none of us our Professional football people and we know better then that.