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Curtis Lofton - LB - No Reserve Auction

Discussion in 'Trades' started by 305, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. Mach

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  2. VanDolPhan

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    In every trade now I am putting the line "I reserve the right to not accept a deal with Todd for any reason"

    Even when he isn't involved. Just to cover my ***.
     
  3. Boik14

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    Ok but this isn't ebay and the part you're missing is his right to extend the auction 12 hours. It doesn't say he can only do that 1x.
     
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  4. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    How come you *******s couldnt put this much effort into this thread BEFORE my bff UCF won
     
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  5. ToddPhin

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    He didn't extend the auction 12 hours. He extended it 3 hours and 58 minutes at 8:03 in the morning when most people wouldn't be seeing it.
     
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  7. Boik14

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    No he extended it 12 hours. It was scheduled to end at 1159 on 3/3. He ended it at 12 noon. thats 12 hours.

     
  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    This auction is property of 305... if he wants to run it a certain way, the GML doesn't accept responsibility for any damages or stress caused therein. Auctions have always been open to interpretation. It's 305 that has his credibility on the line here... :shifty: when is the next auction man? :shifty:
     
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  9. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    That's a laugh. Firstly, UCF didn't win crap. As his bff you obviously threw him special privileges even though they violated the clearly established rules of your auction. As Boik pointed out, there was no last minute sniping involved, and you SPECIFICALLY stated what a sniping bid was in the thread's third post [see below]. Then you restated at 3PM yesterday that the auction would end at MIDNIGHT [also see below].
    Therefore, obviously my bid was within the confines of your auction rules, and based on those rules Curtis Lofton was a Seahawk at midnight. So please tell us why, rather than being a man about it and sticking to your guns, you decided to defy your own auction rules by allowing a 6 hour late sniping bid to be submitted?

    ..... and why did you defy your opening post by giving everyone such a small, unreasonable, 3 hour and 58 minute window to counter UCF's bid? I mean- wasn't your intention behind a potential use of an extension to allow others sufficient time to counter a last minute sniping bid? Isn't a bid 6 hours after the auction ended about as "final minute" as it gets?

    Why did UCF feel so entitled to make such a late bid even though he clearly knew the auction rules, clearly knew the auction was over at midnight as you reminded everyone, and clearly had sufficient time to counter bid?

    Seems apparent that you only extended the auction to make UCF's late sniping bid valid b/c if you were concerned about what's fair for everyone, you would've extended the auction 12 hours from the time of your post rather than making 2/3rds of the extension retroactive where the chances are high we wouldn't even see your post in time to bid. If you cared more about your auction's integrity and league's integrity you would've let the auction itself determine the winner rather than trying to hook UCF up after the fact. But yeah, sure, you weren't playing favorites or anything. :001_rolleyes:
     
  10. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Waaayyyyyyy TLDR

    Waiting to see if this deal with Cam Jordan and Vacarro goes through or not
     
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  12. ToddPhin

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    Technically the auction ended at midnight and remained so until 8:03 AM when 305 decided to reopen and extend it until noon. That leaves 3 hours and 57 minutes. Twelve hours might've elapsed from the time the original auction ended, but the actual extension time comprised 4 hours. The rest was inapplicable dead time.

    The point of 305's extension, per his opening post's caveat, was to provide a sniped GM with reasonable opportunity to submit another bid. Giving us a 4 hour notice at 8 AM on a weekday isn't sufficient time to ensure a sniped GM has an opportunity to counter [well, 3 hours considering 305 extends auctions if there's a bid within the final hour].

    Considering there was no last minute sniping bid to induce an extension, I had no reason to break away from my busy morning to check in on the thread. I leisurely logged in during lunch only to find UCF had made an invalid bid six hours after the auction closed, that 305 actually accepted it w/o just cause, and that the auction had already closed at noon before I could offer a counter bid. That's weak sauce man. 305 should've just title the thread: "I wanna trade Curtis Lofton to UCF but need the league's help to determine his price". What 305 and UCF did might be tolerable to the league but it doesn't change the fact we both know it's bush league, especially UCF's arrogant, insulting post afterward as if it were me who tried to skirt the clearly defined rules of the auction rather than himself.
     
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  14. ToddPhin

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  15. ToddPhin

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    I know right, heaven forbid I expect a no reserve auction with a specific ending date to, you know, adhere to the integrity of the auction and let the auction itself determine the winning bidder. Yeah but I'm the ***hole right. [that's a figure of speech BTW, not an attack on anyone]

    If you feel compelled to throw in a disclaimer about reserving the right to not accept a deal from me, then all it means is you know heading into the deal that you're about as unscrupulous as 305 & UCF and feel the need to protect yourself against your own dishonesty.








    Side note to all: If anyone else feels they lack the requisite scruples & integrity to do an honest deal without needing the assistance of a shady loophole to weasel your way out [like Van's example above], you might as well step forward now while we're on the subject. I take it the fist bumps given Van's post represent those among the list, two of whom don't surprise me considering UCF actually believed he was above this auction and could operate outside of its clearly defined rules, and considering Fin-O is low enough to try and scam a GM into committing to a trade he has no intention of holding good on for the sole purpose of tying up his trade partner long enough to prevent him/her from making a needed side deal. It's truly amazing how many people today couldn't care less about integrity or being held accountable for their own actions and even more amazing how many speak against it as though its supporters are the ones trying to screw people over. What a backward group of people some of you are. Disappointing really. But hey, with how backward society has become, maybe now I'm the ***hole for expecting more from you guys than this sort of crap, especially those who serve[d] in the military, and especially b/c many of us have known each other for years, spend a lot of time in the presence of each other in this place, and will continue to know each other here for years to come.
     
  16. BuckeyeKing

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    This molehill is the size of Mt Everest.
     
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  17. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Finally a valid post.. theres hope for you yet
     
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  18. Fin-Omenal

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    Military card, huh..I assume most who served have the discipline to not spout off about the silliest of issues EVERY SINGLE TIME. Honestly? You have been in the center of almost every issue in this league, why is that? Your going on your second screen name for a reason, you can't control yourself when things don't go your way. Seek a sedative.

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  19. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I hate siding with Todd, but........
     
  20. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Leave the cool kids table... now
     
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  21. Fin-Omenal

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    Regardless, no reason to start bashing our fresh out of the box GM. Then attack me (ofcourse) and UCF in the mean time. This has been one helluva dramatic year and most of us are just ready to draft and put this season to bed.
     
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  23. PSG

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    I agree with not needing all the bashing....but just Todd being Todd.
    I was more talking about agreeing with Todd with how the auction was held...or at least ended.
     
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    He actually has some merit in his gripes, just handled it bad as usual. Quoting federal laws of Ebay etc. Just needs to learn how to brush things off better instead of making himself look bad by throwing tantrums.
     
  25. ToddPhin

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    bashing? GFY. I didn't force 305 to renege on his No Reserve Auction that ran its course without any sniping bids EXACTLY like he requested. I've been nothing but cool to the guy since I've known him here, yet he couldn't man up and be decent & courteous enough to send a PM to winning bidder [me] to inform me he's reopening the auction until noon. He wanted to hook UCF up and didn't care if he screwed me over in the process. You think I'm gonna respect that type of bush league crap? GTHO here. It's laughably rich coming from you who was kicked out last year for whining more than the entire league combined. Hell, your level of whining makes mine look like Sam Jackson from Pulp Fiction in comparison.

    You're hands-down the dirtiest and most unscrupulous person I'm aware of at ThePhins, so it doesn't surprise me that you speak up so much against people who are vocal about wanting stuff to be fair and right. You should probably STHU about stuff that doesn't concern, b/c as dramatic as you think I seem, you're being equally as dramatic. Only difference is- at least this stuff pertains to me, where as you're running your Situation Jr Lite mouth just to do so.
     
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  28. ToddPhin

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    Exactly. My team has been hindered and screwed with well more than anyone else's this year, much of which is due to having a bullseye on my back from the start, which is heavily annoying but at the same time is perceived as a sign of respect b/c you guys, especially you, clearly viewed me as a threat to your own teams and desires to win GM of Year.

    Actually, to address your dumbass "EVERY SINGLE TIME" statement, HALF OF THE CRAP that happened I either brushed off or discussed privately via PM. Show me the huge public stinks I made about you guys poisoning the Harvin-Cobb trade and Harvin himself which made Percy untradable.... or having Von Miller poisoned in my own Team Trade Thread which made him untradable.... or GIK egging others on to bid up Jimmy Graham just so Seattle wouldn't get him.... or your dishonest bull**** regarding the Michael Bennett trade? It didn't happen, genius.

    My team has been f***ed with so much from all sides throughout the season that I literally stopped giving a sh** about the league this year, which is why half way into the season I felt no need to restrain myself from being dramatic or vocal about bull**** transpiring. It's been obvious since the start of the season that many of you didn't want to see me build the best team and win GM of Year, so why should I care about trying to be as pleasant, agreeable, and non-confrontational as possible in order to beguile others for votes that I know they don't wanna give in the first place? If me and my team were screwed with as little as every other GM, I'd have just as little to complain about as they do.

    Commence with Mach's "didn't read" GIF.
     
  29. Fin-Omenal

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  30. ToddPhin

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    Please. You're more like Situation Jr Lite who acts like Urkel.

    Riddle me this greaseball: when anything goes down, like in this thread, why is it that you're ALWAYS so much more preoccupied with antagonizing or condemning the party who speaks up against being wronged or whatnot than you are about speaking up against the party responsible for it who initiated the mess in the first place? I'll tell you why. It's cause you're a shady sonofablank who would sell his own mother if it allowed you to rake someone over the coals in a trade. Seriously dude, you wouldn't know integrity or scruples if they were one of the Piggly Wiggly work-release meth heads you pay with stolen bottles of Robitussin to service you while wearing a JWoww halloween mask to hide his stubbly 9 o'clock shadow.
     
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    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    It's funny, if it weren't for memes and gifs [which other people of greater intelligence than yourself create], your dimwittedness would be left with no redeeming retorts whatsoever since we all know you'd fail miserably if you actually had to resort to real stuff... like words.
     
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  34. BuckeyeKing

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    This is still going strong... Its Curtis Lofton not Luke Kuechely.

    Who gives a **** just move on.
     
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  35. Fin-Omenal

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    It's the biggest crybaby in TP.com history. Ofcourse it's still an issue.

    The Detroit kid said it best before, he's justca butt hurt cry baby.

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  36. ToddPhin

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    Go back to your applesauce team dude. err, are you out of inherited high 1st round draft picks and drunk GMs to use to easily buy and build the Rams?
     
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  38. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Clearly. Situation Jr wiped his brown stains from it.
     
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  40. Boik14

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    You mean Urkel? As in Steve Urkel?

    Other then that...youre on a roll, why stop? Tell us how you really feel about Fin-o. But I actually LOL'ed at this. :wink2:
     
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