Dolphins receive worst draft grade on NFL.com

woods is better that just alright.

 

Hey, after next year it might be Harbaugh after all.

 

Yes..I believe it made a very big difference based on your analysis of James. I see us with bookend tackles..and a probowl center. I see this being a big part in Bill Lazors offense..and its the sum of it all..that makes me believe we are on the correct path to the playoffs.

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I think the lack of ground game was mostly the lack of running plays. There were games were it looked like they were like, "Eh, **** the run."

I am interested to see the changes in the offense the new offensive coordinator brings. I know it isn't going to be a HUGE change like a lot of people are expecting, however I am hoping it is enough, like actually running the ball once and a while.

 

In answer to your question concerning Philbin, yes I think this will be his last year as the Dolphins HC. I just don't think he is good as an NFL HC and he seems better suited for a position like he had with the Packers.

As far as Hickey is concerned. He certainly wasn't my choice for the GM position, but I think it would be unfair for him to only get one year to try and fix the mess Ireland left him. That being stated, if Ross ends up firing Philbin and finally decides to hire someone to run the football side of the operations, I think that person should be allowed to hire and fire whoever he wants to in an attempt to turn this organization around. If he wants to keep Hickey, I will be fine with that, but if he wants to fire Hickey and hire his own GM and HC, I will be fine with that too.

The reality is that Hickey took the job knowing that he was being hired to work with Philbin. If Philbin goes after this coming season, as I suspect he will, Hickey will certainly be in a very precarious situation as the GM of the Dolphins.

 

I certainly hope Ross makes another run at Harbaugh if he becomes available after the 2014 season.

 

I also say if that does happen, I want a clean sweep. Get rid of all the front office and let them pick a coach, and then hire their own coaching staff. If they want to keep some people, have it up to them.

I have very little faith in Philbin. I see him as a pretty bad coach.

 

I think it primarily depends on Lazor. I think Philbin has shown himself to be nothing more than an administrator who delegates to his assistants. I loved Philly's offense last season. I thought it was just well thought out with brilliant spacing. The RBs had space and the throws were easy (reads and throws). And while I like Foles, IMO RT is better. If Lazor can bring enough of that O to Miami then I think there are enough pieces to make the offense dynamic. And I think that bringing in Seastrunk could could give Miami their own version of Lesean McCoy. I also think the D can be good enough if they tighten up the run game. IMO run defense is largely about discipline, but an instinctive MLB could be a boon to that D.

In the end, whether Philbin stays may have little to do with Philbin. I also think that unless there's another big embarrassment like bullygate that Ross will be inclined to keep everybody for two seasons.

 

hmm... let's see... last year we gambled and move up all flashy and went for DJ at #3. how did that work out for us? hickey had to replace 4 out of 5 positions on the OL, and we were arguably an OL from the playoffs last year. I think it took MORE stones to stand pat and take a glaring need than get flashy again.

 

So basically you think Philbin should stay after this season, even if the Dolphins don't have a winning season and again fail to make the playoffs? That would basically mean that Philbin would have a losing record after three years as the teams head coach.

I have no problem with him remaining the HC if the Dolphins have a winning season and they make the playoffs. Anything less and it would be very difficult for Ross to give fans any rationale for keeping Philbin.
I really haven't seen anything from Philbin so far as an NFL HC which leads me to believe that he is well suited for the job. Hopefully he will prove me wrong this coming season.

 

I agree. I see it as a GM who is supremely confident in his evaluation.

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I think you have to have a solid foundation first. it's pretty clear that we didn't have that from our previous GM. Hickey HAS to fix what is broken before launching into the stratosphere and RT was a must position regardless of what people think and not addressing it makes us mediocre.

 

Well unless you got a Delorean and a flux capacitor laying round the house, we pick 50 tonight. We can burn our bras later if you don't approve of Day 2, which Ruth the criteria in this thread, is likely.

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Most definitely agree with that. I've been saying Lazor had a lot to do with this pick just like Sherman had a lot to do with the last 2 drafts.

 

No playmakers this yr i think will be the rule by default. WR, RB, CB....most athletic players.....another yr. Its almost like we cannot afford playmakers because of the risk value.

 

I didn't say anything about what I wanted. I merely stated what I thought Ross would do.

 

If we didnt pick James if/when he comes through as a solid pickup then Cook would be redundant. Its de ja vue time with Tanny and Wallace from last season ala getting time in the pocket to throw the damn rock. I'd prefer a TE to be honest to a WR right now. Tanny needed a checkdown last season. he got one with Clay who was drafted in what round?...someone remind me? Hmmm..says it all. Get Tanny an elite TE. I would have traded up for Ebron but that Tackle position was always going to be #1..im expecting Guard to be the next position of need. Rightly so after last seasons cluster**** mess of a scandal. Someone should have a word in Pounceys ear too and quickly. After i read his latest tweet im beginning to wonder who is running this team and is showing some authority and respect for the team and its fanbase. Pouncey is a good player but he's beginning to come across as a legit clueless, immature ego maniac. There is no "i" in TEAM....his mum should take his social media network device off him. Last time i looked he had a respected brother in Pittsburgh. Anybody would think it was being set up for him to join his bro in Pittsburgh with the way he is behaving. Never happen of course eh! Cant believe i thought that! tut tut.

 

Just commenting on the initial topic (I refuse to read 8 pages of fighting lol). I really hate when they give these draft day grades. They are never accurate of the things to come in the future. We never know whats going to happen.. Between work ethic, abilities, injuries, coaching schemes, personal lives, etc we never really know what a player is or isn't going to become. After all they are human beings just like the rest of the world. It's a stupid idea to grade drafts this early but we do it anyway based on what that player did at the college level.
As for James....I'm not mad at all about the pick. I wanted the WR Cooks, but it didn't happen...Oh well, maybe James will be a mainstay and cornerstone at the tackle position for the next ten years. I certainly like his size (no homo), I live close to Knoxville, TN but I don't watch the Vols. However people that do watch them seem to think he is going to be a good pro...I certainly hope so, but I don't know enough about him to make a grade.
I do know first and foremost that our offensive line needs to be as good as it can possibly be and we have made strides in that department by signing Albert, and Smith and now drafting this young man James. We'll see.

 

I was thinking the same thing. After one ****ing pick the season's over..................that's some funny **** right there.

 

I don't dislike the pick. I actually think he can be decent. Just don't like picking him in the first. We could have got much more value. Then trading down? Not sure why? Then we draft a receiver who was at the bottom of several top 10 lists when there were 2 or 3 still available who were higher on the lists. But I am sure they have their reasons for their selections. Would like to hear what they are.

 

well the damn Bills jets and pats all have acquired more draft picks so I hope we draft offense with the rest of our draft picks .

i sure hope we add a really good runingback but is there one still out there ?

 

Dolphins this year basically traded 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks for 3rd,4th, and th round and drafted decent players.
This team continually comes out of the draft with 3rd and lower talent.

 

I guess Im not really following your train of thought......

 

When you're wondering why the team is 7-9 and 8-8 and cannot get into playoffs, it's because they do not draft rounds 1,2, and 3 talent. And that has been one constant over the years, and that has not changed this year either.

 

What the hell are you guys talking about? Their best two picks were Turner and Landry. 2nd and 3rd round picks.

 

Got a F for last years draft when the draft was graded higher then. Grades mean nothing.

 

Dolphins seem to be rebuilding every year.

 

How so?

 

We received flak for not taking Brady Quinn in '07. Tell me, how's his career going again?

 

They fill a hole one year, then the next year, two holes open up. Theres always holes to fill. Superior teams barely have any cracks.

 

That is not true. Seahawks won the superbowl with a lot of cracks on offensive line.

 

But they (insert circular logic based on cursory observation colored by bias passed off as fact, here)! That's why we suck!

 

I've been following this thread purely for entertainment purposes lol

 

who cares what grades we get from whom? **** that ****, these so called experts

 

Draft grades are like a-holes...everybody has one. Giving a draft a "grade" before any of the draftee's play a down in the NFL is great...for ratings and debates. Whining about not moving up or down , etc, seems to be the fad, but it's worthless.

If you want a better picture of the players your team has drafted you should watch those players. Don't just sip the kool-aid from the media or other so called experts. I'm not saying that you should ignore what they say, but at least do some research of your own.

Before the internet it was nearly impossible to do, but not so today.

James was an awesome college player. He started from day one and never missed a game. He also played in the SEC. If he can stay healthy I suspect he'll have a long, accomplished career.

Jarvis Landry...beast, football player, great hands, fearless. Watch some of this guys tape.

Billy Turner...when I watched them call this kids name I was elated. The sky is the limit for this kid. Seriously, he has the ability to be great.

Aikens, Lynch, Tripp...I haven't watched them enough to have an opinion.

 

Since op likes draft grades here's one from SB Nation, hope you like it.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dr...raft-team-needs-johnny-manziel-browns-packers

Funny how the bills who got A grades from the troll posters in here got a C+ from that site. LOL!