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The Miami Dolphins are inept collectively at Social Media

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, May 10, 2014.

  1. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Cake stuffing was over the top. The reaction "omg horrible" is not out of bounds on twitter, on any social media, from a player.
    Cake stuffing and licking during NFL draft is unacceptable and commissioner should intervene with media to keep that stuff off air.
    Otherwise, do not fine players for reactions. This fine is inhumane.
     
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  2. Finfangirl

    Finfangirl Season Ticket Holder Luxury Box

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    Apparently you don't get it.....so I'm done trying. I'd like to call you a few names, but I have common sense and good judgement, so I won't. People already have an idea about you anyway, without any words being mentioned...ignored
     
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  3. You keep using the word liberal I used left wing. I do not consider liberals to be exclusively left wing and no I would no call a liberal a fascist in most cases. The American Left wing political group has fascist traits, do you really want to dispute that? They also have some very authoritarian traits and behave like statists at times.
     
  4. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Inhumane??? Child please.
     
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  5. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    So, you believe there are left wing conservatives and right wing liberals? Name some if you do.
     
  6. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    Well-said.

    He had a middle-school reaction in an adult setting. He further compounded it by putting it on social media. Then he compounded that by spewing his ignorant drivel from the platform of the team with the most PR troubles in recent memory.

    He richly deserves what he's getting. you've gotta be tough to be dumb.
     
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  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Speaking of Sterling, while I do not approve of anything he said, not at all, the dude was in his own home and was being recorded without his knowledge. I think that when a person is in the privacy of their own home, they should be able to say whatever the hell they want, even if it's offensive or ridiculous, The difference between Sterling and Jones, is Sterling did not intend for his words to be for public consumption. Jones did.
     
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  8. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    John McCain and John Boehner to start.
     
  9. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Who said Sterling nor Jones shouldn't say what they said? They should say what they want and society can deal with them accordingly. Sterling not intending for his comments to be public doesn't really change how society feels about his views.

    The fact that Sterling was secretly recorded may very well be a violation of his privacy and he should have avenues for recourse if applicable. But being a bigot behind closed doors still makes you a bigot.

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  10. To be honest FFG I do not get it either. I get that the guy has a right to be gay, it is who he is. I get that what Jones said on twitter can be viewed as inappropriate by people who support the gay agenda. If your going to punish Jones for improper decorum I think its fair to ask why isn't Sam also being punished for his improper decorum at the draft. Why the double standard?

    The argument in this thread seems to be its not a matter of who is right or wrong but its about the NFL protecting its product and is punishing Jones so that they don't appease a segment of their market. Why isnt the same logic applied to the segment of the market that Sam offended. They are being told that if they have a problem with open displays of affection in public by gay men to not be a fan of the NFL because the NFL has no regard for their feelings. The NFL is not afraid of offending its customers as much as its afraid the PC police.

    I mean no disrespect toward you or your position I just do not understand it.
     
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  11. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Before the Senior Bowl and combine he was considered like a 3rd-4th rounder. His combine numbers were really poor, but he greatly improved them at his pro day, where some of his workout numbers were equal to or slightly better than Kony Ealy.

    Robert Quinn, the top 4-3 RDE in the league, plays Sam's best pro position, so the best he can hope for is to be a backup and special teamer. In those roles he has a chance to make it. To make the team, he needs to beat out Quinn's incumbent backup, Eugene Sims. Sims played 396 snaps last year and had a PFF overall rating of -6.8 and a pass rush rating of -10.1. I'd say the odds are better than 50/50 that Sam can beat out a mediocre backup like Sims.
     
  12. Nobody has argued that he is not a bigot. Private citicizens do not have the authority to take away his toys. They can call him names back and they can choose not to play with him but they cant take his stuff..... well now they can and you seem to be onboard with that. I hope you never say something the PC police dont like and they come take away your livelihood from you, but if they do I will fight for your rights to be a dick too.
     
  13. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If you say so. I don't see it myself. Especially Boehner. He is conservative and a total right wing piece of scum.
     
  14. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Well you and I have very very different opinions when it comes to this stuff. So I'm going to just walk away from this one to prevent this thread from being 100 pages of off topic nonsense.
     
  15. I never said left wing conservatives but maybe you can put the bluedogs into that group

    right wing libs
    Rand Paul
    ted cruiz
    alan keys
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Did I say they should not say it? WTH are you arguing about? I said while what Sterling said is reprehensible, in his own home he should be able to say whatever he likes without fear of some gold digging personal assistant secretly taping him. Of course he is a bigot, racist, etc. That's not open for dispute. He said what he said in a place where he has the right to feel secure and never intended his words to be made public. Jones has a right to express his opinion too. But when his comments reflect on his employer, it was very misguided to express them in social media, especially twitter.
     
  17. Shamboubou

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    Ted Cruz?? Right wing liberal?? I'm confused.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah
     
  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I am happy you are not in charge of anything.
     
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  20. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    There is nothing liberal about any of those three, especially Cruz and Keys. Given Paul's libertarian views, you may equate liberal and libertarian. In the political arena they are not the same thing though
     
  21. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member


    This is directly from Stephen Ross, OWNER of the Miami Dolphins, and the person who signs Don Jones' check:


    “We seek to create a curriculum which emphasizes accountability and which educates athletes on a standard code of conduct, appropriate use of language, and the elimination of disrespectful and unacceptable behavior in sports, including discrimination or harassment because of race, gender or sexual orientation. We are also exploring possible legislation and a conduct pledge that would be instituted in all organized sports throughout the country to elevate the core value of respect.

    “I have made it clear to everyone within our organization that this situation must never happen again. We are committed to address this issue forcefully and to take a leadership role in establishing a standard that will be a benchmark in all of sports.”


    This is not the PC police. This goes completely against what the owner of our team set into place as policy after the Bullying Issue.

    Don Jones is a Professional Football Player. When he speaks publicly, he represents the Miami Dolphins up until the time that he is no longer employed by the Miami Dolphins. Now, had Don Jones not been an employee of the Miami Dolphins and tweeted that, so be it. But he was fined, and placed on leave until he takes classes on how handle social media correctly.
     
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  22. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    We agree on something political?!?!?
     
  23. bigbry

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    Love is love is love. Who cares who you love, I certainly dont.

    Now IF a draft choice smeared cake on his girlfriends face on ESPN I would of considered that a waste of air time and I would of rolled my eyes wondering why they showed it. Same with Sam and his boyfriend.

    I guess I'm missing the significance of THE EVENT But make no mistake it was shown as an event.
     
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  24. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    He did none of the above. He didn't discriminate or harass anybody!! He reacted to something that was put out on public TV and is being punished for it. If he was watching hoarders and had the same reaction it wouldn't matter. I have that reaction to hoarders all the time, I don't hate or treat someone that is a hoarder any different or hate them. Its just gross and its my opinion and a social media account under my name to put my reaction to it.
     
  25. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    You don't find it disrespectful?
     
  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    You like Boehner? Tell me one thing he has ever done for the middle class and poor. He is a total and complete shill for the corporate elite.
     
  27. bigbry

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    So I'm wondering how the NFL would react if after a TD two players removed their helmets and deeply kissed each other on Monday nite.....
     
  28. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    How about Steve Ross talk to the commish to clean up overt sexual behavior from being shown on TV during draft?
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Me too. Exactly. Rolled my eyes and moved on. Young naive Mr Don Jones felt it best to express his negative reaction on social media for all the world to see. That's dumb dumb dumb.
     
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  30. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    It all depends on the category one is talking about. Economic. Social. Military. And it depends on how one defines conservative and liberal. The categories are far too generalized.

    There are, for example, many "economic conservatives" or what should be described as "classical liberals" (the term liberal was co-opted such that it has changed) - these would see the market as more efficient than government. Libertarians are mixed in here but there are two distinct aspects within this: 1) there are economic conservatives who hold that view from a "utilitarian" perspective (view that markets function - when they are really allowed to function as markets - more efficiently in the long run than government); and from a "rights" perspective (there should be no government interference from a liberty view).

    But, many economic conservatives are also social liberals - in terms of not seeking to legislate on social issues. I am in this category - a utilitarian economic conservative (or classical liberal). I don't believe in social legislation (e.g., I don't campaign for laws against gay marriage, I am opposed to discrimination against gays, nor do I campaign for laws against other sexual activities, and I am in favor - within certain limitations - of legalization of drugs; etc.). That said, I also am against Political Correctness policing in the public square. It's all to easy for those in a majority position or those who are in a "power" position from a social and media standpoint to abuse that. It's been by conservatives and liberals. Either form of power play ultimately subverts the very causes of those who use it to their advantage.

    But, categorizations are always going to be complex.
     
  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    15 yard penalty for removing your helmet on the field.
     
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  32. vt_dolfan

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    Ill be honest...If it were two hot women athletes kissing like that...Ida been like daaammnnn thats hawt

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  33. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    No I can not stand Boehner....He to me is one of the people that stands for what is wrong with politics today. He's not a true conservative, IMO he's a democrat in republican clothing. He's spineless and will do whatever it takes to stay a carreer politician.

    No more disrespectful than these guys using the N word on their twitter, cursing on twitter, disrespect to women on twitter. I mean disrespect on twitter is rampat you can't police just one or two things and call it fair. You don't care about the African Americans that are offended by someone of their race using that word?
     
  34. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well..obviously the owner of the team who put that policy in place feels different. And if Mr Jones does not wish to adhere to that policy, Im sure he can be replaced.

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  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    We have different definitions of what is a Democrat then. Because I see nothing Democratic about him. I have no use for anyone who would vote for him, and if he kicks the bucket, I'll say good riddance to bad rubbish. You can include Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan too.
     
  36. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    So your answer was, "Yes he was being disrespectful"
     
  37. bigbry

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    He was legally fined for something he legally agreed not to do.

    Unfortunately he didn't realize a couple of seemingly benign words were over the top and fine worthy. Personally I think there is legitimate room for appeal.
     
  38. Shamboubou

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    You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Also, was it then disrespectful for ESPN to air something that may have offended people that were watchings morals? You can call about anything disrespectful to at least a group of people.
     
  39. Da 'Fins

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    One can be disrespectful of others and their activities. But, expressing disapproval of or personal affront over the actions of another is not disrespectful. It's simply an expression. For some it is a moral issue. They should not mistreat that person or fail to love them but there is likely a list of "activities" for which one could eventually find every person on this board others on at least some of those activities who would find the action very distasteful and might express their views on it. Take the Incognito - Martin fiasco. Some did not have a problem with any of what went on there (given what they read of each side). Others found Incognito's actions very distasteful and repugnant. Another group found Martin's actions distasteful. Still others felt that way about both. It was all expressed as such on this board and while there was the occasional 'blow up' for the most part different individuals could express their strong disapproval of one or the other or both or none - without being trashed. There is nothing evil about disapproving of activities by others (even if some approve of them) but you should still respect the person; and you should still be respected for you view.

    Some find drug use a terrible thing. An evil. It is a crime still (except for marijuana in some states); but many do not find it repugnant or evil. Same with food. Some find eating meats to be a terrible practice and strongly disapprove of those who do - especially radical animal rights activists. While I disagree with them, I can appreciate - given their 'moral' perspective - why they disapprove and find those who eat animals engaging in a "horrible" practice and respect that. I don't think it is disrespectful if they express laments over such practices.
     
  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Did Don Jones use the F word? Why does that even matter? Does one wrong justify another?
     

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