1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

The Miami Dolphins are inept collectively at Social Media

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, May 10, 2014.

  1. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,536
    33,036
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Aaron Rodgers is dating Olivia Munn. This thread is useless.
     
    daphins likes this.
  2. Ronnie Bass

    Ronnie Bass Luxury Box Luxury Box

    16,376
    10,864
    113
    Dec 19, 2007
    That Olivia chick really gets around with the athletes
     
  3. FanMarino

    FanMarino Season Ticket Holder

    2,906
    718
    0
    Nov 24, 2007
    Going from Dolphin players respecting the code to 700+ posts going every which way....mods???
     
  4. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    There are similar survival mechanisms in other animals. Bears for example. When their range has reached maximum carrying capacity the number of sows getting pregnant and giving birth declines. The sows may go 3-4 years between cubs. When their numbers decline sufficiently, the sows will give birth annually and have more sets of twins. This was proven in studies on Kodiak Island. As for cougars that does not appear to be the case. I got into an argument with some anti hunting arsehole on FB about it one time. Here in Oregon, since they banned using dogs to hunt the big cats, their population has grown to where they are past the optimum carrying capacity for their range. Cougars are hard to kill without dogs to track them, and now they sell a far greater number of tags though the success rate is nowhere as high. Mostly deer or elk hunters who happen to see a cougar by happenstance. When there were far fewer tags given out and hunting with dogs was legal, the pct of kills relative to number of tags sold was far higher. Cougars are now more commonly spotted in populated areas due to their greater numbers, no natural mechanism such as bears have to not overpopulate their range, and encounters between humans and cougars are much more frequent. In the days of using dogs to track them, cougar sightings near most towns and cities were rare.

    As for your theory, homosexuality has existed as far as we know, even when the earth was sparsely populated. I don't know that there is any proof it is more common now. It's just that fewer people feel the need to be secretive about it.
     
    shula_guy likes this.
  5. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

    20,810
    8,965
    0
    Jan 7, 2008
    Hollywood, Florida
    Wait he was an ******* BECAUSE he was anti-hunting or he was just generally an *******?
     
  6. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He was an arsehole because he was spreading misinformation to attack legal hunting. He said cougars have that same mechanism as bears and there is no need to hunt them as they won't outgrow their range even if we humans never killed any of them. That's utter bullcrap.
     
  7. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

    4,022
    1,879
    113
    Sep 6, 2010
    New Milford, CT


    Did it help answer his question? I don't think it did. I'm not upset, just making an observation. I have no issues with you, Mr. Clean :)
     
  8. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It seems to me most of the anti-gay diatribe is rationalized by those who spew it by including a "because the bible says so" addendum.

    I have no issues with you either. You're the only logical and knowledgeable Jets fan that I know. :)
     
    BicketyBam likes this.
  9. Its just a working theory of mine. I have no data or science beyond the antidotal examples of nature controlling its populations. I do not know if my theory is true or not and honestly I do not really care either, other than to satisfy my intellectual curiosity. I could honestly careless if its genetic or its a choice, either way it changes nothing about if they have the right to live a peaceful life as they see fit. Live and let live is my motto.

    I also understand that there is records of homosexual behavior by humans that date way back on our time line. I have the same question as you about if there is a larger percentage of gays now or if its just more open so it seems like it. It would not surprise me that there is a constant percentage of the population that is gay and it dates back to the very begining. Again that changes nothing for me.

    Honestly I just threw the idea out there to give you guys an alternate thought on it.
     
    MrClean likes this.
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,536
    33,036
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Greek culture was mostly gay. At least the Spartans and the Athenians.
     
  11. Im surprised you did not mention Alexander the great
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,536
    33,036
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    I don't know if that is confirmed. I do know Spartans had a lot of gay sex and Athenians didn't think real love could exist between a man and a woman.
     
  13. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

    4,022
    1,879
    113
    Sep 6, 2010
    New Milford, CT


    Thanks! To me it all begins and ends with "this is the way we were born." I'm Catholic but I can't believe that God would make people a certain way and then condemn them. I'm also a ****ty Catholic, lol :D
     
  14. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    10,272
    7,928
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Coconut Grove
    The Thebans. The Sacred Band. Composed of 150 gay couples. They fought for each other. Some of the most feared elite troops in ancient history.
     
  15. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    This argument can remain secular because you don't have to be religious to find something not completely right about homosexuality. The bible doesn't say that much on the subject. People like to accuse people of being radical Christians if they don't completely agree with it. Also, the shrimp and pork thing are about cleanliness, which is a good thing IMO. Some religions have vegan diets and they're healthier than ever.

    I don't know if it's a choice, or whether a baby is born with a sexual preference. I can definitely understand some nurture influence or environmental influences. Or, maybe it is in ones DNA. That's why I asked for some kind of proof. I believe I chose to be straight, due to my upbringing, and through a process it became normal. I remember thinking girls were gross and had cooties at one point.

    The difference is that one can sustain life, and one would result in human extinction if everyone were the same way. I couldnt care less about society saying it's wrong. And I don't think it's necessarily wrong either, I just keep an open mind to both sides of the argument.
     
  16. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

    27,364
    31,261
    113
    Apr 6, 2008
    There's always a pendulum swing. Outside of a Disney movie it's unrealistic to expect that past behavior is forgotten. The best you can hope for is that the swing is shorter. In this case it is far, far shorter.
     
  17. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

    27,364
    31,261
    113
    Apr 6, 2008
    All the scientific evidence I've seen or read about suggests little or no support for such a belief. I know that I personally remember being attracted to women early and never being attracted to men. In no way do I believe that I ever made or had a choice.
     
    MrClean likes this.
  18. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Is she better than Olivia Wilde?
     
  19. daphins

    daphins A-Style

    5,450
    2,632
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    I'll agree with that, but I disagree with the Disney comment. Certainly there will always be people stirring the pot in both sides, but that doesn't mean we as the masses should accept poor behavior.

    It's easy to get caught up in the personalized reaction to those who have wronged us, but we as a society should be develop beyond that. A person who advocates for the silencing if religious beliefs is no better than someone who advocates for silencing the gay community. Neither should be tolerated, and we as a whole should call out both sides when they overstep and tear down their rationalization.
     
  20. daphins

    daphins A-Style

    5,450
    2,632
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    Yes, and it's not even close.
     
  21. You should be shot for saying that.

    Wilde is every bit as hot as munn
     
  22. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    All the evidence I've seen suggests environmental factors influences sexual preference. I remember starting to like girls around the second grade. But, what about two straight guys experimenting with homosexuality, does that make them born gay? And what if they decide that they enjoyed being gay more? We're they born gay?
     

  23. I think its possible that its a learned behavior
     
  24. If it is a choice does that give you a different opinion on gay rights than if its not?
     
  25. daphins

    daphins A-Style

    5,450
    2,632
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    From the forehead down maybe.....if you can see that far.....


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The point about shrimp, or shellfish, was that nowadays along with all other Leviticus laws, are ignored, except the man shall not lie with man one.
    If being straight or gay was about upbringing rather than how one is wired from birth how do you explain siblings being raised in the exact same environment, and one is straight and one is gay?
     
  27. daphins

    daphins A-Style

    5,450
    2,632
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    Ok, gasps out of the way, but in all seriousness I always though Olivia Wilde was hot until I found out that she married an Italian a Prince at the age of 18 at burning man.

    She sets off my crazy meter.


    Munn though...she's a dork and still got where she is today.

    A-number 1




    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  28. Show me a woman who isnt crazy
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    God, if there is a god, does not condemn gays. The Christian bible, along with all other religious texts, are examples of man's interpretation of god. Man made religions are just a tool for the rich and powerful to control the masses. Man created god in his own image. There may or may not be a god who created everything in the universe since forever. However, neither side, the atheists or the theist can prove their beliefs are true. God, if he, she or it is real, is nothing like described in any holy texts written by man, IMO.

    “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
     
  30. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    I'm not anti or pro gay. I'm not voting for or against it. But if there was something proving that it's in ones DNA then I would feel the inequality unjustified and would probably vote in favor.
     
  31. Nobody is raised in the exact same environment and no two people are exactly the same
     

  32. The is no proof either way. Im trying to understand why it matters for you. Im not attacking just curious why you think if its a choice people should stop others from choosing to be gay. Being gay isnt hurting anyone
     
  33. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013

    Well no siblings are raised in the exact same environment in my experience. You have different friends, different interests in music, entertainment, etc, and probably don't spend too much actual time at home. A lot of the environmental factors that I think May be able to influence sexual preference would be experienced outside of home.
     
  34. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Siblings growing up in the same household, with the same set of parents, within a year or two of one another in age, are indeed growing up in the same environment.
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    So, if one person in a group of friends turns out to be gay, why didn't all the others in the same group of friends also turn out to be gay?
     
  36. Similar yes but not the same. Also even if they were identical twins and they had the exact same experiences they would each perceive them at least slightly different.

    I have twin cousins and they are two very different personalities
     
  37. If your in z dark room and someone is rubbing on you and it feels good if the lights come on a nd its another guy we are programmed to be repulsed. Before you knew it was a guy it felt good. You tell me is that a learned behavior or is that genetic. I honestly cant say
     
  38. Thats a unfair question.

    Why cant you tell me who is gay at birth?
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,536
    33,036
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    I am listening to a reading of the Old Testament. It seems to me that God is more worried about goats being boiled in their mother's milk than gay people.
     
  40. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    It doesn't really matter to me. As I've said I'm not anti gay, I have had gay friends, and I live in a city with a high gay population so it's not a culture shock to me. I don't care if someone is gay or not. I'm not radically religious. I'm an agnostic theist. I don't have some strong faith, I choose to believe in a higher being, lol. I just don't care enough either way, and think its overblown from both sides. I think Michael Sam is loving the attention and is probably going to have a long reality tv career if this football thing doesn't work out.
     

Share This Page