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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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  2. Ray Finkle

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    I can't take credit for it since this idea has been floating around the internet for a few days but an idea for what Bryan should do with the titles is simply to have someone like Dolph Ziggler defend the title for Bryan as a "substitute champion" while he's out. You have Dolph defend the title against Kane and others and have him keep winning, once Bryan comes back he asks for his title back but Dolph refuses and turns heel on him and now you have Bryan's next major feud. That way you give the fans someone they like in Ziggler defending the title for Bryan and it will also help get Dolph his much needed heat back. Of course the name that could really blow the roof off the place would be for CM Punk to be Bryan's replacement.

    Anyway it's just something fun to think about, unfortunately it won't ever happen especially not with Ziggler.
     
  3. SICK

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    That would be sweet. I for one like the two money in the bank matches. One for the title, and one for the right to cash in the for the title at a later time. I think it'd be sweet to have two briefcases hanging up, and no one knows which is which.
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    Interesting idea.

    I've also heard an idea of having a MiTB match for the title, with both titles hung with two different wrestlers pulling a title off the hook at the same time and the world title no longer being unified. I personally hate that they made a "big" deal about unifying them in the first place and only 6 months later its over. On second thought that's such a WWE thing to do, it will probably happen with Cena having one of the titles and Orton with the other because when times are tough give it to the same two guys again.
     
  5. Ray Finkle

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    Some WWE news:

    MiTB match itself hasn't been decided on but Cesaro is the front runner to win the briefcase.

    Last Monday's RAW was the lowest rating in 2014.

    WWE is going to repackage Tyson Kidd by putting a mask on him. The WWE feels like he's a talented worker but has been marginalized for so long as Tyson Kidd that there's nothing they can do unless they change him up. Here's a thought, maybe it's not such a good idea to have talented workers continue to job all the time or keep them off TV or treat them like they're not good enough. But that's just my thoughts. Hey when is The Miz coming back? Can't wait for that next Sheamus match! Hey let's see Great Khali or Santino wrestle again.
     
  6. SICK

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    Bring back the miz in a mask too!!!!
     
  7. Ray Finkle

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    With Flair as his manager and have him form a stable with Sheamus, Kane, Khali, Santino, Big Show and Jack Swagger. Have the stable be called "Ray Finkle's Nightmare".
     
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  8. Ray Finkle

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    The NXT Takeover was pretty damn good last night. The Charlotte/Nattie match was easily the best Diva match I've seen in awhile, light years better than any WWE Diva match since Trish Stratus was around. The Breeze/Zayn and Kidd/Neville matches were damn good too. Seriously is there any doubt that this "PPV" will be better than Payback this weekend?
     
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  9. Silverphin

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    Why you hatin' on Santino?
     
  10. SICK

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    Dude that **** rocked. It's pretty bad when the "minor league" show 3 days before your main show ppv steals the spotlight. Jesus that was fun to watch. And man is Adam Rose over in a smaller environment. Yelling before moves, celebrating after hitting moves....thats the stuff I like to see.
     
  11. Ray Finkle

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    I've never found him entertaining or funny nor do I think he's any good in the ring. Plus I hold unfairly bad feelings towards him because when the WWE decided to job Zack Ryder out of the spotlight Santino got "his" US title and held it for awhile for no reason what so ever. Yet the guy was 2nd to last in the ring at a Royal Rumble the year Del Rio won and continues to get valueble TV time and mini pushes for whatever reason.
     
  12. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah I love NXT and think this is a fantastic idea for the WWE to be doing these small "minor league" shows.

    Charlotte and Zayn are absolutely going to be stars and if the WWE uses them right Neville and Breeze could be too. As much as we rag on the main roster, the future really looks bright between these talents when added with The Shield, Wyatts, Paige and Bryan.
     
  13. SICK

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    The future is really bright, as long as they don't **** up. Gotta add Cesaro/Swagger/Ziggler (if they use him), Ryback, Cody Rhodes and Sandow to that list too. Young talent with tons of potential.
     
  14. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah I forgot about Cesaro but I don't really think any of those other guys you mentioned, except maybe Cody, have a "real" future with the company to be big time players. I think Swagger, Ryback, Sandow and sadly Ziggler are what they are now. With all the new talent mixed with the older guard its going to be hard for them to break out.

    I actually think once Triple H takes over for good the company will be in good hands as far as the in ring product goes.
     
  15. SICK

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    Never say never. Everyone remembers "Stunning" Steve Austin, Rocky Maivia, Hunter Hearst Helmsley and Dr Issac Yankem.

    They may not look the part now, but with one lucky moment (king of the ring 97) or one character change (fake diesel/kane)....you can have a star and not even know it
     
  16. Ray Finkle

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    Very true about Austin and Kane but The Rock and Triple H were going to be pushed since the day they enter the WWF, now they might not have gotten over with the Rocky Maivia and Hunter Hearst Helmsley gimmicks but they were at least going to get pushed until they failed. Guys like Ziggler, Sandow and even Swagger were never really given that chance.

    The main thing guys like Kane, Austin, Rock and HHH had in common was they had talent and a good look.
     
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  17. Section126

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    That NXT show was great, and the Charlotte / Natty match was awesome.

    Neville is great, I wonder what they will do with him, since he has no power moves and will be bad vs. Big guys (he was awful vs. Brodus Clay).

    The Ascension sucks. Keep beating everybody in 5 minutes guys..cardio is a *****,,I know.
     
  18. Ray Finkle

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    He just needs to learn to work against bigger guys. Mysterio, Guerrero for example didn't have power moves either and could work with bigger guys.
     
  19. Ray Finkle

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    I admit, I wasn't really looking forward to Payback but everyone really gave it their all and the PPV wasn't half bad by any means and all the matches were solid. I'm shocked that The Shield had a clean sweep but it was the right thing to do to make them all look strong and like main event players.

    Stephanie also killed it on the mike last night, especially with her CM Punk comments. Seriously people need to get over it already, he's not coming back anytime soon and why would you chant his name to begin with with Daniel Bryan in the ring?

    Also word is Triple H called a meeting on Monday with creative and wants the whole show from top to bottom to flow better and really focus on the mid card to give those feuds more angles and story lines.
     
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  20. Ray Finkle

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    The original plan for Summer Slam was to have Brock Lesnar win the WWE title from Bryan and then have Cesaro cash in the MiTB and beat him for the title but those plans have been scrapped.

    I'm pretty happy that's not going to happen, not only because it would completely waste Lesnar's win against the Undertaker and also title win but the WWE needs to stop having the MiTB winner cash it in at the end of SS as it would have happened in 3 of the last 4 SS. The WWE needs to build Lesnar up as the unstoppable monster so when he does finally lose it will mean something.
     
  21. ether79

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    So when Lesnar wins the title I assume he'd have to have regular bookings on Raw? Or is there some recent precedent of a champ only being booked on PPVs? Of course when I was a young kid that was when youd see champs defend... all the titles sure ssemed to mean a lot more
     
  22. Ray Finkle

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    Lesnar has an extremely limited booking schedule, I believe he only has to work 2 or 3 PPVs a year and like 8 TV events, so even IF he ever won the WWE title I highly doubt he'd show up for every PPV and there's no way he'd be at every RAW. So most likely if Lesnar does win the WWE title it would be at the Rumble. I don't see Lesnar reworking his contract just to be the champion since he hates traveling to begin with and makes plenty of money sitting at home all year.
     
  23. Ray Finkle

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    Such a dumb and pointless turn with Rollins. The WWE has a white hot baby face group that the fans view on the main event level and you break them up for what? The turn makes absolutely zero sense. Plus I think they picked the wrong guy to turn heel anyway as Ambrose is a natural heel and Rollins' highspots will continue to pop the crowd.

    Also maybe Ziggler should just quit at this point. I mean jobbing to Del Rio in a MiTB qualifier when I totally forgot Del Rio was even still with the company, yeah he's deep in the dog house. He's basically the white Kofi Kingston now.
     
  24. SICK

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    In kayfabe, Ambrose couldn't be trusted by Triple H. Rollins (in kayfabe) makes the most sense. It seems he's getting a mega push, hopefully will be in MiTb with the other shield guys, and will hopefully win and set up an awesome Bryan/Rollins title match.

    I, for one, loved the turn. It made me legit scream "noooooo" and cringe watching HHH put his arm around him. Ambrose sold it like a ****ing badass too. He looked like he just watched a murder. Then he friggin took the chair shots like a boss on his back getting hit in the arms and ****.

    We wanted better flow. Better writing. Better TV. We got it last night. Hopefully they don't **** it up.

    As for Ziggler.....I'd pull a Bluetista if I were him and say "peace out".....they are doing him dirty.

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  25. SICK

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    BTW, for those "wrestling is fake" people....this is Roman Reigns back after Payback and Raw......

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  26. SICK

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    Dean Ambrose literally right after Rollins hit Reigns with a chair:

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  27. SICK

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    "Hey Ray Finkle.........I won...."

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  28. Ray Finkle

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    I hated the turn because I think the WWE could still do so much more with The Shield as they have been putting on incredible matches, the fans are completely behind all 3 guys and they are super over. I could understand if their act started to get stale but it's been the best thing in the WWE since WM. It's disappointing because I really enjoyed the team a lot and hope they have actual plans for all 3 guys and this doesn't turn out to be a mistake even 3 months down the line. I'd assume this will lead to a Orton/Rollins and maybe Triple H vs. Ambrose & Reigns match at MiTB or the PPV before Summer Slam leading to an Ambrose vs. Rollins and Reigns vs. Triple H at that event.

    In kayfabe terms I still don't understand how the turn makes sense for Rollins. I get why Triple H would want to break the team up but why would Rollins switch sides when there has been no internal beefs going on since Feb and the team is coming off two back to back dominate PPV wins.

    Apparently the WWE is upset because Ziggler doesn't listen to them. They tell him to tone it down and not go all out every match due to his numerous concussions and the guy still bumps around like a mad man and Ziggler likes to talk a lot on Twitter and blast the WWE product which that's never good for business. He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut if he wants to get back on the good graces of the WWE.

    And SICK did you get DDP Yoga yet? If yes, how do you like it?
     
  29. dolphinkev

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    HHH says there is a Plan B with sledgehammer in Hand and than the Camera Man goes and show Rollins with a Chair in his hand or a Neon Sign saying he turning. Damn and then the Beatdown takes forever and I'm actually Yawning while I'm watching it. I think HHH watches to many of the Beatdowns from 80's Like when Flair and Horseman Beatdown Dusty Rhodes Almost for a Whole Year in 85 or 86. Lol
     
  30. Ray Finkle

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    Triple H is a "student of the game". But at least with those old school beat downs there was an actual reason behind it and it was put of the storytelling process. Something that is really missing these days. Recycling old 80's storylines wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
     
  31. SICK

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    Thats the thing I like, they didn't wait until they got stale till they did a then predictable split or turn. This was not expected, and Rollins def was not expected to be the one. Everyone figured "Im too big for you two" Reigns or "Crazy Ambrose" to make the turn. Not the glue. Not the architect. I really enjoy the unexpected gut punch they gave me last night, it was good tv. Kayfabe hopefully they explain whats in it for Rollins by having him cut a promo talking about getting out of their spotlight, or joining the boss to get a push or something.

    As for DDP Yoga, yes we have been doing it. I am stronger, its fun, he is motivating, and its easy to push play and go. We've been inconsistent because of my nephew being born, house shopping etc. But when we do it, I sweat like a sinner in church, and it makes me feel "good" after the work out. Def worth the buy.
     
  32. MikeHoncho

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    [video=youtube;nOHJFk7w1rY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOHJFk7w1rY[/video]
     
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  33. SICK

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    Loved all the cheap heat they got last night mentioning the Heat. When Bo Dallas said the reason the Heat are in the finals, and especially Lebron James....is because they all Bo-Lievedddddd I lost it haha
     
  34. Ray Finkle

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    Can't disagree with the above paragraph. I can't remember the last time I hated a face/heel turn and they're getting people talking about it. Again I won't care if they don't waste any opportunities pushing the 3 guys. I just don't want them getting lost.

    Good to hear about the DDP Yoga, what package did you get? I've never done any form of yoga before in my life except Wii Fit yoga, which doesn't really count. My wife wants to start doing yoga to help strengthen her bad back and I've heard good things with it so I kind of want to give it a try. I'm pretty fit for the most part but could definitely lose a few pounds and shrink the love handles a bit.
     
  35. SICK

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    Dude get it. They have full on and modified versions of every workout, so you can go at your pace. I got the max pack, with Chris Jerichos discount. It was the price of one month membership to the "Y" for my wife and I, so it was def worth the price. I am dripping sweat every time I do it. I never did yoga before this either, and it's fun to see how much more flexible my hamstrings and back are now. Even just after a couple weeks of doing it.
     
  36. Ray Finkle

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    Nice, thanks for the info. I'll order it this weekend perhaps.
     
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    I think it time for Fantasy Booking, HHH says he won't give up but Batista does. so backed into a corner HHH decides maybe he can pull someone over to his side but has to decide which one. But the Shield being one step ahead has a meeting too and they decide if contacted by HHH they would go along with his plan but make him give the hard sell like you want the fancy suits to learn the behind the scenes stuff and how to make some money. HHH says he can provide all of that so the deal go down. So here is where we get the Double Turn. Rollins turn on his Buddies learns a lot about inner working of the WWE teams up with Orton against the Shield while the whole time getting this inside information for the Shield to use at a Later Date. Finally the time comes where Rollins get hold of Papers that he can use to take HHH position as COO. which when executed will give the Shield control of the WWE. Later on a Raw HHH gets what's coming to him when it finally revealed that he has been outsmarted all along and they have taken his job,power and his Live-li-hood. Your Fired. Next week Vince comes back and says he has to fix the mess that Paul made, when his head got to big and makes an offer to get his company back. The Shield says they are open to selling if the Contract stimpulates that HHH can never come back to the WWE. Pure Fantasy and if you can add or subtract to make it more interesting go for it. I love wrestling but sometime go over board on Booking. Lol
     
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  38. SICK

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    Enjoy man. Keep in touch with me via pm your progress, I will too.
     
  39. Ray Finkle

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    Will do my friend. Thanks again.
     
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  40. Ray Finkle

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    Right now it doesn't look like Bryan will be able to wrestle at MiTB so if he can't obviously the winner of the MiTB match will be WWE champ.
     

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