As tired as I am of hearing about last season's bullying scandal I am, with each passing day, more and more surprised, and more and more disgusted, that the NFL haven't declared whether Pouncey will be suspended or what other form of punishment he will suffer if anything. We're talking about not letting an entire team know whether they will have their starting centre or not. I would have thought they would announce it prior to the draft, or shortly after, so that the front office can adjust accordingly if needed. Right now I can't imagine what could possibly be holding them up. Get it sorted already! The team need to know where they stand (if not to be fair to Pouncey himself). Beginning to look quite unprofessional of the league.
Didn't they already announce he has to undergo a mental evaluation? Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Suspended for what? He didn't make that chick Martin leave the team. I don't think hats or jerseys people have hanging on their walls are suspension worthy either.
That's been one potential fate which has been hanging over his head, and over the team. Point is - where's the announcement? How do they justify not telling a team whether they will have the use of their starting centre while they are currently preparing for the upcoming season and heading ever close to that date? " if the league determines that either Jerry or Pouncey lied to Ted Wells during his investigation into the Dolphins’ workplace environment, they will most likely be in line for some sort of punishment.When asked Wednesday whether the NFL would take into account the players’ truthfulness when deciding on a suspension, new NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent replied: “Yes, you have to.” Vincent, the former Dolphins cornerback, added: “You have to consider everything — the players, information, report. We’re making changes. We’re adjusting as information continues to come in.” This is significant because on several occasions, Wells wrote that he didn’t find Pouncey’s account of events credible. And in one example — whether Pouncey directed insults toward Jonathan Martin’s sister — there was text-message evidence as proof. Commissioner Roger Goodell on Wednesday again declined to speculate about possible suspensions for Pouncey, Jerry (now a member of the Giants) and Richie Incognito. All three must go through mental evaluations before returning to the playing field. “That’s a medical decision,” Goodell said at the NFL annual meeting’s closing news conference. “I’m not a medical professional. I’m not the one that that would dictate that. “Those are done by … our joint medical professionals between the players association and NFL. From our standpoint, the medical evaluation is going to determine what happens.”" Taken from this Miami Herald article by Beasley. It suggests that the 'medical' evaluation is the primary key here. Other articles and this press conference with Goodell seem to back that up. So perhaps that's the answer to my own question - they're waiting on the eval. However, Salguero suggested something to the extent that the legally the league doesn't have recourse to force someone to undergo mental evaluation. If that's the case that might explain the silence so far, in that they league wants to force the eval and won't declare anything until then, but isn't sure how to get it done yet. ?? Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/03/27/4020229/miami-dolphins-wait-as-possible.html#storylink=cpy Here are Salguero's tweets on the subject: "Mike Pouncey said Tuesday he doesn't believe he needs a "medical" (read psychological) exam from the NFL. And I agree with him." "No one has mentioned a "medical" exam for Ray Rice but Mike Pouncey needs one?" "Is Aldon Smith required to undergo a "medical" exam by the NFL?" "This --> RT @HowardShatsky: @ArmandoSalguero I think it is a dangerous precedent for the NFL to involve itself in a player's mental health." "By the way, where are the NFL rules outlining when players must be subjected (against their will) to "medical" exams by a psychologist?" "Now, would it be wise for Mike Pouncey to understand past mistakes and work toward not making those again? Yes."
Worst case scenario I think is, he does his mental eval and has to take some sensitivity training coarse.
Am I missing something? Why would we want to see one of our best players suspended? Why even talk about it?
They already made the announcement? Pouncey can't play until he undergoes a psychological evaluation and is cleared by a physician. None of those are analogous with what has happened with Pouncey. He was accused of harassment in the workplace. The league has a legal obligation to prevent Pouncey from doing what he did again. The league has no legal responsibility to prevent Aldon Smith or Ray Rice from doing what they did. They didn't do anything to anyone in the workplace, nor affecting other NFL players. The league's only consideration is the public perception here.
Ross bent over backwards to appease Goodell. No way the commish repays him by suspending his star center.
Requiring an employee to undergo a psychological evaluation before returning to work seems like an odd response to workplace harassment. What type of conclusion by the Psychologist would preclude him from returning to work? He suffers from an overly aggressive personality? Isn't that an asset for an NFL player? Seems to me they created this stipulation just to say they did something. I'm surprised they didn't send him for sensitivity training which would have been a more typical response for an employer.
He has to pass an evaluation from a sports psychiatrist before Goodell OK's him to return to the field. In my opinion, there's a good chance he doesn't pass, the guy is mental.
Pouncey will not be getting suspended. At this point I don't see how they even could suspend him without the NFLPA being a little pissed off about it. The wells report has come and gone. We let go of the coach involved. The two main players involved are gone. He's already being forced to do the psych eval. Now...that gun thing...that could be a problem
being very dumb isn't a mental illness. I bet the eval comes back "he 100% truly did not know what he was doing was wrong. In fact, I'm not entirely sure how he even ties his shoes in the morning. This man is an absolute moron to the highest degree....But he's mentally stable..." ***Fast forward 8 months*** Mike Pouncey voted into his second pro bowl
An evaluation is a pretty standard response. The psychologist will determine whether he actually understands what is right or wrong. Then the psychologist will likely recommend the best course of action, which probably will include sensitivity training.
All of which should have been decided and done by now. Although I haven't heard anything that has definitely said by what date Pouncey has to have this done, or indeed that it is a definite requirement. So far it has seemed that the NFL are saying this is what they would like.
Ok this gave me a Maurkice Pouncey says brother Mike is being tortured. If only Mike had a veteran mentor in the locker room to help him deal with that pressure, you know, the kind of guy you could trust and who wouldn’t use your weaknesses against you. The kind of guy who could offer support in a time of need, and not single you out for more ridicule because of that stress. That would be nice. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-pouncey-says-brother-mike-is-being-tortured/
Now we know they're both idiots. I feel better, as if the team didn't somehow just end up with the wrong Pouncey.
When people are not free to be cruel and stupid without suffering consequences, we all suffer. Or something. I'm sure one of the many victims in our midst will fill us in on how this works.
