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Tannehill tops CNNSI's - All emerge team for 2014 season

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  1. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/13/2014-all-emerge-team-offense/

    By Andy Benoit


    Old article, but it'll be interesting to see if it holds true.
     
  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    " moving pocket???huh??"

    Mike Sherman quote.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hell Deej, any semblance of a running game will help THill out tremendously.

    Granted the "modern' NFL basically uses the pass to set up the run, but out rb's were getting blown up in the backfield constantly
     
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  4. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Here's something else that will make you happy... Tannehill rolling out and throwing a 25+ yard strike down field while on the run and showing off his noticeably more muscular arms and calves. It's about 30 secs into the video while he's being chased by a fat Earl Mitchell, wearing #90.

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/multim...A-Action/71d3b259-c8c7-4c9f-a10c-18c8116c9174

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Interesting that Shelley Smith was also on the list.
     
  6. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Hello 4 new OLine starter's and Knowshon Moreno.
     
  7. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Indeed. Thought it was an oddity myself.
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    All the more reason to NOT keep his *** stationary Pod.
     
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  9. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I guess I can see it, though based on the others on the list he seems to be the one with the least credentials. And, I'm not too worried about Earl Mitchell. If anything, I think he could stand to add some weight and play around 310lbs; turn him into a poor man's Brandon Mebane and I'd be stoked.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Jesus that throw was ridiculous, the dexterity he has going to his left side for a righty is very very good..

    This is exactly why I'm beating this drum so hard on Sherman, I always add how he can go to both sides lethally so that must be taken into account when formulating the gameplan, meaning, I can understand if you have a Qb that can only go to his throwing side once or twice a game, but when you have a Qb who lethal at both sides than do the math Sherman..
     
  11. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    While I like Moreno as a RB and Albert at LT, the rest of the new offensive linemen added in the draft and in free agency are still huge question marks, IMO.

    I remember going into last season, most people on here were only concerned about the RG position. They felt that Martin would be able to fill in for Long, Incognito would continue to play well at the LG position and Clabo would be a solid RT. Well, we all know how the OT ended up playing last year.

    Hopefully the OL will be better this coming season, but until they line up and prove it in the regular season. The OL is still a major area of concern for this team.
     
  12. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yeah well, what we had there starting last year, Clabo, Jerry and Martin were freakin garbage, these players are upgrades in talent so anyone can say well they haven't played a snap so we don't know, BS, we know because we know how freakin bad they were last year.
     
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  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He really has an uncanny ability to square from the torso up going to his left, look at that pic hard, then play the video, if you can't scheme that specific talent into your gameplan then you should be fired....oh yeah, he was..lol
     
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  14. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    A concern yes, but also a future... Albert and Pouncey are known, proven commodities. I expect we'll see Dallas Thomas as the starting LG and Smith the RG, with James at RT. Moreno will be the much improved blocking back over Miller and Thomas.

    The forgotten element though is the improved OLine coaches of John Benton and Jack Bicknell Jr. Turner never developed nor fielded an improved line. If they play up even an NFL average line, they have a future with us, to where the past few lines had no future nor upside. We also have Billy Turner and Same Brenner developing. I expect us to field the best Oline we've had since the 2008 season.
     
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  15. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I never stated that this group can't be an upgrade. All I stated was that many people on this forum last year thought the OL would be fine going into last season. If you want to argue that this group is going to be better, that certainly is your right. I simply want to see it on the field before I believe it.
     
  16. djphinfan

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    And I'm saying that it's a bet that they are better considering how putrid they were last year, it's not like I'm going out on a limb.
     
  17. jw3102

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    I agree they should be better, but I guess I have always been the type of person where you have to prove things to me. So once I see it on the field, that is when I will be able to make a valid decision if this group will be an upgrade or not.

    I just worry if the rookie offensive linemen can come in and be effective in their rookie season. I'm also not high on Dallas Thomas, and Smith may or may not be the answer at RG. The backups are all mediocre to below average. Hopefully the OL will jell and they will turn out to be a much better unit than I anticipate.

    Last years OL was awful, but for the Dolphins to have a winning season and make it to the playoffs this year, the OL needs to step up and improve drastically over last year. Perhaps this will happen and I do think the OL coach this year and far better than Turner. I would like nothing better than to come on here during the season and heap praise on the play of the offensive line. At this point though, I'm just not ready to jump on the new and improved offensive line's bandwagon.
     
  18. RoninFin4

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    I think jw does raise a good point about Miami's backups on the OL. You're probably going to have one or the other between Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner as a backup - 0 games of NFL experience. I'd imagine Jason Fox is a backup, and while solid, he's been injury prone. Sam Brenner and Nate Garner have played and have started at times, but I think you could stand to upgrade on both of those guys as well; Garner especially.
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I was one of the few who hadn't given up on Thomas and was perplexed at his performance last year compared to what I thought and projected him as a pro, which was solid, it now looks as though the injury and surgery he had last offseason just wasn't condusive to letting his talent flourish, it also now looks like he is on everyone's list as most improved, the even better news for me is I had billy turner rated a bit higher than Thomas, we'll see how that plays out, win win for me.

    I know Albert is a huge upgrade, I'm comfortable saying Dallas will be an upgrade, I also was one who was very very against signing Clabo, he did nothing but prove me right all. Season, he was garbage, so I feel comfortable that the more talented player, James, will at least be an upgrade in talent..that's the thing, there will be mistakes but I'm positive the talent has been upgraded across the board..to just say well we don't know what we have because 4/5ths are new, doesn't do anything from an analysis POV.
     
  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lets say Thomas and Smith wins the job, I think garner, fox, turner, and Brenner is better depth.
     
  21. Fin D

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    A solid line can handle a backup in the lineup. The problem for us last year is that outside of Pouncey we either had backups or worse across the whole line. Even if this line is average, we'll be a vastly improved team.
     
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    Garner is so versatile, not a great athlete but when a guy can play 4-5 OL positions at least competently then you have to find ways to keep him on the roster.
     
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    Marquess Wilson is also listed. I remember CK talking this guy up last year. How talented he was and how badly he was railroaded by Mike Leach. I was hoping he might be a late round pickup considering the Dolphins ignored WR in the early part of the draft. If he emerges, the bears have a shot at being insane on offense... Marshall, Jeffries, and Wilson could be a dominating trio. All three are 6'4" ish. Crazy. Even Jay Cutler should be able to be successful in that offense.

    As for Tannehill, he should be on the list. I think he's the type of QB that's good for 25-30 TD's and 4,000 yards annually. Good enough to make Miami a consistent contender. The biggest question with Tannehill is, can he be consistent throughout the entire year without multiple chunk turnover games?
     
  24. padre31

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    I really want to see THill consistently lead the team, I think he has it in him to be the kind of qb the opponent fear giving the ball to with less then 2 minutes to go in the game.

    As much as I enjoy Bline's game, do think THill looks for him a bit too often..iirc Ck posted some egnew stuff up and he was completely open and THill did not bother to look for him he was to locked elsewhere
     
  25. jdang307

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    Newsflash, the head coach is still here ;) :D
     
  26. RoninFin4

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    I get that. I'm saying that some of the players that will be backups could/should be upgraded upon if possible. For example, if you've got to play without Branden Albert at LT for a few weeks, who is your backup? Do you flop Ja'Wuan James there and stick Fox at RT? Do you play Billy Turner there despite him working solely at G to this point? Fox? Do we really want to relive the "Nate Garner Experience" (vs. Philly in 2011) at left tackle? As good as Albert is, he's only played 16 games once in his career.

    I think Sam Brenner is versatile enough to play any of the tree interior spots, plus you'll probably have Billy Turner capable of handling either guard spot as well. I worry about having to play Fox or Garner at tackle, especially at left tackle. I think getting a better swing tackle should be a priority during roster cut downs.
     
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  27. djphinfan

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    Vet left tackle come camp cuts.
     
  28. mlb1399

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    I'm very excited to see what RTH can do this year. If he does emerge this year, it will be a fun year to be a dolphin fan and we will see our team in the playoffs.

    You have to like what we've seen and heard about the development of our offensive line. You couple that with better utilization of wallace, hopefully better chemistry and you should see more TD's.
     
  29. djphinfan

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    There is only one other team besides the Jaguars who topped the forty point less...dolphins..

    We have sucked on offense since a real Qb was running the show, Chad Pennington.
     
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    I'd rather Tanny snuck in under the radar. Not a believer in media hype. It brings pressure to perform to their expectations. I'd rather RT proved it to himself and the team instead of beat reporters and national press.
     
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    It's been longer than Pennington since we've scored 40+ points. I believe it was 2003.
     
  32. sports24/7

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    After watching Wilson at the combine I took notice. I went back and took a look at some of his film and really liked him. He's a size/speed guy who is incredibly smooth and a great natural hands catcher. That WR trio in Chicago could be fantastic.
     
  33. djphinfan

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    Coming out of college wasn't that impressed relative to what I was hearing by some folks who had him as top 5 talent, thought he would drop hard..he was a punk who had strength and balance issues, now maybe that's all changed, maybe he had an awakening..
     
  34. Unlucky 13

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    Thanksgiving Day 2003, scored 40 at Dallas. However, one TD was a return by Jason Taylor.

    Opening Day 2002, Ricky Williams first game with Miami, we scored 49, all on offense.

    Side note, 3 of the last 7 times we've scored 30+ have been against Oakland.
     
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    I don't ever remember people calling Marquess Wilson a top 5 talent coming out of college. There were people that thought he may be able to sneak into the middle rounds, but that didn't happen. I'm not really sure why you call him a punk other than the incident with Leach, but Leach seems like a world class prick, so I didn't ever completely hold that against Wilson. As far as strength and balance, you'd obviously like to see every football player have that, but I wouldn't rank either of those at the top of the list on qualities I look for in a WR.
     

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