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****The Official 2014-15 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by schmolioot, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I hope Birdman comes back, he is awesome to watch.
     
  2. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Ok. This one made me lol.
     
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  3. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Oh god, the Heat are going in reverse, instead of getting Lebron and giving away Beasley we lost Lebron and are probably keeping Beasley, good grief, my heart is too weak.
     
  4. The Rev

    The Rev Totus Tuus Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box Club Member

    Maybe you should go out for a while and get some fresh air.
     
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  5. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    One thing is certain; if Erik Spoelstra is going to transition to this brave new world, he will HAVE TO unclench the sphincter when it comes to Defense. It IS NOT the be-all and end-all of a player's value nor production.
     
  6. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    :sidelol:
     
  7. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    I'm just disappointed with Lebron jerking us around instead of being straight up with Riley so we could have made the right moves instead of being in panic mode.
     
  8. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Dwyane Wade's son is a better basketball player than Lebron Jr., just saying.
     
  9. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The Big 3 Heat under Erik Spolestra was a historically prolific offensive team.
     
  10. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's never been a max player. Hes not even close to guys like Durant and Lebron. Is he a really good player? Yeah. Max player? No way. If he's your best player you're a 6-8 seed and out in the first round.
     
  11. PhinsPhan11

    PhinsPhan11 Phins & Philly Sports

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    Isaiah Thomas apparently going to Phoenix in a S&T.
     
  12. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Phoenix going to be really nice this coming season, The 76ers will be in two years after they tank this year, three tanked draftees in a three year span, that is going to be one sexy team.
     
  13. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    The Heat had no choice, we were in desperation mode.
     
  14. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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  15. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I can't wait. Embiid was a good investment, glad they didn't overanalyze that one.
     
  16. Finfangirl

    Finfangirl Season Ticket Holder Luxury Box

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  17. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    I disagree. Bosh was a 21/10 guy playing the 4.

    Just look at the offer sheet Chandler Parsons managed on stats similar to what Bosh has put up with Miami, let alone in Toronto.
     
  18. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Give me both please lol.
     
  19. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Why? Who wouldn't understand them taking a hit for a year or two and building longterm. I think they are making panic decisions, I mean Bosh's deal is crazy.
     
  20. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Bosh staying in Miami makes us playoff contenders, all we need is some pieces and we will be okay, Bosh can be the man now.
     
  21. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    So it wasnt crazy for Houston to offer him the max but it's crazy for us? You underestimate Bosh. As a #1 option he is a 20/10 guy.
     
  22. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    I do hope it ends up being Deng.
     
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  23. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Chandler's deal was crazy too. I understand the NBA gives out ridiculous contracts but the really good teams don't do that. You think San Antonio would have even considered Parson's or Bosh's deal even if they had cap room? Nope, no way. Desperate teams make desperate deals and it almost always backfires.
     
  24. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Maybe, but has any team ever won anything with him putting up 20/10? If he's your best player you stink, thats not a max player. I like Bosh, I'm not saying he's a bum at all but if he wouldnt accept a reasonable contract I'd thank him for his time and wish him the best losing in the first round in Houston every year beside Dwight and Harden.
     
  25. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    So Melo isnt a max player either then?
     
  26. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    LeBron and Durant aren't the only max players in the league. Gordon Hayward was just given a max contract.
     
  27. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    So why did Houston offer him the max?
     
  28. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    The Heat should use their future draft pick to claim Zaire Wade when he enters the draft in 15 years.
     
  29. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    IMO no. Melo can't make a team a contender. He's not a complete player. I wouldn't give him the max. I'm crazy I guess, to me a Max player is someone that makes his team a contender, I get it that sometimes a guy is on a crappy team (Love) but in the NBA one guy can turn a franchise around. Do you see Melo turning a team around? Bosh? Nope. I'd pay Melo before Bosh though if I had a gun to my head.
     
  30. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Obviously you can't replace LeBron but we're going to come out of this about as well as we possibly could.

    Deng or Ariza are good editions. And depending how flexible Wade is we could clear more space.

    Need to be an attractive team in 2016. Plus we'll have a lot if short deals useful in trades
     
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  31. finfansince72

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    Because they can't get out of the first round with Harden and Howard. Its the only situation that I could see someone actually overpaying for him, he does actually fit in that system with Howard and Harden and they need another piece to the puzzle. He's not worth that deal but at least they are taking a shot at a title, the Heat are signing him so that they aren't a lottery team, thats not a reason to sign a max player. The Heats draft pick ironically is going to Cleveland unless they are in the lottery too....
     
  32. NaboCane

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    I just don't understand why Riley isn't pushing for Gasol. It's such a fit, and if what he wants is around $6-7M, we can certainly do that to add 17/10 and a true 5.
     
  33. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I dont follow the logic. Its not like a max contract stops you from making other moves, it isnt a big deal. As Section said even when Wade signs we will still be able to afford ANOTHER Max contract or some smaller deals like Deng.
     
  34. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Gasol wants to play for a championship team, he will go to the Spurs.
     
  35. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    If they let Bosh walk, they prbly could've gotten Pau, Monroe, Deng and Ariza.
     
  36. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Gasol didn't want to be here, even with Lebron. It isn't really a money thing from what I've heard.
     
  37. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    If they let Bosh walk, none of those players would have come here, they would have better options. Keeping Bosh, and then Wade, keeps the Contender label on the team, and makes it more attractive to pieces. Letting Bosh walk would have instantly made the Heat a rebuilding team, really without assets to rebuild. Had to be done, and the team will benefit from it.
     
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  38. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Voice of reason here. Listen to Sumlit on this one.

    Wade and Bosh is probably worth between....well it depends how everything else shakes down in the East but between a #3 and #5 seed. With pieces like Deng you're instantly still fighting for a title run.
     
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  39. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    What does this have to do with anything? There are plenty of other players in free agency or available in trade that would help the Rockets get out of the first round.

    They focused on Bosh specifically. In fact, this is the second time they've gone after him; they offered him the max in 2010, too.

    Clearly, the NBA sees something that you don't.
     
  40. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    He doesn't like black people.
     
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