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  1. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    They have some flexibilty to open cap space. They got a chance to make some moves w/ s&t
     
  2. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    Yeah, let's ignore the impact of Chalmers' 802 career turnovers in six seasons. That does wonders for Defense.
     
  3. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    That is like...2 turnovers a game :lol:

    That isn't bad at all.


    EDIT: In his career he has averaged 1.8 turnovers a game. Don't see why that is a negative.
     
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    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    You do understand that is a VERY low number of TO's for a pg in 6 years...right?
     
  5. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    chalmers is fine plus hes one of our own we shouldnt give up on him now
     
  6. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    Now that's an interesting thought. It would cut down on his turnovers and let him focus on his one occasional strength, shooting, and making it into a consistent trait.

    He's taller than Wade; but that would still make for a very short combination of SGs.
     
  7. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    The guy doesn't have a turnover problem. He's only averaged 1.8 a game in his career. That is pretty much nothing.
     
  8. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Uh..he is not taller than Wade. Unless he grew 3 inches since the Finals.
     
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  9. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Chalmers is not taller than Wade.
     
  10. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Wade shrunk two, Chalmers grew one.
     
  11. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Them bad knees, man
     
  12. MikeHoncho

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    Money.

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  13. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    So basically they are getting everyone back. They in essence have $20 mil of Lebron's money to play with. $10 mil went to Deng.
     
  14. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    A S&T for Greg Monroe would be money. Who would we give up? Maybe an offer sheet is more in order.
     
  15. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  16. NaboCane

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    That's either disingenuous as hell, or you haven't seen them side by side. It's a common joke among the writers, how Wade is listed at 6'4" but in fact is much shorter. MUCH shorter. Whereas Chalmers is all of 6'2".

    In any case; my point is, that's a SG rotation lacking in length.

    EDIT: And, between them, a liability on the floor together at hacking time with their 76.5/77.5 FT%
     
  17. rafael

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    As several have pointed out, Chalmers is not a TO prone PG. His limitation is that he's not a guy who can get his own shot and we could use another scorer with the departure of Lebron. IMO Deng can replace Lebron's D, but not his scoring. In a very crude analysis, Lebron gave you about 27 per game. Deng will replace about 15 of that and you hope that Wade and Bosh will increase their scoring as well. If Bosh goes up from 16 back to 22 or 23 and Wade moves up 3 or 4, that gets us most of the way. It would be nice to get a little more offense from somewhere so I was hoping we could have added another offensive weapon like Bledsoe or Stephenson.

    We're also losing Ray Allen and his 10 or so points off the bench, but I'm hoping Ennis is able to replace that production.
     
  18. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Wade was measured at the pre draft combine at 6'3.75 without shoes.
     
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  20. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Also adding Granger who averaged 8 PPG as well as McRoberts should easesome of the bench loss.
     
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    Yeah, Wade looks MUCH shorter than Chalmers....
     
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  22. Section126

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    RFA is a rabbit hole to nowhere. Even though Monroe is a very good player.

    You usually have to give a bad contract to take a player away in RFA.
     
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    those ar enot bad FG% and as said before..he measured 6'-3 3/4 without shoes at combine. He is well over 6'-4" on the court.
     
  24. Limbo

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    Not a fan of how Chalmers fits into this current mix on offense. He's just not a creator/penetrator off the dribble, and the Heat could really use that type of player right now...like...bad. Could really use some explosive or quick athletes, and Chalmers doesn't really add that. Wasn't someone saying earlier that they heard he was going to sign here and then get moved to Charlotte or something? I like his defense, but offensively I'm not sure his game fits the rest of the skillsets out there. He does have range, usually, which is good alongside Wade.
     
  25. JShady

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    Lance Stephenson should come to Miami and wear number 6.
     
  26. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    PG Chalmers
    SG Wade
    SF Deng
    PF Bosh
    C ???

    Bench (no order)
    Ennis
    Napier
    McRoberts
    Granger
    Birdman
    Haslem
    Cole
    Jones

    Not bad at all, I like it.
     
  27. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'd say insert Birdman into the starting Center role (as of now) with Oden as his primary backup. Plus Hamilton will make the team. For all the love Ennis gets...Hamilton is tearing it up just as much.
     
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    AP Interview: Bosh 'excited for the challenge'

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-interview-bosh-excited-challenge-193946358--nba.html

     
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  30. Sumlit

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    1- PG Chalmers
    2- SG Wade
    3- SF Deng
    4- PF Bosh
    5- C Birdman

    Bench:

    6- 2nd PG Cole
    7- 2nd SG Ennis
    8- 2nd SF Granger
    9- 2nd PF McBob
    10- 2nd C Oden

    Depth

    11- 3rd PG Napier
    12- 3rd SG ????
    13- 3rd SF ????
    14- 3rd PF Haslem
    15- 3rd C Hamilton

    Heat either need to get 2 SGs and slide Ennis to 2nd/3rd SF, or get 1 more SG and 1 more SF.

    Or get 2 more swingmen types that can man the SG and SF roles.
     
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    Birdman can't withstand the 30 MPG of a starter; his body won't hold up.

    If Oden weren't such an unknown quantity (to us), I'd say he could be the guy who gets the bigger shares of minutes. But we just don't know.

    Hamilton; I watch him and I can't describe my feeling about him except to say that he still seems awkward; like a big kid who hasn't grown into his body yet.
     
  33. JShady

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    Where would we put Lance Stephenson if he was to come aboard? No way he wants to come off the bench.
     
  34. Limbo

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    So far they've esentially replaced LeBron with Deng and are hoping for more bench production.
     
  35. NaboCane

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    That's an excellent question. I could see Wade playing the 1 while Lance plays the 2. And Lance, being younger, playing when Wade is off the floor. Getting more minutes than Wade.

    I hope we have to solve that "problem" soon.
     
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    Starting guard. He and Wade would share creating duties. Wade can run an offense, and Stephenson can too, even if he goes crazy sometimes.
     
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  37. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Oden went through all of our workouts, practices, and so forth the entire time he was here without setback. From what I've heard most are thinking he can be around a 15 MPG player. I'm actually expecting good things from him.

    I'd like us to sign Emeka but obviously my post was based on what we have at this moment. We won't play with no center on the floor.
     
  38. JShady

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    I would take a healthy Greg Oden over Lebron every day, only problem is the healthy part.
     
  39. Sumlit

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    Btw, looking at that theoretical second unit I put in the above post, that is an incredibly solid 2nd unit, assuming both Oden and Granger are healthy.

    PG Cole/Napier
    SG Ennis
    SF Grannger
    PF McBob
    C Oden.

    That is a very very solid bench rotation. Can both score and defend.
     
  40. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I posted the chronology of last Thursday night in the Club level NBA Thread.
     
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