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Dan Marino Accepts Position as Special Advisor to Steve Ross & Tom Garfinkel

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ckparrothead, Aug 23, 2014.

  1. Califin

    Califin Well-Known Member

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    Can't really say he'll be an important piece, but he will be a familiar face, having shared numerous shootouts together back in the 90's, they would, in a way be teaming up, each in a respective post-player role, each still in pursuit of a highly illusive first SB ring.
    Thing is, I'm not sure if "Special Advisor to Steve Ross" is listed anywhere in the NFL's Big Book of League Protocol, regarding which positions of official capacity are entitled to receive Superbowl Rings, if or when it might ever happen.
     
  2. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    Exactly. And our owner isn't.
     
  3. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Consigliere.

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  4. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    Fin, from what I recall, he quit the job because he realized that he would be no more than a talking head-smiley face, with Wannstedt still making the major decisions regarding the team. What evidence do you have that he realized he "was in over his head?" I recall some of the same columnists saying that, but on this board and others we, collectively, have displayed an enormous level of disdain for what the columnists have printed on the bird cage liner.
     
  5. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    That might be a case of addition as well as subtraction. My opinion of Dawn Aponte is forever tainted by what I saw of her on Hard Knocks, I can see her just rubbing interview candidates the wrong way, as I have little doubt she does with players and agents in contract negotiations. Marino will grease the wheels towards getting the hires the team wants, glad to have him aboard.
     
  6. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Sounds like a figure head to me.

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  7. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Blasphemy!
     
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  8. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    What exactly is Dan Marino selling someone on?

    I respect a lot of people here, that doesn't mean I'm going to take professional advice from them.

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  9. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I doubt Marino is going to be involved to the point where he is cursing at the coaching staff.

    It's obvious that the Miami Dolphins front office and executives are disliked by fans. Dennis Hickey is probably the least celebrated new GM I've seen in a long time. The fans just don't like these guys.

    What do you do to change that? Put the most popular Dolphin physically capable in the front office.

    What I'm interested to see is how fans react when they have Marino selling them decisions that they normally would trash Ross or Hickey for.

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  10. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Across the spectrum of what Dan's actual role could possibly be, I dont see how it can be a negative. Figure head or not, he's arguably the MOST prominent Dolphin ever. If we can't welcome him coming back into the fold with open arms and without skepticism then we are truly broken as a fanbase. The Man has returned, win lose or draw....

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  11. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    'Special Advisor' doesn't sound like he'll necessarily be interfacing with the media or selling tickets. It sounds like an internal consultant. Having him around the team and players is nothing but positive. And it adds a layer of gravitas and credibility to the organization. As was mentioned, the only reason Peyton Manning even gave us a meeting was because Marino asked him to.

    Marino is the only guy in the organization with any league pull whatsoever. Our owner's missteps are well documented and he is far from a heavyweight. Our coach and GM are lightweights. Our coordinators are maligned and/or unproven, as is our quarterback.
    There are literally no statesmen in our organization. We are perennial losers, much closer to the clown car than the glory days. And with an owner who is drawn to big names like a moth to a flame, you better believe Marino helps.

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  12. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    No..saying he was a poor analyst is your opinion..quite literally. Literally you can not quantify what a poor analyst is...you have no empirical data to back this up. Further more..its not even objective reality..as it contains feeling or biases..which objective reality cannot contain. Hate to rain on your parade bro..but its your opinion.
     
  13. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Oh..and the one person who may hate loosing more then Marino...

    John Harbaugh.

    This is a smart move by Ross. Hes with the front office for the season...if we continue to be mediocre..it doesnt look like Ross is putting together a sales pitch at last minute to go get Harbaugh. This is Ross thinking two moves ahead..finally.
     
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  14. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    He was fired from two different analysts jobs.

    i just think that fans are projecting the importance Marino plays in their lives onto people in the league.
     
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  15. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    So..being fired from an analyst job twice is quantitative data in your opinion?

    Bill Belichick was fired as a HC.

    Billy Martin was fired five times as the Yankees skipper.

    other notable people who have been fired

    Steve Jobs
    Walt Disney
    Mark Cuban..
     
  16. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    And I would argue your doing the exact opposite. Not saying your wrong bro...just saying this is all your opinion.
     
  17. the 23rd

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    Marino is no Elway. too many chefs in the kitchen... whatever, not good. if his job is to put a positive spin on the franchise, than he has to put aside his ego & step up to the plate as a laison between frontoffice & fanbase.
    if he will be a limited-advisor on NFL matters for the boss, that might work in as much as it might add prestiege & knowedgable support to the frontoffice. I would like to see him just go away & enjoy his retirement. Marino is no Elway.
     
  18. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm really distrustful of this. Dan Marino doesn't have any skill, experience, or anything to recommend him on the football side of business, and I'm not sure "training" him is an appropriate thing. Football administration is a merit-based skill every bit as important as that on the field, guys have to pay their dues and throwing the football really well isn't at all the same thing.

    Make not monuments to the living, for they might still disgrace the stone, etc. Do you wanna have to fire Dan Marino?
     
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  19. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how this can be anything but good for miami. If nothing else, he's another person Ross can run something through before doing it. Whoever he's been taking advice from in the past hasn't always worked out. Definitely won't hurt when it comes time to draft a QB or hire a head coach.
     
  20. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    You just ruined his entire argument. Well done.
     
  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Yes, this is the same thing, Dan Marino is the Steve Jobs of football analysts.

    Look, you watched him on HBO. You watched him on CBS. You tell me, besides being Dan Marino and all of our hero, what exactly did he bring to either job that 50 other former players didn't bring?

    Also for someone sooooooooooo connected, you'd think he be a walking scoop machine or have some deep insider knowledge. Nope. Section 126 is more plugged in.

    One more thing, anyone giving me grief for saying I can't possibly know, why aren't you guys saying the same thing to people proclaiming its gonna be a game changer in talks with Harbaugh or whoever. If I can't possibly know, neither can they.
     
  22. rdhstlr23

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    Love the move. Get him involved in any way. How can someone not be persuaded by Marino? One of the all-time greats.
     
  23. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Dude..Im only arguing the difference between fact and opinion..

    You said him sucking ad an analyst is fact..I say it cant be.

    In other words..Im bustin ya chops bro..its all good.

    To be honest..I liked him as an analyst..I thought his personality meshed well with the others..
     
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  24. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Forget his on air persona.

    What in depth knowledge did he ever really display? What info did he give that wasn't more shallow than your average yahoo sports commenter? Seriously, there's people on this forum that not only know more about the Xs & Os of this game than Marino ever will and he's a HoF player. Marino didn't study. That's fact. You need to study to be a good analyst. He was fired by 2 different places. That adds up.

    Look at this way, what makes anyone think he'll be good at job that isn't PR?
     
  25. JOHN_M

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    I just hope he puts a real flipper back in the end zone!

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  26. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Now that's funny. Fantasy football has created a world full of experts.
     
  27. JOHN_M

    JOHN_M New Member

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    Yeah cbs hated Dan so much that they only let him stay for 12 years!

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  28. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You do know that Marino was notorious for not giving a crap about film study or designed plays. He was the epitome of a sand lot style gunslinger.
     
  29. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Who said anything about hate?
     
  30. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    And he still knew more about x's and o's than you. Let me guess, you're a fantasy football guru.
     
  31. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Dude wtf are you talking about? I never claimed I knew more than him. Learn to read.
     
  32. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Ok, I assumed you were including yourself in that comment. Still a ridiculous statement.
     
  33. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Why is it ridiculous? Its a testament to just how good he was that he didn't give two ****s about film and strategy and still all he accomplished.

    Marino was great, but that doesn't mean he was great at everything.
     
  34. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I get what your saying Fin....

    But....I dont think anyone is saying hes coming in to save the franchise...or...be some miracle worker. Its just damn good to have the greatest player to ever wear our colors back in a capacity with the team. Not sure why your fighting it so much...
     
  35. Fin D

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    If you go back and read you'll see a few people saying this is a game changing moment in the FO.

    Again, I think its a good thing too.........IF his role is to be the go between from the FO to Ross and from the organization to the public. He's a solid choice PR wise (as long as there aren't anymore skeletons in his closet). Also, as someone else mentioned, what happens if he's a problem, the stadium is on Dan Marino Blvd. for crying out loud.

    To be honest, I think Jason Taylor would have been a better choice. I think he's a better student of the game and I think he's more media savvy, plus his first hand game knowledge is more relevant.
     
  36. Buckeyetroop

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    Because you claim to know what Marino did when he was our QB. Do you have inside info, were you actually there (part of the team) or are you just giving your opinion? Anyone can have an opinion, but unless you were actually part of the process then it's just that, an opinion which is the discussion.
     
  37. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    No I clearly am just making it up. You got me.

    Heeeeeeeyyyyyyyy waitaminute!!!!!! You seem to be pretty sure what I'm saying is fictional......do....Do you have inside info, were you actually there (part of the team) or are you just giving your opinion?
     
  38. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    ok anyhoot....dead horse here....its all good...woot!
     
  39. CrunchTime

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    This is the gist of the post I was going to make pretty much word for word..This team sorely lacks an image that is respected and Marino will give some credibility to the team when we are trying to acquire a high profile coach or player.Marino does not have to be an expert in any field to accomplish that,Its a good hire IMO.:up:
     
  40. Buckeyetroop

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    I just know the difference between fact and opinion, that's all.
     

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