ESPN poll of league insiders rates Joe Philbin 29th best coach

Foolish pride is a good way to put it and I really believe Ireland was afraid of the repercussions from the fanbase as the biggest reason he didn't pull the trigger on getting another left tackle. I know I would have went off on him. And I would have been wrong.

 

The real question is what percentage of blind idiots would take 8-6 right now rather than let the season play out? That would leave home games vs the Vikings and the Jets again week 17.

 

So, which is it, Ireland was the worst ever or is Philbin really horrible?

It cannot be both and still go 8-8 with a "there is no reason in hell that team shouldn't have been in the playoffs,". Its just not possible.

 

Yeah. For me 10-6 would have been an incredible coaching performance. And 9-7 would have been very good. There has to be some buffer between "very good" and "horribly inexcusable." Or maybe thats just me.

 

Yet the team is under 500 over the two years he has been the HC.

Quarterbacks usually play well when the players around them are also playing well and have a game plan for success. Any mediocre or below average HC can have success when his QB is playing well and the team plays well.

Instead of just looking at the games when the QB played well and the Dolphins won. Perhaps you would like to explain why the coaching staff did such a lousy job of preparing the team for their final two games of the season last year when the playoffs were there for the taking.

IF it's all about the play of the QB as you suggest. I guess that means anyone could coach an NFL team if you have a franchise type QB. Oh yeah, that doesn't work either because the Saints were terrible in 2012 when Sean Payton was suspended for the season, even though Brees was still the QB.

Having a top tier HC does matter to a team and unfortunately Philbin doesn't meet that criteria. If you like mediocre seasons, Philbin is the right guy for the job. If you want a legitimate Super Bowl contending team, the Dolphins need to go out and hire a legitimate top tier HC for the job.

 

I can't blame you for thinking thats true. But its not.

 

Okay, and can you please list the names of each employee that was surveyed? Or did you just assume that every NFL coach, executive and "NFL insider" was surveyed? Because everyone knows what happens when you assume...

So I guess my reply is, "If you're going to try to flame someone on a football forum, at least show an ounce of common sense before typing." You have no idea who was polled.

 

Barry Switzer went to a NFCCG and won a Super Bowl with Jimmy Johnson players and coaches. Then the wheels fell off. Lol.

 

Last year Sherman said he likes to run the ball even if it's not effective, just to keep them honest. Philbin says he'll abandon the run when he damn well feels like it.

There was a game earlier in the year when they ran the ball well and they still abandoned it. Lamar Miller ran the ball at 4.0 ypc.

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I mean, it got to the point players were calling them out with their names attached.

Absolutely a Philbin call.

 

Running the ball is a chicken/egg thing. Some teams are good at running the ball because they have a QB that demands respect. Other teams are good at running the ball because that is their core philosophy and they set up the team in invest more in the running game. We're working to become the former.

I think Philbin believes that its not possible for a defense to be balanced and on any given play there is more expected value [ev] in either the passing game or the running game, It's Tannehill's job to figure out where that extra ev is and get us in the correct play to try to exploit it. This is exactly what Peyton Manning does at the line. Peyton Manning is good at not only figuring out where the extra ev is but he's also able to execute. Tannehill is not there yet on either front.

And really that is the bottom line in a nutshell, no matter what scheme you are running or what your philosophies are you need an above average QB. One thing I will say is what we're doing is high variance. And high variance is a good thing if you have a team that's expected to finish about 8-8.

 

Nobody does that for a wide poll because it shows flaws in the process. In other polls, where they say, "We asked every NFL head coach and GM," you can say that's a fair poll. You can't make the same deduction when they say, "We asked some coaches and executives..." This is modern Politics 101; if you can't find the stat you need to prove a point, then create the stat with a "comprehensive poll of industry insiders and executives."

 

Fine with me, I still don't have confidence in Philbin. It's 10 wins minimum or I'll be lobbying for his replacement.

I don't know how fans continue to have patience for these 'coaches' with no backbone.

 

This should have been what Ross read to introduce Philbin when he was hired.

 

He actually wins a decent number of challenges.

So....

 

That's actually not surprising, considering he only had two jobs in Green Bay. Okay 3. Coordinate the game planning, telling McCarthy when to challenge, and spell checking.

True story.

When asked what he did in Green Bay if he didn't call plays, didn't create the scheme, and didn't work directly with any players, this is it:

When asked what he did in Green Bay, that's the best he could come up with. Should have been a red flag [edit: no pun intended] right then and there. This reads like a resume by someone who writes, "worked on mergers and acquisitions" and all they did was make photocopies of the merger documents. You know it is bad, when you're talking about grammer and spell checking and touting that as some sort of feather in your cap.

 

Slam dunk. Brilliantly said.

 

Well if you are going to lay QB play at his feet, he had options as to who that QB was going to be. If he didn't, then he really does lack the skills to be an NFL head coach.

 

Or Bellicheck also recognized that we were having success running the ball and made adjustments at half time. So what on the surface appears to be a nonsensical abandonment of the running game was Sherman trying to take what the defense was giving. Now you could argue that Sherman might have continued with the run to see if Billy boys adjustments would actually work or done a better job of mixing things up. But lets not pretend that Joe went into the locker room at half time ranting about how he hates running plays and told Sherman to stop calling them.

 

That failure to field a punt returner last night was a great opportunity by the Rams. I'd like to see us take advantage of opportunities like that when they present themselves. Good coaches limit those situations for other teams and take them whenever possible.

 

Wait what happened. Our team failed to field a punt returner? How does the Chief Spell Check Officer allow that to happen?

 

Adam Beasley says that while the media are taking it as a given that Shelley Smith has the starting right guard job, the coaching staff has kept the decision between Shelley Smith and Dallas Thomas very close to the vest and some people very close to the situation still don't know whether it's going to be Thomas or Smith.

Reason #317.

 

I'm sure it will be Smith, but the secrecy is stupid.

 

Who wants to chip in on a billboard demanding Shelly Smith start? Or Dallas Thomas, its up to you, I just know the billboard needs to happen at this point.

 

Another head coach who's name needs to be added to the list if Philbin isn't the HC of the Dolphins in 2014 should be, Kevin Sumlin.

I think he has done an excellent job at Texas A&M and he also turned around SMU before taking the A&M job. I think he would be an excellent NFL HC and I would prefer him over Malzahn or Fisher, if Ross decides to hire a college HC as the next Dolphins HC.