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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Knowledge, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for stepping up. I mean, McLovin is still fappin in the ladies lounge. Did he even know we played today?

    But you're crazy to be so down. Pats executed well. They produced, they have a ton of talent. They just took a beating in the second half. But they will easily make the play-offs again.
     
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  2. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    :sidelol:

    Appreciate it, but... a bit overboard I'd say. However... i love it!
     
  3. ElNino

    ElNino Well-Known Member

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    "....as long as you are willing to admit that"

    OP good on you. Welcome back next time as far as i'm concerned.

    This maybe a passing of the QB torch in AFC east. I know some are slamming Tanny even in the win, but he was clutch a number of times on 3rd down, and hit wallace deep even if he didn't stay in bounds (could have). The offense rarely stalled, which is very promising. All of a sudden we look to have 2 good running backs too. Man i'm pumped!
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lol..pretty much..

    I thought knowledgable had some potential to be cool, he just lost his cool a bit and got influenced by the punks that were here.

    Bottom line..this game was about run game and defense, we suffocated them and Morenos fire was all over the field.
     
  5. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    The Saints and Broncos have better WR's and better OL's. Brady's best TE is also still trying to come back from a serious leg injury, while Manning and Brees have all pro TE's to throw the ball to.

    Put Brady on the Broncos or the Saints right now and he would still be a very productive QB in the NFL.

    It appears that the Patriots trying to do it on the cheap on the offensive side of the ball and relying completely on Brady to bail them out, might finally be catching up with them. Belichick really has done a poor job in recent years of putting quality talent around Brady.
     
  6. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    How is Brady washed up and Tannehill one of the best? Would take Brady > Tannehill all day.
     
  7. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Hmm I mostly agree but I'm not unsure that Manning has made JT a great TE rather than him just being a great TE that helps Manning.
     
  8. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Exactly!

    Also, Brady's long ball has always been below average. He's lived off of the dink and dunk passes his entire career. Last year and in this game it seems that he's lost that dink and dunk touch he used to have perfected. Add to it that Brady, for being an all time great, is probably the worst in regards to overcoming pressure. He rattles easier than most QB's regardless of their talent.
     
  9. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I don't think I stated that Manning made JT a great TE. I merely pointed out that Brees and Manning both have healthy all pro TE's to throw the ball to.

    The Saints and Broncos front office have done a much better job of providing Brees and Manning with talented offensive players around them, than Belichick has done for Brady. That was all I was pointing out.
     
  10. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I disagree, but hasn't the typical media clown and Pats fan always claimed that Brady won Super Bowls with no WR's or O-line? Don't they claim that Brady has carried this team with his greatness? Now, when it seems he's declining, (which is inevitable) some want to claim he's playing poorly because he has no WR's or O-line?

    Funny stuff...
     
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  11. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    Same way it's no coincidence Verlander goes from 2.50 era to 4.50 era.
     
  12. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Sorry I worded that poorly. I meant to imply Manning made Thomas a great TE. I'm not sure he's nearly as good without Manning much like I don't think Decker is.
     
  13. dWreck

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    So intense man. All day before the game my nerves were shot. But To see so many players off the bench on defense tear it up... We were just goin wild. Most pats fans were civil, one of them was very very very close to a beat down. But the energy there was just a beautiful thing. 7-0 baby
     
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  14. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    As much as I hate the Pats(believe me I do), I don't think you guys suck. Brady was killing us most of the game. If our starting LBs return we won't look so good(sad that our backups are better). Also, we've beaten the Pats plenty of times in the first matchup only to get our asses kicked in the second. BB is going to study film on us, from this game on, and you guys will be better prepared the next game against us. Thanks for the good sportsmanship though. :)
     
  15. FanMarino

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    Yep.
     
  16. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Who cares what the ESPN analysis of the game is. We watched the game and we know the truth, no matter what they say on ESPN.

    Personally I would rather go out and watch the ocean waves here on Maui and just ignore anything those idiots on ESPN have to say about he game.
     
  17. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    His fist few years in the league he didn't put up very good numbers. That changed when they signed Moss. That was the only time I saw Brady's longball look good. But for the most part, Brady has been a very efficient game managing dink and dunk passer. He's the Montana of this era, the system made him not his talent alone(but to his credit he did improve and evolve as a QB). Manning is the true top pure pocket passer of this era, not Brady.
     
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  18. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I agree Manning makes his receivers better than an average NFL QB would. I just think that if Brady played for the Broncos, he could also have a lot of success with Thomas, Decker, and the rest of the offensive talent on that roster.

    Right now, the Broncos appear to have a much better offensive roster than the Patriots.
     
  19. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    That's how it always is. Dolphins never get any respect in the national media, from the NFL and the officials. We should never expect to be respected either. Especially when we play like crap for the better part of the last couple decades. That'll change when we win. Look at the Heat, until we got LeBron no one respected us, even when Zo was in his prime, even when we traded for Shaq and won a trophy. How many times we faced the Knicks and dealt with a hostile national media and biased refs? Same with Dolphins(see Pittsburg game with Steratore). Winning and creating a winning culture is what will change that, but not guaranteed. Even when the Heat had LeBron all we heard about was where he was going to play next, not any praise for the team he was playing on. South Florida teams, except the U maybe, don't get respect for the national media. It's just the way it is. Too many transplants and fair weather fans for us to overcome that, and that's out of everyone's control. The only way that'll change is when we win, and then win on a consistent basis. The Cowboys are a joke and the Yankees are old, but they continue to get favorable press coverage and have legions of fans because of the winning culture established. The Dolphins didn't become a disrespected team until the Marino and JJ era blew up.
     
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  20. RhodyPhinsFan

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    You people must be new to dealing with Patriots fans. When they lose, it's time to blow up the team everyone under the bus, how could we lose to a team that sucks???? It's out birthright to go 16-0, how could this happen?

    I pray for the day they go 8-8, it'll clean the bandwagon of people in New England who discovered pro football on February 3, 2002.
     
  21. ToddPhin

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    I concur. :shifty:
     
  22. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hmm, if one wishes to play the Samuari with the sincere apology, then by all means, shave your head and become a monk...or Belicheat...

    Or perhaps, make the pilgrimage to whatever Facility that the murderous bastard Robert whomever is currently house in

    Bit of a rant, cannot stand the Cheatriots, literally, cannot stand them

    Hope Jimmy Wilson is okay
     
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  23. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I'm not so sure he would. I think Manning is able to go to pretty much any team and make them better. I don't think there are many teams that Brady could play for and make better in the way that Manning could. The Pats system is perfect for Brady.
     
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  24. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    I hope bad karma continues for them. They're the one team that the NFL has changed rules for constantly to favor them. It all started after 9/11 and the league needed a team to inspire everyone and patriotism was the in thing. Low and behold, the Patriots go from being an average team to "dynasty", all from controversial plays. Im not saying there's a conspiracy, but when the league writes up rules as they go along favoring a particular team, one has to wonder. FYI, I felt the same about the '99 NFC Championship game Rams vs Bucs which I felt the Bucs were robbed in that one(Bert Emanuel catch), Warner was the league's inspirational story that year and I think they did that for ratings(it did setup a great Superbowl though). IMO, all sports leagues are rigged to a degree, the NBA being the worst. Anyway, when the Giants beat them in the Superbowl in 2007 I felt like the Death Star blew up. I never been as happy as that day. One of the best moments of my entire life. I felt like WE had won the Superbowl. I was a Giants fan that day, the saved our Perfect Season, and from then on Ill always respect them. At least they're not the Jets :lol:
     
  25. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    One thing we should credit Coyle and Rodgers for, is how disciplined our pass rushers are, for not coming in high near the head. There were several hits on Brady where it was a shoulder into the midsection which is just exactly the way you want to go after the QB.
     
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  26. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I NEVER said Brady could go to any team and make it better. I only mentioned the Saints and Broncos as teams he could go to and the teams would remain playoff contenders. This is based on my belief that these two teams have excellent offensive talent on their rosters and Brady is still effective enough to have success with rosters as talented as these two teams.
     
  27. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    How odd, keep in mind the Cheatriots KNEW damn well Robert whomever was an absolute thug

    They rewarded him with millions

    Like Spygate, I REFUSE to give that organization a pass

    This is one of the reasons why I give not a care that Pouncey is an all pro..we know..I refuse to take the wink and nod path
     
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  28. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Or the way Roy Hobbs went into a major hitting slump when he started spending too much time with Memo Paris. :yes:
     
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  29. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    No fist bump from me. Go get your shine box.



     
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  30. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    That's fair. I think you're both right. Manning is the LeBron of this league, he can go anywhere and have success no matter the coach/system, ect. Brady could only be successful if A. His coach his BB or B. He has Pro Bowl talent all around him ala Broncos and Saints. Brady is more like Carmelo Anthony in that he needs to be more on a complete team or with the right coach/system to be successful. Though I think Brady's heart and passion is million times more than Anthony's so not the best comparison.
     
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  31. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Problem is, his vag is bigger too.
     
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  32. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Hey its only one game. Pats are still going to have anywhere from 9-11 wins most likely.

    I bet they'll put a beatdown on Minn next week. If not...then maybe you can worry.
     
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  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He came back into the game. Didn't show any apparent ill effects.
     
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  34. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    IMO there was much more the Spygate that we will never know and unfortunately its because the NFL is not going to lose money and prestige by revealing everything they've permitted NE to do(cause I really dont think Goddell cared that much even if the NFL knew they were cheating before they were "caught") I dont buy that "everyone cheats" either, because not every team was playing as if they knew what their oppoent was doing every play like NE did back then. Those games we played against them I swear the Pats knew everything we were doing. Granted AJ Feely was a bad QB, but theyre defense played like they had our playbook or were listening in our playcalls. Im more interested in the evidence that they taped the Rams practices leading up the SB more so, because it always felt fishy to me. The whole decade when the Pats were the "dynasty" team I felt the NFL was crooked and there was more to it. Spygate finally revealed the emperor has no clothes, but the NFL wasn't going to tarnish its own product by doing a thorough investigation and punishing the Pats more than they did(a slap on the wrist). Its even more evident when they made Matt Walsh sign those confidentiality agreements.
     
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  35. jw3102

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    I remember that back in the years before Belichick and Brady, Patriot fans spent most of their time more worried about how the their baseball, hockey and basketball teams were doing during football season than how their football team was doing.

    They only seemed to become full of themselves once Belichick became the hC and the team started to have success. Hardly any New England fans traveled down to South Florida to attend games in the years before Belichick. In fact I know a couple of Patriot fans in the 1990's who would tell their wives they were coming down for the game and once they got to Miami, they headed straight to South Beach and never got to within 15 miles of the stadium.

    Patriot fans today and in recent years are much like the Bill fans during the years their team was going to the SB every year. They figured their team was better than every other team in the division and it would never end. I think some Patriot fans are coming to the realization that the other teams in the division are no longer accepting that the Patriots are the team to beat anymore.

    It appears that very shortly Patriot fans will be experiencing what the rest of the fans in the division have been experiencing for much of the past decade and a half. As the saying goes, "all good things eventually come to and end'. The end of the Patriots control over the division certainly appears closer than many so called experts thought it was.

    I'm not saying the Patriots can't turn it around and have success this season. I just don't see them being the dominant team in the division over the next 5-10 years. Once Brady is though, I doubt Belichick will be lucky enough to find another future HOF QB in the draft.
     
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  36. RhodyPhinsFan

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    The amazing thing is Patriots fans actually think the league is out to get them....whenever they lose, the entire post game show is picking out the bad calls against them (which are almost never and not even worth talking about considering all that go their way)they are obsessed with the idea that the Broncos and Manning are "Goodell's team", but when you point out he is surgically attached at the hip to Robert Kraft, they look at you like you have five heads. The cognitive dissonance is unreal.
     
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  37. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I always thought it was an odd coincidence that in the season following 9/11, with all the fervor about patriotism and the fear of more terrorist attacks, the "Patriots" beat the "Raiders", on some vague rule that seemed to be created while Walt Coleman was under the replay hood. .
     
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  38. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Going by their recent drafts, I wouldn't be so confident in BB finding Brady's replacement either. Unless Jimmy G turns out to be the real deal, but I'm not so high on him. A couple of nice plays in the preseason doesnt make a HOF QB.
     
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  39. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You're not gonna like this, but I thought that back then too.
     
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  40. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Lotta guys I know did as well. I even pulled for them during their first SB (like to see a team win that never has gotten one, if we're not there).

    Hated them ever since.
     

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