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Quick Thoughts On Phins DOmination of Pats

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bpk, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Dolphans Unite!

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    I'm not sure that's going to work, because the minute you make him make downfield reads, his attention will be similarly allocated too heavily downfield at the expense of his awareness of the pass rush.

    If you tell him to run, he'll concentrate on running and do just fine at it. But if you tell him to pass -- and run only if he needs to -- he'll focus on passing and not be attuned enough to the rush to know when he needs to run.

    What he needs to start doing is having his downfield reads tell him -- sooner -- when running the ball out of the pocket is likely to be needed on a play. He needs to use the attention he's paying downfield to tell him -- again, sooner -- when he's likely to have to run on a play. When the defense looks like it's going to have a certain call covered very well, Tannehill needs to recognize that quickly and realize he's probably going to have to move on that play.
     
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  2. Ludacris

    Ludacris Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's one of those games you keep in your DVR forever and back it up in case some fool deletes it.
     
  3. Brasfin

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    Really liked McCain's debut.. don't want to get myself too excited, but now that Clowney's injured for a couple of games, we might have a legitimate DROY candidate...and he's already got a sack and a punt block to his name!
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    were On the same page.

    However, if he can't do it himself, then lets help him..there can be four rollouts a game, because he's equally deft at throwing left or right, there can be at least four or five read options, and there can be a good talking to before the game telling him on this first drive, I want you to drop back pretend your going downfield, see the lane, and run your *** off.
     
  5. dolfan22

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    Will need a lot more snaps.
     
  6. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Don't see why he shouldn't get more snaps if he continues playing like this.
     
  7. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    You know I love Wilson and I agree that he brings more to the table. But the discussion is about inaccurate passes and my point stands that all QBs have some inaccurate passes. Tannehill is not inaccurate compared to most QBs. The amount of grief he gets for it is unfair.
     
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  8. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    every single qb does it, tonight manning had a chance to ice the game against the colts and missed 2 wide open passes that he should hit in his sleep.
     
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  9. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I agree. The Pitt game last year was a classic example of exactly that. He ran that one time early and I remember that it seemed to me as if he was on all game. The game looked easy, like Wilson so often makes it look.
     
  10. Fin D

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    For the record, I see people saying the INT Tanny threw was underthrown. It wasn't. The defender stepped in front and jumped for the ball. That was a good defensive play.
     
  11. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I saw that. When Tannehill does that and there's a multi-page thread about how streaky and inaccurate Tannehill is.
     
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  12. Fin D

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    OMG!!!!!!! TANNY!!!!!!!!!!!! SUXXXXXXX!!!!!!!
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  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes I know you were high on Wilson as well, my only point is if your going to be one dimensional and still be a upper echelon Qb that you need to be more accurate then the Russell Wilson's, Kaeperniks..
     
  14. djphinfan

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    Yes, because I believe it isn't just about making him feel comfortable, but it creates lanes and space on future downs, planting seeds in defenders can have positive derivative affects..

    The engine isn't firing Rafs..he's not able to scan, perceive the rush, and engage the athleticism at the same time..

    Just being super critical here, talking about being the franchise ya know...he's got talent..and I feel confident he didn't play up to his own standards..I do think he was to jacked up..
     
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  15. rafael

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    I just don't see it as a reasonable expectation. RT is pretty accurate comparably. IMO he is already more accurate than the Wilsons and Kaepernicks. It seems that people want him to be far more accurate than any other QB is.
     
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  16. JMHPhin

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    Brady missed a couple wide open receivers deep yesterday.
     
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  17. dolfan40

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    I don´t like all the blame for Tannehill,lets not forget that this was the first game in this offense...He missed throws but if wr´s caught the td he would have been 4Td to 1 int...The offense will get better he needs to get the rust off...Oline was great if Pouncey comes back wow,he is the best center who goes second level...Benton is one of the best Ol coaches was surprised to be there for us to grab...
     
  18. Dolphans Unite!

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    I think the issue here is that on a day when the franchise appeared to take a significant step forward, Tannehill did not. The team overall seemed to have made a leap forward, whereas Tannehill seemed to be the same player he was last year. That's discouraging.
     
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  19. jcliving

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    No, that is too strong of a statement. He had problems with ball location. He made good decisions. He did a good job running the offense. His play speed was good. He needs to improve his throwing mechanics and route anticipation.
     
  20. jcliving

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    I completely agree that the overall team made a significant step forward, but I include Tannehill in that statement. His play speed is much better, and he ran the offense well. He definitely need to improve ball location, but you are not being fair.
     
  21. GARDENHEAD

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    Exactly. I was waiting all day for a Tanny keeper and it never came. Hope he busts out a big one or two versus Buffalo.
     
  22. TooGoodForDez

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    I thought RT ran just right. I don't think he is a good runner, he is not elusive, he runs straight line and is fumble prone when running. He can run nicely to move the pocket left and right and I thought yesterday he did that well on a few plays and made good decisions to throw the ball away. He is also inaccurate when throwing on the run, that needs to improve, but they should keep rolling him to keep the threat and to improve him. I am happy with the way they run him, I would be concerned if he ran true end-read option.
     
  23. thisperishedmin

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    Not sure if this is the best place for it...but what are thoughts on the D when R. Jones returns based on the current LB scenario?

    Assuming that the D continues to play as we saw yesterday in the second half...does he help by giving another option for "attacking" (as seen 2 years ago) or do we expect that he'll have more of last years role (less direct impact as a result of covering the LB core deficiencies)?

    Basically - does Reshad come back as an attack dog in the secondary or a protect safety?
     
  24. Colmax

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    Tannehill, at this point in his career.......I am not so sure that he is as accurate as Wilson. I do not think the completion percentage tells the whole story. From a pure accuracy standpoint, I think Wilson takes it. The thing that I think separates Wilson from Tannehill is that he is predictably accurate. Tannehill can make a 'wow' throw, then misses high on the next throw.....and he does it in bunches.

    What separates Wilson from Tannehill from a pure QB'ing standpoint is that he is consistent.
     
  25. gandalfin

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    On the subject of Tannehill's accuracy, I think the wind was somewhat of a factor. It appeared to be pretty strong and swirling. At least a contributing factor. Our opponent's quarterback's accuracy was off quite a bit as well, and not always due to the pressure.
     
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  26. TooGoodForDez

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    He'll play the same role that Wilson played yesterday. Reshad plays with great speed and really good instincts, and he's a better tackler. He is missed more than Jordan and Pouncey.

    And as far as Pouncey, with the all the contract decisions next year and his desires and last year's fiasco, I don't know about his future with the Phins. I don't think it'd be wise to resign him for major money which he will require.
     
  27. Colmax

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    I noticed that as well. Good point!
     
  28. thisperishedmin

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    I have to agree - in yesterdays game I'd have certainly rather had Jones back than either of the other two...not that they couldnt still be huge gains as the year wears on as well. Thanks for the input though - I find it very hard to judge the secondary as I only get to watch the TV view and its rare to really see their impact or positioning clearly.

    RE Pouncey - I'd be surprised if hes back honestly. Maybe I'm wrong - hes hell of an athlete - but I'm not sure the football IQ and "team player" aspect align with the long term plans of the current regime. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I would hate to cough up top dollar money on C - but depending how the year goes maybe it changes my mind. The problem (as always) is that we lack a LONG term solution outside of Pouncey.
     
  29. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I'm less concerned about Pouncey personality, even tho I am not high on him. I simply don't think $8+ mil on Pouncey is wise spending.
     

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