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Props to Wallace

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin D, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    He didn't have a great game with a few drops.

    Buuuuuuuuuuuut he finally played fired up, fought for the ball and broke some tackles. If he can play with that kind of intensity he'll earn his contract.

    That actually goes for the whole team. The intensity was the major difference between the last and the game yesterday.
     
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  2. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Agreed.. And I've been a big Wallace basher. I liked the fire. He may not have the physical ability to be the WR we want him to be, but if he plays hard he can be effective.
     
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  3. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    He made plays when we needed it. He's got all world speed that we sometimes have trouble capitalizing on.

    I think a lot of the backlash with Wallace is we paid top tier WR money for him and the reality is he is probably is a top 15-20 WR. He's still a very good WR but he's not in the class of Megatron, Dez Bryant, Marshall, Green, Thomas, etc.
     
  4. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I do not know what happened in the locker during the half, but they came out pretty hard in the the second half. I mean, Mike Wallace heading up the sidelines and lowering his shoulder inside the 10-yard line on a DB??? When does that ever happen?

    I give major props to the coaching staff.
     
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  5. GARDENHEAD

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    Loved how he fought off Revis for that TD. Perhaps the fumble fired him up. Pissed him off and he decided to really work to make up for it.
     
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  6. thisperishedmin

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    Agreed - truly shocked....wasnt the trend last year that we came out and looked like **** in the 3rd quarter (and too often 4th quarter as well)? What happened that they came out looking like a new team and making the right adjustments. **** me sideways if we keep that up all year I'll be thrilled.

    Philbins biggest problem last year was a complete failure to get the team out for the second half looking energized (or simply NOT flat) - and make any meaningful adjustments. We got both of those in BIG ways yesterday. Then again - I wonder how much of that is the new position coaches (and of course coordinator on O) vs how much of that is a result of new players giving fire in the locker room (moreno? Others?) vs how much of that was purely the HC refusing to lose his job and getting the team going for him. **** we'll never know - but whatever it was - put that lightning in a big *** ****ing 55 gal drum. We cant have this week be a lightning in a bottle scenario.
     
  7. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Tannehill Owed Wallace Two TD's. Those two still aren't on the same page.

    it will come though. I think.
     
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  8. Mitchellenman

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    Loved the way he fought for the ball in his TD, and the aggression he showed by lowering the shoulder on the DB near the end!
     
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  9. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    It looked a lot closer than last year. That play they missed deep would have been a hell of a play on both ends
     
  10. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    If he can be what Desean Jackson was or what I expect Maclin to be this year ill be happy. I don't pay his contract, if we win its worth it
     
  11. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    That lowering the shoulders on DB play was not only a tough play, but it was a smart winning play because he kept it in bounds for clock to keep running which is what we needed at that point in the game. I was more impressed with that part of it.
     
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  12. SICK

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    Props for doing what hes paid to do. Great job.
     
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  13. Ronnie Bass

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    Wouldn't be surprised if Moreno's badass attitude had something to do with it, as the game went on it seemed the Dolphins were feeding off from his determination.
     
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  14. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    The one I thought was pretty bad was when Wallace smoked Revis on a double move. Tanny led him toward the sideline, when all he had to do was drop it behind Revis.
     
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  15. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Completely agree. Wallace sees Moreno pouring his heart and soul into eachrun all game, suddenly wallace lowers a shoulder on a DB? Nah, that doesn't just happen like that. Im sure the whole offense was like "oh, its on now baby!"
     
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  16. finwin

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    We need a team that doesn't play down to the competition. We had a good team last year but that was one of their major flaws. As for Wallace, I still put that pass too far to the sideline on Tannehill. He needed it a foot more to the left because there's no need to skirt the sideline like he does. The fade pass to the end zone was also poorly thrown. Since this is a Wallace thread though, I thought he did an outstanding job. And Tanehill's PR is in the 90s I think.
     
  17. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    The dbl move on revis should have been caught. I think every other wr on this team stays in bounds there. Wallace made up for it with his td he had to go up and get, but I don't give him a pass at all for not keeping his feet in.
     
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  18. heylookatme

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    Agree. Tannehill was at fault on most of those missed connections -- bad throws -- but Wallace has to keep two feet in bounds in the end zone. Tannehill had to throw that on the move with a guy breathing down his neck. You're talking about 6 to 10 inches of ball placement on that pass being the QB's fault?
     
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  19. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Moreno fed the team. I believe his attitude was like a virus.
     
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  20. cuchulainn

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    He wasn't the pansy he was last season yesterday. It helped.
     
  21. Coloradotrv

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    I couldn't believe my eyes when he dropped the shoulder for those extra couple of yards. It was beautiful.
     
  22. Section126

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    Yes it was.

    Every receiver is taught to CATCH THE BALL FIRST. He did that. The area in which he caught it made it more likely for him to be out of bounds , when the ball placement could have been MUCH better.

    It was a bad pass, and more importantly, the Dolphins Coaching staff thinks it was a bad pass as well.
     
  23. vt_dolfan

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    It wasnt a great pass...but Tannehill did make so big throws.

    He graded out really high on PFF..which usually people use to show how he didnt do well..be interesting how we could see he had a bad first half..but a good second half and he got a 3.2
     
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  24. heylookatme

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    You'll have to forgive me, but when I hear that the Dolphins coaching staff only has the team practicing those deep sideline passes a handful of times per week, what are they expecting?
     
  25. Section126

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    PFF's grades are wacky this morning.....
     
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  26. vt_dolfan

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    So...they are wacky when it says someone did good...but not wacky when they did bad?
     
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  27. Sceeto

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    Yeah, I've watched that play a few times and I didn't need to because it was obvious when it happened, but I didn't think he had a chance to get his feet down. I thought it was funny how some were complaining about that. Sometimes people don't take into account the speed of the ball as well as the speed, motion and timing of the receiver. Just because he was able to get his hand on the ball, doesn't mean he can automatically get his feet down. There just wasn't enough time and space.
     
  28. Rocky Raccoon

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    With that mentality, no one should ever be praised.
     
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  29. Section126

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    I didn't say that.
     
  30. GARDENHEAD

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    It was clearly Tanny's "fault" on that TD where Revis got dusted. Like Section126 said, Tanny just had to drop the ball in there. No reason to leave a small margin for error.

    I loved Tanny's overall play yesterday. He just made a few mistakes. It happens.
     
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  31. Coloradotrv

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    Gotta remember how young the kid still is. This is his prove it or lose it season but, he is still developing as an NFL QB and in his first year in a new offense. Lots of throws he should have made and quite a few made that he wouldn't have made last year. He is improving though. We will see if he can improve on this performance next week. .

    Can't wait till we see some of that read option.
     
  32. vt_dolfan

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    No no..didnt mean you did..my bad..poor wording choice..just he must have done more right then what we saw...wonder if the coaches saw alot of good things in 2nd half...cuz to get 3.2 after his first half..he had to do something right
     
  33. vt_dolfan

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    There was also a pretty good wind yesterday...with him rolling to the right like that..wind could also have caused it to drift..it wasnt that far from being an amazing throw..
     
  34. pmj

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    Do we have a video of the throw? I'm going from memory but I remember being really impressed with the throw considering we was on the run and kind of threw it on the run without fully stopping (again, going from memory). He could have placed the ball a foot or two more inbounds and Wallace could have dragged a foot. Do we really expect every ball to have perfect placement?
     
  35. finwin

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    Tannehill was like 6-7 to start the game and ended up 18-32 which is a pretty low completion percentage. If you give him 4 drops it takes him to 68.75% completion rate with 3 TDs and 1 int and add about 80 yds would be about 250. I think that QBR would be 110. That said, I think he deserved the 80 QBR for throwing behind the receivers during the first half. I'd put him partially responsible for the Wallace fumble.

    http://www.primecomputing.com/
     
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  36. invid

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    I think if Wallace was 6'5" you could get away with a more erroneous throw, but his forte is speed, which he used to break away from Revis on a double move. There's the #1 receiver on your team capitalizing on the skill set that you brought him in for. Now give him the decent throw that he afforded you.
     
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  37. invid

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    In a game where most of our receiving threats were not productive, Mike Wallace was, despite the fumble and the miscues.
     
  38. ckparrothead

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    I think it's borderline insane to criticize the Tannehill throw where Wallace stepped out of bounds unnecessarily. Yes I expect the coaching staff to get on Tannehill for that because they want perfection, and they should ask for perfection. That's part of being a good coach. But Wallace's screwup on that play was MUCH bigger, if you compare them. The ball was well within a receiver's ability to get both feet in-bounds, but he doesn't. I see guys that make less than a third of what Wallace makes, making that catch and getting their feet in-bounds. I see guys in college doing it. But Wallace doesn't. Yet it's still Tannehill's fault.

    The excuse-making for Wallace has reached insanity levels. For much of the game Wallace was absolutely, positively atrocious. He didn't look back for a ball on time. He fumbled the ball. I believe he let two balls hit him right on the facemask which is Necessary Roughness comical. One of the balls that got tipped up he immediately puts his arms and head down and starts looking for the flag WHILE THE BALL WAS STILL ALIVE. If he just keeps his concentration on the ball in the tip drill, he could have still scored a touchdown. He later showed that himself when Revis tipped a ball in the end zone and Wallace was able to come down with it because he actually focused on the ball instead of lobbying for the flag immediately.

    Tannehill had issues with the execution of the offense and there were some throws that weren't good. I'm not sure I'd give him a high grade for the game. But there continues to be this weird tendency to shift some of the blame that is owed the $17 million salaried wide receiver onto Ryan Tannehill.
     
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  39. vt_dolfan

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    There was one throw from Tannehill that Wallace had clearly pushed past the 1st down marker by three yards..and Tannehill put it right on his mitts...if Wallace had actually come back to the ball that was a big first down and would have gotten us from under our goal posts. But Wallace waited leaving Revis a chance to get his hand in.

    That being said...dude gets open no doubt about it. He had his way with Revis yesterday.
     
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  40. TooGoodForDez

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    That throw was late af.
     

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