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Props to Wallace

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin D, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    these two are apparently having good riffs in the locker room..they crack on each other like they don't like each other then say " it's all good though, he's my dude..

    Moreno doesn't wanna talk to anyone in game day...daddy like.
     
  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yup, the ball should of been on him way before..not sure why it wasn't actually, asked Travis is his other thread, still waiting on response.

    He was outside the pocket so I guess he had quick direct pressure and wasn't able to stay on his primary..
     
  3. Dolphans Unite!

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    Wallace is the highest-paid wide receiver in the league. If that's the kind of game he's going to play to earn his money, we're in trouble.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    can you tell us why the ball want put on Wallace once he schooled Revis on the out fake?
     
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  5. vt_dolfan

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    Wilfork sniffed the play and was about ready to turn RT17 into a turkey leg
     
  6. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    The play was a play-action with a boot leg attached to the play-fake. That's a long timing play. It was meant to take a while. Tannehill actually sped it up to maintain the right timing. He sprinted further right and released the ball at a dead run instead of stopping to set his feet. He had Wilfork in his face when he turned around off the play-fake.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ok, so you don't feel that Ryan had any chance of putting that ball on Wallace as soon as Revis commits to the out fake?
     
  8. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    If Wallace has that kind of game every Sunday, we are in good hands. He was beating Revis, NE's "top 5" secondary, all day long, running circles around them and thensome. Wallace dominated them yesterday.
     
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  9. 407PhinFan

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    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20140...ecap&menu=gameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000390975

    Everyone needs to watch this video at 47 seconds in. Does anyone hear, "Tannehill fails to hit his man.", or do they hear, "Wallace fails to keep his feet in bounds"?

    Furthermore, does anyone see where the ball falls? Wallace catches the ball IN THE GREEN AREA OF THE END ZONE. He doesn't pluck it from the air out of bounds for some phenomenal catch. The throw was there, the catch was not. Wallace had a decent day in my opinion, but he absolutely HAS to play better to be worth the money he's getting. Megatron has 2 TDs and 130 yards at halftime. How is Wallace worth that kind of money if he can't catch a ball on the sideline? If you have to leave your feet to make that catch you so can toe tap... You do it. Professionals catch the ball. Greats catch the ball IN BOUNDS.
     
  10. 407PhinFan

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    DJ, Ryan was running from Vince Wilfork as soon as he completed his play action. Once he was able to see Wallace open he dropped the ball in the end zone. And realistically, it was a double move - Tannehill releases the ball around the time Wallace does the double move, which is the perfect time to throw.
     
  11. djphinfan

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    need a gif..can't remember the details
     
  12. vt_dolfan

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    Hmmm...sounds like we could be getting some players back..drug vote is tom. Sounded like players will be reinstated
     
  13. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Couldn't come at a better time.
     
  14. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    None at all... :)
     
  15. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    smh
     
  16. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    No I get what you're saying...I do. He's valuable, I just wish he'd catch better...but I guess I'm banging my head against a wall on that one.
     
  17. Fin-Omenal

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    People who constantly bring up his salary and compare him to Calvin Johnson were destined to be butt hurt.
     
  18. mroz

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    I just watched this play like 20 times in slow motion...

    1. Tannehill turns his head and picks up Wallace about a full second before he throws the ball
    2. When Tannehill first picks up Wallace Wilfork is about 5 yards away from him.
    3. By the time Tannehill throws the ball Wilfork is about a yard away BUT Tannehill had stepped up and there was no way Wilfork was going to hit him.
    4. Wilfork never touches Tannehill
    5. Wallace broke open at about the 18 yard line. The ball didn't get to him until he was 20+ yards down the field.
    6. As the ball is coming down the point of the ball was pointing 45 degrees towards the side line indicating is was heading/drifting in the direction.
    7. When the ball hits Wallace's hands his right foot is off the ground and his left foot is about 6" inbound.
    8. Wallace's right foot lands about a foot out of bounds.
    9. Wallace drags his left foot for whatever reason.

    My conclusion

    Watching the play full speed, Wilfork had no impact on the throw what so ever.
    Tannehill delivered the ball late and about a yard too far right.
    Wallace should have been able to stay in bounds
     
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  19. ckparrothead

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    No because that wasn't the timing built into the play. It was a zone play-fake from under center with his back turned to the defense followed by a boot action, set up then throw. It's not like he was just sitting back there waiting waiting waiting and then threw it.
     
  20. ckparrothead

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    Doesn't he have a point?

    If a "good" game from your star wide receiver who is commanding like top 3 average annual pay for his services...is THAT game, with two balls hitting him in the facemask, one of which he gave up on and started lobbying for a flag while the ball was still live in the air and could've been caught, plus the fumble, plus the failure to get both feet inbounds on that deep ball, plus the failure to come back for the football on that one 3rd down play...

    I mean if, despite all that, that was "good" for that super high paid wide receiver...then there are BIG issues with that contract.
     
  21. mroz

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    It was a designed rollout, Smith got beat by Wilfork but Wilfork had no effect on the play
     
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  22. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Hartline makes that catch.
     
  23. Fin D

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    Yes he would.

    He wouldn't have gotten by Revis though.

    Sigh.
     
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  24. ckparrothead

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    I've watched that play as much as you and I absolutely do not agree with the statement that Wilfork had no effect on the play. It's crystal clear Tannehill saw Wilfork and makes an effort to evade him, and that he had no option to STOP and setup properly because of Wilfork. If all you mean by "he had no effect" was he never actually touched Tannehill then I think you're missing a lot as far as what a defensive player can do to affect the quarterback.
     
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  25. mroz

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    you really need to watch the play again... Wilfork was 5 yards away from Tannehill when he turned his head down field to pick up Wallace. Tannehill was actually shuffling forward when he threw the ball. He was NOT on a dead run as you wrote. Wilfork was never in Tannehill's face, for that matter Wilfork never touched Tannehill on that play.
     
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  26. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    The way these guys are using motion it's going to be hard to check them all at the line.
     
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  27. mroz

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    Tannehill saw him and took one step forward. No way Wilfork was going to tackle him. Wilfork momentum was taking him away from Tannehill. Wilfork had no effect on the throw at all.
     
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  28. mroz

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    He probably does IF he can beat Revis... having said that, Hartline doesnt have the skill set to beat Revis, Hartline would not have been open...
    and
    Didn't Hartline have a drop yesterday?
     
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  29. GARDENHEAD

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    Oronde Gadsden makes that catch.
     
  30. GARDENHEAD

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    Bruce Hardy makes that catch.
     
  31. mroz

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    Let be clear, I don't think Wallace should be making the money he is making. Having said that, there is a huge difference between BIG issues with his contract and if this is the best he can do we are in trouble. One is an off the field issue, the other is an on the field issue. BTW, I will take 1296 yards and 16 TDs from Wallace this year... that would do just fine.
     
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  32. 407PhinFan

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    Absolutely, one of the best nose tackles in the NFL never had any effect on the play at all.
     
  33. mroz

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    Loved me some OG
     
  34. mroz

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    Glad we agree.
    :)
     
  35. ckparrothead

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    Wow I only just realized that Wallace actually fumbled twice in the game. He fumbled on the first play of the 2nd quarter, a wide receiver screen. He wasn't down yet or out of bounds and the ball squirts right out of his hands. He's lucky the ball went out of bounds.
     
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  36. ckparrothead

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    Well that's certainly one (wrong) way to interpret the play.
     
  37. mroz

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    yes he did.. there was one other offensive play that was fumbled out of bounds by someone else as well.
     
  38. ckparrothead

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    Ah so now Tannehill did see him and did try and elude him. Yet Wilfork had no effect on the throw.
     
  39. mroz

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    Been watching the Giants game for about 15 minutes and have seen V Cruz drop two catchable balls.

    I blame Wallace
     
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  40. TooGoodForDez

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    If RT want to make $15-20 mil, he needs to make those throws. Many of those throws, consistently, every week, and not just Wallace but others, with touch, over the top, tight spaces. They are there for taking. Otherwise, forget about the the big payday. Right now he is not doing his job in full, but only partly.
     

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