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Week 2 Opponent - Buffalo Bills

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by PhinFan1968, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    totally, haven't acted confident in the game as a favorite in a long time, a lot of the guys in this team were a part of many games where they didn't step up..

    Better be focused as hell this week in practice and put this win behind them as quickly as possible..

    They haven't won anything yet man, they need to get that, this is where coaching is important..must communicate the message properly to create proper mindset.
     
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  2. dWreck

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    Why don't you win a game before you talk.
     
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  3. byroan

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    You went from losing 24-20 to 33-20. Clearly that's worse.

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  4. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Lol..dumbest post of the season.

    The Phins have had this date circled ...paybacks a *****.
     
  5. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Wow..post game trolls..whod a thun
     
  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    now without Kiko and Byrd..that middle is suspect.
     
  7. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    I can't agree with anyone who said Tannehill played well. He is going to get guys hurt. Constantly throwing behind guys or off target. The Wallace fumble was on Tannehill. He threw the ball so far behind him that he could not get it put away before that nasty lick was laid on him. The Wallace out of bounds TD was on the QB. Just throw the ball IN BOUNDS. He did that same **** all of preseason. We better have better QB play Sunday because I doubt we run like we did against the Pats. Buffalo has all week to figure out how to take advantage of our poor LB situation. If we run 5-2 Sunday with bad LB play, we will be exposed.

    That being said, I like our chances. We need QB play in the top half of the league, not bottom third which is what we just watched.
     
  8. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Philbin/Lazor will NOT let that happen. They know the danger, they both spoke of needing to get better at their pressers.
     
  9. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    The Bills ran the ball to the left side pretty well against the Bears. Not sure if they saw something on that end with the match-up, but they did it. They really did not do much overall as far as running on most of their plays. It was chunk yardage on a play or two that gave their backs good YPC averages. Seemed the same with the passing game.

    Miami, on the other hand, had good runs most of the time: 6 yards here, 8 yards here. Miami just seemed more consistent at running. Maybe that changes with Buffalo and their stout line? We'll see.
     
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  10. Not Since 73

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    Smart man.
     
  11. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Two in a row!
     
  12. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Yep...you see, we don't go into every week expecting other teams to lay down for us while our prissy excuse for a QB throws 5 yard passes all day long. We respect our team's competition and know not to take wins for granted.

    Can you at least see value in that concept?

    Your franchise is not royalty...your owner is a closet D-bag...your HC is an obvious D-bag...and your QB uses a D-bag...

    Your team has straight up OWNED the AFCE for a LONG time...that time is coming to an end...the only people that don't see it are some Pats fans. May not be us taking it, may not be this year, but it sure the hell is sooner rather than later...gravity's a b*tch.
     
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  13. btfu149

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    [video=youtube;WEFv3uLrqJY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEFv3uLrqJY[/video]
     
  14. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Tannehill didn't constantly throw behind guys, and Wallace had time to put it away before he fumbled, but it was definitely a bad throw.

    And the pass Wallace didn't catch in the endzone was inbounds, just should have been further inbounds.
     
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  15. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    I have rewatched the game. I have to respectfully disagree. If that pass was in front of Wallace and not behind him, the ball would have been secured. The placement of the endzone pass was very low percentage. Accuracy was really a problem. I'm not trying to bash Tannehill. He did some good things. I'm just saying that he didn't do enough to win against a team that may take away the run and has a better pass rush. I understand that he is going to have growing pains. As coach Lazor eluded, he better figure it out now. He had a 79 rating and was below average league wide. The interception was a horrible throw.

    I loved the outcome of the game. Can you imagine how hard we will be able to beat if he can put it together? If he continues to play like Sunday, he may not be the one that loses the game, but he certainly is not going to put the team on his back and win it like the great ones do. He just wasn't that good. The tape shows it. The stats show it. He was clearly below average in comparison to everyone else. I will never get used to accepting below average QB play just because we have had a sprinkling of good play since Marino.
     
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  16. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Passer rating = ROFL.
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    I still show the game being a Pick on 5dimes with no juice in either direction. Interesting.

    I expect that will change throughout the week to where Miami is favored.
     
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  18. padre31

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    Other thing is, now both teams will have 2014 film on each other and the chess match will begin.

    I suspect Tannehill will improve esp to Wallace, just hope they don't just feed Wallace
     
  19. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    No ****ing chance this is a let down game. If they hadnt swept is last year..Id be inclined to agree..but theres some angry Phins headed to Buffalo...
     
  20. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    I agree. It clearly does not show all the questionable throws a QB makes in a game. He had a below average game.
     
  21. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    I saw a Pickem today also. Guess it depends on the site.
     
  22. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Ya, but, listening to Lazor, this week's scheme will be nothing like last week's. There's still a few plays from their first drive against Atlanta in the pre-season that we haven't seen repeated.

    I may be giving him too much credit, only one week/win into the season, but I'm firmly on the Lazor bandwagon.

    As long as we don't shank ourselves into a bad early deficit, we should out-scheme/play them throughout the game.
     
  23. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Certainly doesn't show the 4 drops that were dead-on accurate.
     
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  24. Deerless Dice

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    I guarantee Miami will not lose to Thad Lewis a 3rd time.
     
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  25. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    Bet they are licking their chops at our LB play. Guys, I still think we have a great chance to win. Not trying to be Debbie Downer. Just trying to look at what we did good and bad objectively. I just see the Bills as a completely different matchup than Sunday. Bigger test for the Oline and run game. Need better QB play IMO.
     
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  26. Stitches

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    I agree Tannehill did not have a good game, though I'm not sure it was below average. Certainly wasn't above average though.

    And it isn't like I am basing my opinion of the Wallace fumble on watching the play just once either, so just because you rewatched it doesn't give your opinion more validity. Wallace fumbled another ball that he could have secured as well. Could Wallace have had much more opportunity to secure the pass with a better throw? Yes. Did the throw prohibit him from securing the ball though? Not in my opinion.
     
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  27. padre31

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    IIRC, the Bills DC was the one talking smack about Tannehill, one good thing and a huge factor is is not like the Bills have Revis out there, the whole field will be open consistently now

    Honestly, Ellerbe was not that good a player for us, Wheeler either, we would Misi tho
     
  28. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    True. Maybe it was jitters. I'm just saying that he did not have a great game and accuracy was an issue. I'm also saying that two turnovers were his fault. Clean it up and beat Buffalo. Bet that is what he is going to hear all week.
     
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  29. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Agree. This is always a tough-*** game for us. Winning this one would certainly boost my outlook for this season (in the division predictions, I pegged this one as a loss enroute 4-4 in the first half, 6-2 in the second for 10-6).
     
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  30. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    I can respect that. It just looked to me that it took the two steps to get the ball into his bread basket. He had no time to brace himself before getting jacked up. I would have to argue that the percentages of him turning the ball over on that play would have been considerably lower with an accurately placed ball. I blame the QB. That being said, its just an opinion and we all have one. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
     
  31. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    Id say if Tannehill plays better we win. I'm nervous about this game. Now, the next week against the Chiefs, I feel good about. I'm flying down for that one with club seats. Can't wait.
     
  32. TheHighExhaulted

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    Stop the run. Miami wins.
     
  33. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    Contain to some extent. I don't see us stopping it. I do agree with your thoughts though. I think Buffalo is considerably better in the trenches than the Pats. We can't turn the ball over and we have to be better at throwing it.
     
  34. Foreboding

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    This game should tell us a fair amount about our two teams. Really I think that they are pretty similar.

    1. Young QB's with who the entire fan base is hopeful but not yet sure about
    2. Front 7- Both are solid defensive line(s), Bills revamped LB corp with Spikes, slight advantage Mia here
    3. See the same about each O-Line, Bills a little more proven here
    4. Young unproven but promising coaching staffs
    5. Talented but once again, unproven rosters all over both teams
    6. Both capable of winning huge games and then laying an egg the next game

    I think this game in reality is a coin flip and it being close but being won by either team would not surprise.

    Bills home opener, loud as hell, gives the Bills a slight advantage IMO-

    Good luck to both teams.
     
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  35. Bills31

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    Hey guys, Bills fan here. Not looking to cause problems at all, just looking for a good discussion about the big game ahead.

    I think this will be a tight game that comes down to the end, just like our 1st meeting last year.

    If there's any questions you guys have about the Bills (strengths/weaknesses) or whatever it may be feel free to shoot them. Curious to know what are the strengths/weaknesses of the Phins going into this divisional battle.
     
  36. Fin D

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    I think its hard to say what our strengths and weaknesses are, because quite frankly, no one saw that performance coming. Based on that game our strengths are everything and we have no weaknesses other than jitters. That cannot be true though.

    I think the one area I can say for sure is a strength is our dline. At current health its easily one of the best in the league. Other than that, it would not surprise me if every other unit was listed as a strength or as a weakness, until we play more games, because like I said, no one could have honestly predicted that performance so nothing will shock me.
     
  37. jcliving

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    It seems every forum thread and article mention that EJ Manuel was very inconsistent. It sounds like Fred Jackson really pulled out this game. I say load the box and make their QB prove he can beat us.
     
  38. Rick 1966

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    We won't win unless we stop their running game. That's why the state of LB corps scares me. But that's the key...we have to run on them and stop their run. Manuel doesn't scare me.
     
  39. TooGoodForDez

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    I'm not worried about anything Buffalo does. This game is all about us doing our thang.
     
  40. ckparrothead

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    This game will be the test of whether Miami's offensive line had a good game against a bad defensive front, or whether they really are good at run blocking.
     
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