Sounded like all the coaches have taken reaponsibility. Philbin even said it's not fair to blame it all on Tannehill. Like I said. We're going to learn a lot over the next few weeks. Sink or swim.
I agree with all of this. If Philbin remained quiet and stuck with a mediocre Tannehill all year he would be bashed for not having the balls to make a move. If this is his way of sending a message to Tannehill then I`m all for it. Theres plenty of blame to go around on offense ( dropped passes, questionable play calling etc.), but the bottom line is Tannehill is not progressing and he doesnt deserve the head coaches utmost confidence right now.
Well Philbin probably doesn't care if he gets canned, I'm sure Mike McCarthy has been in contact with him and has offered his old job back as a video coordinator if he gets fired (but with the title offensive coordinator just to make Philbin feel important).
Discussions behind closed doors sure. Planning a meeting and letting the media know? lol It's a circus.
Unfortunately I think we already know all we need to about Philbin and a lot of the coaches. Sucks we have a lot of talent tied to them.
It just seems like he needs a committee to do everything (police his locker room, pick a QB). These are pretty basic things for competent coaches. Why does he need a have the input of his subordinates to bench a QB who is the leader of the worst passing attack in the NFL? What is there to discuss? Just bench him and get Moore ready.
Ross should fire philbin in london. Make philbin pay his own way back. This guy is clueless. Might be the worst coach we ever had
35 games into the Philbin era. Please end our misery. I kept giving Joe chances, kept trying to find the positives. There are no more positives to find.
While you might be right, would it be advantegeous for Philbin to just sit back and twiddle his thumbs waiting and hoping Tannehill improves ?
While I want Philbin gone as soon as this season is over. I don't think he is the person who created this QB controversy. It has been the play of Tannehill over the first three games this season and the last two games of the 2013 season which has created this QB controversy. Philbin realizes his job is on the line and I just don't think he has any faith in Tannehill as this teams QB. After Tannehill's last five games, who can blame Philbin for this lack of faith?
If it's not then our organization should be out for blood. There's no room in football for those kind of tmz antics from, "reporters." If Mando gets canned then I'll still consider this season a success. How does that leak if it is true though?
How do we really know Matt Moore is the best player? Aren't you making that assumption...because you have nothing to go on, other then hes the backup QB. Sure Tannehill isnt playing great right now....but whos to say Matt Moore doesnt **** the bed. Then all the sudden you started a big QB controversy ....when you really didnt need to. It sounds to me like Lazor has no doubts as to who the better QB is.
Well, the committee was probably set up by Ross. Ever since Ross has been owner, we've had: 1. The leadership council 2. The committee to stop locker room bullies, I think we hired Curtis Martin to be a part of that committee, which came out of nowhere, what the hell does he do ever since he retired? Anyways... 3. Remember that group he hired from NYU to study locker room behavior, Ross says he will help change the culture of locker rooms of all sports with that research. If I were a reporter I'd ask Ross what ever happened to that. He'd probably stammer a bit and then say, uh what? 4. Now a committee to see if Tannehill should be benched. Committees for everything and everyone! Contact Ross he will set up a committee for your marriage and they will let you know if you should do your wife tonight. This has to be the only team in the league that has this many committees. Once I read the word committee I start to laugh cause I never hear/read that word being reported on any other team message board when they're talking about the next move the owner/front office wants to make.
Why is that an option? You can absolutely keep trying to mold the offense to fit his strengths, do things the players are more comfortable doing, etc. Is that "twiddling your thumbs"? This thinking is a fallacy. It pretends that these were the only two choices. Either create a QB controversy, or do nothing. That's just not correct.
Who knows? I'm sure these guys have their sources. Doesn't mean they're not getting fed false or misleading information though.
Well how many ****ing people need to know about this alleged meeting? Dis-informing to the media serves no purpose either. The whole thing is absolutely ******ed.
Eh, Wannstedt has been to the playoffs before and has actual credentials, he's coached championship defenses in the past which includes the 80's Hurricanes and the Cowboys of the 90's. Philbin is not even good for fixing the offensive line and that's was suppose to be his thing.
What is Philbin suppose to say? Tannehill is not playing well right now. Fair or not, it all boils down to him and the coaches. Geez, you guys act like you would have given a better answer in that situation. Given all of which is surrounding Philbin and the team at the moment, what in the hell is he suppose to say? Seems like Lazor is not being a "good soldier" after all? Looks like he is undermining Philbin?? Please. The media, and some fans, are making a big damned deal out of this. "Lazor is now undermining Philbin." Get a grip. If this team was winning, no one would care. Now everything is magnified because they are losing. Some of these folks are worse than the "reporters" in the Inquirer....
I get what you`re saying , and I`m not the biggest Philbin fan either, but maybe its more apparent to him that Tannehill is not progressing like a 3rd year QB should be. He`s around Tannehill a lot more then we are so maybe he senses its just never going to happen for Tanny. Either that or Philbin is grasping at straws trying to save his own job. I`m pretty torn on the whole situation.
Well...I hate to say this because nobody really wants to hear it.... But coaches actually believe you need more then 3 games to truly evaluate a QB when he is playing in a new system. Hell...Bruce Arians said this just as much....but......falls on deaf ears soooooooo..you get this.
I think it's possible that Philbin believes Matt Moore gives them a better chance to win RIGHT NOW. And Joe Philbin may well be prioritizing 'right now' because his job is on the line. I don't think he's going to bench Tannehill, ultimately (that would be pretty stupid). But I think there's an element of Philbin contemplating whether Moore can indeed win more games in the near future to help his job security, like over the next two months or so.
Sure it does. You don't think an OC gets any sense of how well a QB is doing in his system while he watches him practice? Come on.
*Imagining MM starts ends up leading us to 9-4 record and a wildcard spot. Because fantasy is more palatable than reality sometimes. Of course, if that were to happen, we'd be stuck with Philbin again next year. Double-edged blade..
Really cause Foles just stepped in for Vick and Philadelphia's offense exploded and their entire organization went a full 180 since. Isn't it sad that Philadelphia only had a few years of irrelevance (post McNabb) and now are back to being one of the top teams in the NFC and meanwhile we're headed to two decades of irrelevance? Some quarterbacks have it, some don't.
What I`m saying is if Tannehill has great practices during the week but struggles relentlessly on game days , what are the coaches supposed to do then?
And again....you know better then Bruce Arians because you can name one QB who stepped in just like that
I think we are all mostly willing to see how Ryan progresses in the offense. We can still be discouraged a bit though.
Salguero's perspective: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article2198962.html
He will not be able to distance himself from the kid if that's his intention. This situation isn't due to Ryan Tannehill's performance alone. Many parts of the team have been poor these last two weeks, including playc calling, and when it's so many parts, the coach is to blame.
