there is something of greater importance there...kind of shows why we are so inept and pathetic as an organization. Miami took RT17 and called it a day. Also gave Matt Moore a 2 year 10 mill contract or some crap like that LOL. SEA signed Flynn if I recall and also drafted Wilson. Wash traded the FARM for RG3 but also drafted Cousins. PHI drafted Foles while having Vick. NE drafted Mallet while having Brady. NE drafted Garropola while having Brady. Miami? ... Well, WELCOME TO MIAMI! you know the story.
Name one QB that Miami drafted before the 5th round between Scott Mitchell and Chad Henne. I can't think of one. Through numerous orginizations, the team simply hasn't chosen to EVER spend a valuable pick on a QB other than very recently.
I've said this before, I really admired the way the Seahawks continued addressing the QB situation until they got it right. They had spent picks on Charlie Whitehurst, spent $$$ on Matt Flynn, but draft Russell Wilson, as you stated. You make a decent point. The good teams aren't afraid to quickly move on from mistakes and continue spending resources on the position until they find their guy. The problem in Miami is Ryan Tannehill showed a lot of promise last season. He wasn't enough of a failure to indicate Miami should have spend more resources on the position. Could they have drafted a mid round guy to push Tannehill? I don't think it would have been a terrible idea, but I don't think you can fault them for not doing that.
I do fault them because Brady is a HOFer and they spent high picks on QBs. RG3 costed the FARM and they drafted Cousins. That was the point I was trying to make. Rt17 showed promise but also showed the same signs from college, he is robotic, can't create, sucks with deep ball accuracy, and always has been leaving points on the field. Some things can be changed via coaching and some can't. Vision, accuracy, ability to see the game slowly aren't coachable, you have it or you don't. He never did and never will.
not really a fair comparison with New England. When you are a periennial superbowl contender, you can afford to keep spending picks on a QB, we have been deficient on so many fronts for awhile (20 years). Having said that, I don't disagree. doubling up on the most important position in the NFL can't hurt.
well one reason why i used NE is because that day will end and they know it, Brady is 38 so they invest into the FUTURE and have a plan "B" miami doesn't. and 2) they have LOTS of holes on that team, its brady and belli keep them afloat. that roster is very very average
um, miami did double up on the position moore is here. many people feel moore is better than RT17 so... what is the point of this thread?
Moore? wasn't aware he was a long term solution. People don't draft QBs in round 2 to have them as a career backup journeyman. LOL
Especially now with the cap limitations on high draft picks; we should be failing forward fast come draft day.
Seahawks pretty much did the real world of banking on the lottery. They just won. If Wilson didn't turn out they would be a team with scrub quarterbacks still.
White was drafted for the WC only. Does't count he wasn't brought here to be a franchise QB but a stupid scat back
That is kind of true. however you have to believe if Pat White ran a highly efficient offense, that he would have been made the starter.
What's long term these days? Because if it's 35 games or more, then that's how much long-term we've wasted with the Ryan Tannehill experiment.
Well, thats true. I think that I'm blocking the memory of Beck out of my mind. Still, thats only one year before Henne. Something like 17 years between taking a QB to develop.
I dont think so... lots of people around here were very high on Wilson. I remember people saying Kuechly 1 Wilson 2. Imagine if we had done that? Wait...dont bother. We'd be in approximately the same position now. Part of Wilsons success is the team and system and coaches around him. I'm not sure that the "right" quarterback sees much success with the way things are right now anyway...Wilson, Luck, Cousins, Foles, etc. Short of Manning running the show anyway. Sure someone like Luck or MAYBE Wilson could still maybe drag our *** to the playoffs every year, but after the last 5 games and a simple 2 good quarters of football, I'm starting to fall into the "sky is falling" court. We have bigger problems than just QB play. Granted, QB play might not be HELPING, but its far from the biggest thing hurting us.
They were so high on Wilson that he fell to the third round. Also, that seems like a freak year. When else has their been a quarterback draft where a bunch of quarterbacks who are taken passed the first round plays well? I agree, the problem is much bigger than QB play. The problem is coaching. Philbin is not head coaching material.
Wilson did fall to the 3rd round but several of us on here did want him in round 2 and I do think he'd be better than RT on any team - largely because he has great field awareness and takes over the team. That is what impressed Carroll immediately - and why he became a starter when they had basically planned for Flynn to be the starter but Wilson blew them away. There were doubts about Wilson for only one single reason: his height (5'11). Otherwise, he was viewed as a 1st round calibre talent.
If they were high on Wilson they would have drafted him in the first round. You don't mess with quarterback.
