I thought it was a good point when you brought it up in the other thread, essentially he's in unprecedented territory relative to his history and transition. However, he's just got to have the sense to do other things while he's learning, you can't just sit and wait for it to click, be proactive, just freakin run and see what happens..
This article sounds very familiar to what several posters here have also stated. Other experts/league professionals have stated the same. But anybody here who says the same is aqua-goggled homers.
Another poster here said the same thing. This is literally the 2nd offense he's had to learn his entire football career. It's going to take more than 5 months to transition into the new system.
I get all the " it takes time" talk about developing into a quality QB. But, by now we should have a better feeling about Tannehill being the answer or not. Even now we simply don't know what`s going to become of his NFL career and by now we should have a better idea.. Its not the adjusting to a different system that concerns me, its the overall intangibles that he just hasn't shown so far.
Tanne's problems to me are not system based. I don't even have a big issue with his "placement" this year, bc I think everyone misses throws. His problems are what DJ has laid out many times... Not feeling the pocket and extending plays, awareness, etc. He would be a much better QB with literally everything else being the same, but him either extending the play by moving the pocket or escaping the pocket altogether.
I think we're essentially seeing the "rookie QB" play we would've seen year one, had he been introduced to a new offense that year. However, I think we're still seeing issues, like the ones you point out, that were there even in the offense with which he had been familiar, and that's what's problematic and not a good sign in my opinion. There is also the point to be made that quarterbacks like Russell Wilson and Nick Foles were introduced to new offenses earlier in their NFL careers, and seemed to acclimate and perform much better. I think the problem is that Quinn is right, that Tannehill is indeed acclimating to a new offense, but I think that acclimation on his part interacts with specific weaknesses of his, and makes him play worse than a QB who doesn't have those weaknesses but is similarly acclimating to a new offense. In other words, Quinn is focused on the "situational" explanation for Tannehill's play, while underemphasizing the "dispositional" ones (i.e., Tannehill's individual abilities). Rather than being an "either-or" in that regard, it's likely instead a "both."
I think the transition is a valid reason why he's been slow starting. My concern is that we are 3 years into RTH's tenure at Miami and this is the 3rd different excuse that's been made for him. Year 1 it was WR's. Year 2 it was OL. Now it's his offensive syste. What will it be in year 4? New Head Coach? I would love nothing more for the lights to turn on with him but I just don't see it. He doesn't appear to feel the game in terms of pressure, timing and reading a defense. His accuracy and footwork could be impacted by different timing but it just doesn't seem like he has the "IT" factor.
maybe not. But he does have the "Im pretty good" factor. I know, set your sights higher, aim for the best, blah blah. That's not that easy to find. Im cool with bringing in someone to compete with Ryan, go for Mariota, but wouldn't at all be shocked if Ryan then outplayed that person either.
Interesting... He also cites the Oline and the receiver drops. It still appears that the game still hasn't slowed down enough for Tannehill, and that he thinks too much and doesn't play instinctively... or his instincts are just bad... Quinn does make some good points, but doesn't address that some of the things we're not happy with Tannehill about have been with him since College and are still here 3 years later, regardless of the old or new offense, or the play of the OLine, receivers, and TEs...
Dude plays well in crucial down and distances, which leads to wins, which leads to playing in bigger games, for which he plays well in... You can design an offense to be effective around his overall skillset..read option, extending play talent, good run game, strong arm.
Hopefully, once Tannehill starts getting more comfortable in the offense, he can start improving on some of the bad habits he has had for his whole career. If all this happens, he might still not make it to Hawaii, but this team would be good enough to get to the playoffs.
Let him run more, think less and use what talents he does have while he adjusts? Who are you talking to Mr DJ.......the same coach staff who thinks they should develop Dion Jordans "pass rush moves" by making him into a DE, the one who honors first and foremost, a running back's ability to block, or worse, the staff that escapes all blame by throwing players under the "execution" bus? Hahahahaha....oh, wait, no...:-(
Tannehill does seem like he was thinking too much the first 3 weeks, he seemed hesitant at times and downright rattled at other times. The receivers and him didn't seem to be on the right page either. You could attribute a lot of that to everyone learning a new offense, its possible but I don't like excuses, they had an entire offseason and preseason, they should have been ready for the regular season. Although if you look at the NY Giants and Eli, they seem to be going through the same thing and seemed to break out of their funk this week, hopefully we did the same against Oakland today.
It's not an excuse...it's a reason. Many NFL coaches/experts agree you can't expect them to really hit their stride until about half a season. Anything faster is bonus.
Its an excuse when the teams we got hammered by were KC and Buffalo, they aren't that good. I'm not saying we should be 4-0 and averaging 40pts a game but that two game stretch was a lot more than a team learning a new offense. Also the coaching mishaps and bad play calling really aren't attributed to the team learning a new offense. The defense shouldn't be having the issues either. Special teams has been awful as well. I get the point of the article and agree for the most part I just think if you start using it as an excuse as a team you are probably going to have a hard time improving.
Luckily, as a fan, I don't need to worry about all that crap...the coaches do. I'm sure they're not spouting they won't look good until halfway through the season...but it's real, whether you like it or not.
You're forgetting the fact that we were missing our starting C (who is a pro bowler), along with a starting LB, Safety and RB. If you add that to the problems of a team learning a new offense and a whole new starting OL facing a dominant DL in Buffalo and a respectable one in KC and you get those two terrible performances. I'm not excusing the losses, nor Tannehill and the coaches, by the way, just stating how I don't see this start to the season as unfathomable by any means. We are still 2-2 with a good chance of improving... we get back Pouncey, Moreno and Jones next game, probably Misi as well. The offense has this game to build off of, and the bye week to keep improving. I think we are on our way up.
