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Vernon Gholston

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by alen1, Dec 23, 2007.

  1. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I was wondering to who does Gholston compare most to right now in the NFL? I want us to take him with the first overall pick and wanted to hear some of your comments on him. Do you guys think he compares to Kamerion Wimbley of the Browns? If not, who and why? Thanks
     
  2. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Demarcus Ware.
     
  3. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think he's a cross between DeMarcus Ware and Shawn Merriman.
     
  4. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Im fine with that as long as he isnt on those roids like merriman
     
  5. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Ya know...he's SO big that i'd be lieing if i said it wasn't a concern of mine.
     
  6. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    ^ lol yeah god i hope hes not on them, i will be sooo dissapointed.
     
  7. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    On November 3, 2007, Gholston tied two Ohio State team records for quarterback sacks in a game when he dropped Wisconsin QB Tyler Donovan four times for a total loss of 32 yards. Two weeks later he recorded three sacks against the Michigan Wolverines to lead Ohio State to its fourth consecutive win over the Wolverines. Gholston tied the Buckeye record of 13 sacks in a single season set in 1995 by Mike Vrabel.[2]

    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Gholston

    interesting and impressive
     
  8. sweeper

    sweeper New Member

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    he is very impressive and woudlnt mind goin back 3 spots n picking him up wiht an extra pick.
     
  9. s55ean

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    an dthat's why jake long won't be considered :lol: but seriously, how many sacks did he allow this game does anyone know ? just curious
     
  10. padre31

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    Julious Peppers or Merriman...tall athletic and relentless.....

    Compared this youtube video vs Dorsey beating a freshman Auburn Guard:


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yot9ClPvZDg[/ame]

    He blew past two NFL players of the future, as a sophomore....the guy is freak....:ffic:

    BTW THAT is how a #1 overall pick is supposed to play, as if he is surrounded by inferiors, go and take the play...this guy is good...
     
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  11. Danny

    Danny New Member

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    is not easy to move down and I don't see us taking him at 1.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  12. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Parcells was responsible for drafting DeMarcus Ware wasnt he? Parcells seems to like these big athletic hybrid guys. And honestly, if hes as good as Ware we will have an unqualified success at #1.

    Right now I think we have to be looking at Gholston, Dorsey and Chris Long. All three of these guys look really impressive right now.

    BTW, have a friend whos a Michigan fan and says Jake Long gets blown up alot more than youd expect from a supposedly top rated tackle. I really think he is a guy whos stock could fall.
     
  13. miami234ever

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    I actually like the Vrabel and Gholston comparison. If we could somehow trade down to the #3 or #4 spot, I would LOVE to have him on this team. And after these last few weeks, I think Jason Taylor's value has risen and we could get some good value for him. A first is not out of the question for JT right now. He's motivated, wants a ring, and is still playing at an extremely high level.
     
  14. CitizenSnips

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    why would a team who has the talent to win a ring give up that high a pick for him? And he certainly wouldn't be motivated to play for a bad team, because he's been a cancer in our locker room this year, i doubt another poor team wants him right now.

    Problem with Taylor is, he's put the dolphins in a terrible position with him. It's clear he wants to leave, he's going to be 34, and he's been a bad leader this year. Yes, he's playing like hes valued for first, but no way will we get it.
     
  15. sweeper

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    bad leader? wow relax bro. i woulda walked out on this team claling them all losers and the coach for his play calling had i been JT. sorry buddy but when ur an athlete and u put ur heart into this darn game and u have ppl like holliday laughing after a loser can't catch an INT ull start to get pissed off as well especially when ur losing evrey game. if uve been there ud understand waht hes goin thru if u haven't then it leads to posts like tthat taht u just posted.
     
  16. miami234ever

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    We can get a first for Jason Taylor. He could end up going to a middle of the pack team like a Carolina or something. And I'm sure you know he's been a cancer in our locker room since you've been in there with him and heard him right? Stop acting like he's the worst person on our team. You would be mad too if you were in his position so don't act like he's some huge cancer killing our team. Let the guy play for a decent team, since he deserves it. When we can get a 2nd and 7th for Welker, a 2nd for Chambers (who had 0 TDs while on the Dolphins), a 6th for Olindo freakin Mare, I'm going to say we can easily get a 1st for Taylor.
     
  17. CitizenSnips

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    When your getting paid several million dollars to be on this team, to dawn the jersey and play the game, you should never undermine your coach. Our coach is a moron, as fans we know this. But there are 51 other men on this team (im excluding Thomas) that look to Taylor to say all the right things, to support the coach and lead them. That "C" on his jersey means he has to watch what he does and say. The coaches are not good, we all know this, but they could have done more for this team if the players respected them more. But the players, IE TAYLOR, didn't even give some of them a chance.
     
  18. RoninFin4

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    Tressel runs a pretty tight ship as far as that stuff is concerned. Now, soliciting prostitues, free cars, taking almuni $, well, Clarett, Troy Smith, and Antonio Hinton are as far as you have to look. Gholston seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, but I'll knock on wood in case.
     
  19. houtz

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    Isn't this why many people join the VIP to avoid ignorant remarks like this?


    There isn't a thing about your statement that holds any kind of credibility.
     
  20. CitizenSnips

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    explain the ignorance? He's been pretty vocal for his lack of support with Cameron. Thats certainly not what a good leader does. And notice i didn't say a word about his play, cause taylors been awesome this year. But it doesnt change the fact that hes 34 either.
     
  21. RoninFin4

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    I've seen you post this several times, just curious as to why you don't see it? Nothing personal, just curious. I'd be happy w/Long, Dorsey or Gholston, but I just don't see Long being able to play the hybrid 3-4 DE and OLB, nor do I see Dorsey to be dominant in the 3-4 system the way he is as an UT in the 4-3 at LSU. I do notice that Parcells has had a penchant for those big, pass-rushing LBs (LT, McGinest, Ware, etc.), hence why I think Gholston would fit best in this system especially if teamed across form Porter and perhaps eventually Moses much like Vrabel and A. Thomas or Phillips and Merriman.
     
  22. funkdat

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    Sweeper, sometimes in life all you can do is laugh.That play was insain,,,,,,,

    What kind of fan are you to call a guy that plays for your team a "loser".That guy was making plays and playing good ball here two years ago,then he came back when we needed him.

    If you were JT lol,,,,funk,,, thank god your not.What you said you'd do is what a " loser" would do.
     
  23. mmikel30

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    i would trade crowder
     
  24. sweeper

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    my friend u dono how the game works. clearly i can tell u aren't an athlete or played in an ogranized sport. like u said he is gettin paid millions to do this n that n lead n not talk bla bla bla but aren't hte others getting paid millinos to PLAY and TRY to WIN rather then ASMILE during LOSES and not CARE? wait a minute...i smell a bit of horse doo doo in the air. Sorry buddy but if im the captain on this team and u dont play nor care to play id call u out n if u continue id throw ur name out to the media not handle it the way he is. Ive been on teams with ppl taht just dont acre to play or do care to play but dont have the attitude to take it to the next level and they always get called out especially if they are on my team.

    They are GROWN MEN they dont need to watch JT and have him MOTIVATE THEM and for him to be a LEADER they alreayd know HE IS THE LEADER and after 8 weeks he sees losers playing like crap he goes off on them which i respect. thats why i wish TO was on this team, he'd RIP THEIR ARSES Off just like saban did his 1st year half way thru the season.
     
  25. sweeper

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    wht play was insane? oo b/c he plays for my team i should call him a god lke half the other ppl on this board? sorry buddy i dont believe in DENIAL. who was here 2 yrs ago n was making plays? i dono what on earth you are talking bout their buddy.

    If i were JT id have asked to Organization to get rid of these losers somethign that hsoudl have been done a long time ago but when u dont have a big mouth behind this TEAM inside and out thats what u get...ppl that are satisfied with a multi mill pay check and a BJ at the end of the nite.
     
  26. Boomer

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    Gholston has to.........HAS to.........be in the #1 pick mix. If you think he's DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman and God knows, he has the skill set, then you have to take him at 1. The ceiling on him is massive. Massive.

    The team likes Jake Long, but it has to come down to Gholston, Chris Long and Dorsey.
     
  27. MadLib

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    At this point, I would almost be disappointed if we were to not select Gholston as the top pick. I'm sure after the combine when scouts get to marvel at his 4.5 40 and freak strength he'll get thrown into the top pick discussion. Outside of this board im not seeing anybody mentioning him as the potential #1 overall.
     
  28. RoninFin4

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    Nice to know my thoughts are finally backed by a draft guru around these parts. Boomer, you think he's coming early? For that matter, myself being a Buckeye fan, what's your prognosis on Malcolm Jenkins and James Laurinaitis if you don't mind me asking?
     
  29. big0mar

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    if you dont think there are atleast a few dolphins that have used performance enhancing drugs, you are naive

    steroids and especially HGH are a reality of today's NFL
     
  30. Boomer

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    I think he HAS to come out. He will.

    Jenkins I think is a safety, Laurinatis is a very fine player, a top 10 pick. Jenkins should go in 1.
     
  31. RonnieBrown23

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    I hope we get ghoulston. hes a great player
     
  32. Desides

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    You don't think Ryan Clady would be in the mix?
     
  33. adamprez2003

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    Its weird but I like Otah and Clady more than Long but it seems the consensus that Long is locked into that number one lineman drafted slot.
     
  34. Desides

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    He plays for Michigan, that's why.
     
  35. adamprez2003

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    LOL. You're probably right.
     
  36. funkdat

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    Sweeper, i was talking about Lance Schulters not picking off Tom.That was an insain play, cuzz it looked like he had it all the way.

    What i was saying,,, then and now.Is that you can't call Lance Schulters a loser off of one play.Or call Vonnie Holliday a loser cuzz he didn't act the way you want him to.

    I understand where you are coming from i do, but it's a very " i'm young and still trying to figer sh@t out point of view" But yo dog' i feel ya i do lol, peace!!!
     
  37. big0mar

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    i wouldnt be surprised at all if Long isn't the first OL taken.

    this is how it usually plays out; players from big schools are rated at the top during the regular season in order to boost ratings. Once the media isn't broadcasting games for michigan, ohio state, lsu, florida, etc. theyll stop riding the popular names so hard

    but at that point, theyll start riding the guys from the lesser known schools. theyll refer to these guys as 'rising up the boards fast'.

    and its really hard to avoid this. even if you go to the small, independent draft websites, so much of what they see is determined by what is televised, what is popular, etc. It is very hard to get a good composite of what the draft will look before the season ends
     

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