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Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Jt0323, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    So you were wrong a lot before 2012. No big deal. :p
     
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    don't leave us hanging. What kind of option? A quadruple reverse bomb with a hook and ladder?
     
  3. RGF

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    Very seldom am I serious. I`m a Dolphins fan, a sense of humor is a requirement to keep the sanity in check.
     
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  4. RGF

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    I`ve been wrong for many years prior to 2012, please don't sell me short. Being wrong is one of the few things I do right.
     
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  5. cuchulainn

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    No thinking required about that.
     
  6. Rocky Raccoon

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  7. McLovin

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    please keep this stuff in the mains.. :shifty:
     
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  8. ToddPhin

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    Why the f*** is Roger Goodell interrupting normal television to give a speech about domestic violence? His place is on NFLN and ESPN, not daytime television.

    If the nation suddenly feels it imperative to send a public message about the intolerance of domestic violence, the f***ing President of the United States should be delivering it, not an employee of the NFL. Furthermore, what makes Ray Rice's wife and Adrien Peterson's kids so special to incite such an immediate outcry? What about the vast multitude of women and children who have been getting the s*** beaten out of them for years without the nation putting its foot down? Where was their public support?

    OH NOZ, Peterson's kid gets cuts on his leg from a switch!! The nerve of Adrian! The inhumanity! The detestability! Such criminal heinousness requires immediate attention! "Roger Goodell, this nation NEEDS YOU ASAP!!!! You are the face of this apparently new phenomenon, not the country's President, not the First Lady, not any other special governmental official, but you sir! Now I know what you're thinking, Roger- eighty percent of this country has no idea who the f*** you are!! But that's besides the point. YOU'RE the chosen one, the arbiter and iron fist for child and spousal safety and protection! Everyone will listen to! You're influence is second to none! We need YOU sir to end this insanity before its contagiousness is spread rampant through our streets and into the millions of homes of all those not related to the NFL before it's too late!"

    Meanwhile, 15,000 children unrelated to the NFL were killed during abuse the past decade. Apparently all those kids didn't matter nor deserve national attention support because their their fathers weren't public figures. AP's kid gets a mild lashing and now it's suddenly the worst thing since the Holocaust.
     
  9. McLovin

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    Shut up todd
     
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  10. Ohio Fanatic

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    I get your rant and mostly agree with it...but, this whole mess is actually really good exposure for the domestic violence issue. If this whole fiasco manages to raise awareness, even by a smidge, then it's worth every second of hyperactive media coverage. think about it, football the top medium in the country and plays to the common people, the ones with higher probability for getting themselves into these situations.
     
  11. ToddPhin

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    I understand that part, and if it raises awareness then that's great, but why is Roger Goodell the one interrupting regular television to deliver a breaking message on domestic violence? That's not his place. Heck, he's the one who was light on domestic violence to begin with.

    Domestic violence doesn't stem from the NFL. Adrian Peterson didn't whip his kid because the NFL influenced him to. Ray Rice didn't hit his wife because the NFL taught him to. Kids don't grow up to become abusers because of the NFL. So if there's gonna be a face of change thrown at us, it shouldn't be Goodell, IMO.
     
  12. Jt0323

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    I hate getting scammed, I can spot a scam a mile away, wish I can say the same for my dad. He told me that a landscaper approached him about fixing his back yard for $1,000, basically extend the bricks, take out the rocks and install grass. I told him it sounds to good to be true, and a scam. He didn't believe me, gave him $800 already, half for the job, and 300 for supplies. Well he was suppose to come monday, and its Wednesday and he tried to call him and the phone is deactivated. I hate people who try and scam people. I hope Karma catches up with this guy, or I run into him. Last thing my parents need right now with my mom being sick.
     
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    Mom finished her 12th round of chemo. Her markers jumped from 5 to 12. They are going to try a different type I guess. What worries me is my mom asked the doctor about making it to my brothers wedding (like 2 years away, ) they asked if he could move it up. Little scary
     
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    **** dude, sorry to hear that! Keep positive, and tell her to stay strong, keep fighting. This battle has been won before, and will be again!
     
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  15. Colorado Dolfan

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    Wish you and yours the best. Keep up the fight!
     
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  16. ToddPhin

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    Is she doing any alternative therapy in conjunction with the chemo?... like naturalistic stuff?
     
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    not yet. Shes going to get a cat scan next week to see where she stands and possibly start up another type of chemo. It could be that her body is getting immune to the current chemo now, which is what i am hoping. Her tumor markers dropped from a 12 to a 10 after she got more test last night
     
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  18. Fin D

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    **** that & **** cancer. Doctors are wrong all the time about cancer patient life spans.

    Your mom and your family need to look at that as the doctor issuing a challenge that you guys will far exceed.

    She needs to be like, I'll see your two years and raise you 20 mother ****er. Bring it the hell on!
     
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  19. Rocky Raccoon

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    Keep pushing along JT. Don't give up, your mom will keep fighting. Nothing but positive thoughts, brother.
     
  20. ToddPhin

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    Dude she NEEDS to be partnering her medical treatment with natural treatment, no ifs ands or buts about it. If she doesn't already have a list of stuff to take, let me know. Cancer can only thrive and proliferate in an acidic environment. Part of her treatment needs to involve getting her body's PH into a cancer-unfriendly state, and chemo doesn't accomplish that.
     
  21. Ohio Fanatic

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    First, JT, sorry to hear the bad news. best wishes to your mom.

    Have to be careful about making any generalizations about cancer - i.e. there really are no generalizations. Not only are there a huge number of different cancers that are very different from each other with respect to response to treatments, but even within the same types of cancer, there are dramatic differences depending on either the mutations within that cancer cell line (lead to resistance to treatments) or what part of the signaling pathway has gone crazy to initiate the particular cancer.

    As far the acidic argument, from what I've read, that's probably more applicable to preventing cancer rather than affecting it once it's present. Also, many of the advertised ways to alter the body pH have zero effect. The human body has a pretty amazing buffering system to counter what you throw at it. Having said that, maintaining a healthy - probiotic type of diet can only help your immune system when you're that sick. If eating less acidic foods has a positive effect on your microbiome, then it certainly can't hurt while you're undergoing the extremely nasty chemotherapy. In general, something everyone should be striving for, not just sick people.
     
  22. ToddPhin

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    You might wanna do a little more reading and researching WADR. If JT listened to your post and ignored mine because of it, you just made his mother's fight against cancer that much harder. Do you want her cancer spreading to nearby unhealthy cells that make perfect hosts for the disease? Do you want her blood and cells not properly oxygenated to support an aerobic environment conducive for cell health, absorption of nutrients, and detoxification? Would you want his mother's cancer to recur after effective chemo because her blood, system, and cell health aren't optimally reestablished?

    Firstly, the acidic argument is incredibly important to fighting cancer, including the facts that oxygen & pH go hand in hand and that cancer can't live in an oxygen rich environment. And yes, here are a handful of effective ways to improve blood pH. Cancer grows in an acidic environment, and there's a reason for it. Acidosis inhibits proper oxygenation and impairs both cell health and the cell's ability to eliminate toxins, thus allowing acid waste and toxicity to build up and pollute cells and blood. Not to mention cancer produces lactic acid to further increase acidity and make it all the easer for it to grow and metastasize. Our cells can be quite resilient. Rather than dying off because the body isn't providing what they need to survive as an aerobic cell, some of these cells adapt and, for all intents and purposes, turn themselves into single-celled anaerobic organisms capable of living separately from the body off glucose fermentation and unassociated with brain functioning and DNA memory. This glucose fermentation produces lactic acid and is also the primary source of energy for disease and parasites. These malignant cells either grow uncontrolled at their own rate [cancer] or they provide a perfect host for cancer, other disease, and parasites to take up residence in. It's a perfect example of survival of the fittest.... nature's way to eliminate the unhealthy. The great thing about our bodies, however, is they don't protect these separate cells from oxidation like they do their own healthy cells. Humans have the capability to load up on antioxidant rich foods and quality, high ORAC supplements to eliminate free radicals and provide our healthy cells the protective coating to fight oxidation, meaning- we can take supplements that oxygenate our system, including the unstable, reactive, single molecules of oxygen that target these alien cells and anything living in them without damaging our healthy cells.

    Secondly, cancer isn't just programmed to commence at a certain time in each person's life like an alarm clock. 21st century humans have become magnificent at creating an ideal environment, both external and internal, for cancer to develop and proliferate. If there are underlying causes creating the cancer, then those need to be addressed to prevent the cancer from beating the chemo or recurring. Chemo kills the result [the cancer] but it doesn't solve the underlying problem, which is frequently health-related involving unhealthy cells, acidosis, and a poorly oxygenated environment. Natural measures must be taken to fix this, and powerful health supplements paired with a proper nutritious diet can repair cell health, protect cells from invasion, detoxify and remove waste, restore PH, cleanse the blood, and return the body to a proper aerobic state. Have you actually seen the blood of a diseased person and how dark and polluted it looks compared to healthy blood? Yes, the human body does have a pretty amazing buffering system to counter what you throw at it, which is exactly what I'm talking about taking advantage of, so why are you arguing against it? However, this buffering system needs the appropriate resources to work, and lacking the resources and thus not allowing the buffering system to do its job is why most people get ill and diseased in the first place. Now, the buffering system won't counteract your attempt to raise the PH as you presume. If the PH is already low, then the body WANTS to restore itself to a proper PH, so all you're doing is providing it the ammo to do so.

    Thirdly, the institutions out there spreading disinformation about PH and so forth [like the examples below] should be shot.
    This stuff is such bull**** it's ridiculous!! If the body's PH were so tightly regulated and it were nearly impossible to alter blood pH, cancer patients wouldn't have such low pH's, with terminal patients sometimes being 1000 times lower than normal. If the body's pH can be altered from poor health, disease, a bad diet, and so on, then it can be restored just as well. I know for a fact pH can be altered/improved because I've done it myself and saw the blood work to prove it. The notion of not using anything that hasn't been tested in a scientifically controlled setting and systematic way is ridiculous as well. That's a scare tactic by hospitals, the AMA, and Big Pharma who don't want the public becoming healthier and sure as hell don't want the public investing money in natural health means at the expense of their own greedy pockets. The corrupt FDA and AMA intentionally spend zero time doing studies on natural products because there's no money in it for them and because it's against the best interest of Big Pharma, the cartel responsible for fattening their pockets, and every health product/supplement they choose not to study is one they can continue saying "isn't supported" by any study. The only studies they do do are ones meant to figure out ways to alter natural substances by a hair so they can f***ing patent them.
     
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  23. ToddPhin

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    yes, I've dealt with a similar issue, Trav. People change and mature at different rates, and perhaps you've endured stuff in ways they haven't that made you examine life and the importance of things in ways they haven't. You and your group of old friends are approaching that age where your true identities should be emerging and the commonality that previously held the group together will be changing for some of you as well as you find new things that interest you, as you grow bored with old stuff, as your priorities change, and as your outlook on life changes. If you're no longer playing sports together, picking up chicks together, and whatnot, then there's gotta be something new to maintain the bond, and I'm guessing for them that "something new" is being married, while you're left on the outside looking in.
     
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  24. Fin D

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    Have you actually tried talking to them about it?
     
  25. Fin D

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    Its real simple...just try it anyway. Friends worth keeping will understand, friends not worth keeping won't. For all you know, some of them feel exactly like you do, and just like you haven't brought it up.

    Travis, life can be difficult, but it is NEVER complicated. The avenue you have to take is really easy to see, it just may be tough to actually try. So.....stop being a ***** and be the friend you want others to be to you.
     
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    FinD,

    I've been meaning to have a conversation with you.

    You see, I think we have grown apart. Sure we had fun playing kickball together as kids but in the past few years you seem to be getting drunk way to often, and you are always making jokes when I try to have a mature conversation with you.

    So basically FinD you are dead to me.

    Sincerely,
    bigbry
     
  27. ToddPhin

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    lol
     
  28. Fin D

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    What a relief.

    I was feeling guilty for banging your mom and sister.

    Sincerely,
    102-3 record in kickball over you
     
  29. Rocky Raccoon

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    I have a similar issue. I don't have a lot in common with my friends at all. We have inside jokes and stuff, but my core beliefs and passions don't sync up with them.

    However, we have been friends for years and we still have fun together when we hang out. Now that I have a girlfriend, she's the one I go to for deep, personal conversations and advice and I'm fine with that.

    That doesn't mean my friends don't have a place in my life, they do, and they do in yours as well. Sure, they'll do and say things that piss you off but in the end, you have many years of memories with them, and I'm sure if you were to go to one of them with a serious issue, they'd help you the best they could.
     
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  30. Ohio Fanatic

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    Wow, way to blow the response out of proportion Todd.

    First, I did not state that the acidity argument was false. I said eating a healthier diet, that does correspond with less acidic foods, will only help your immune system when fighting something like cancer. I also said that it will likely have a stronger effect to prevent cancer rather than treating it.

    and secondly, you shouldn't believe everything written on the internet and your anti-pharma rant is ridiculous. you clearly don't have a real understanding of how the system (as bad as it is) works. I love hearing the criticism of big pharma (much of which is justified) but yet I don't see people criticizing all the "studies" on the internet for products where companies are clearly promoting natural products based on peoples fears for one simple reason - to make lots of money.

    1) pharma doesn't work on natural products for one simple reason, they can't patent natural products. it's a simple thing known as prior art. research is insanely expensive. if there's no hope to generate revenue off your research, then no company is going to work on it. and they don't work on "altering natural substances by a hair so they can f***ing patent them". that's not how patent law works. altering them "by a hair" doesn't provide novelty that is patentable.

    2) for the few companies that are willing to tackle natural product derivatives, like epothilone, the cost of goods of just making the material, due to extensive # of synthetic steps, is so high that it's cost prohibitive. I spent almost 4 years, working 80+ hours a week to make 1 single natural product that had remarkable anti-cancer properties. I ended up with 2 milligrams at the end. the natural products that are simple in structure are already well established and tend to be more useful for fungicides, pesticides, herbicides. the oncolytics come from marine natural products. to make these on a scale that is useable by the population, you'd have to charge 10x the normal oncolytics, which are already insanely priced. we're talking at least 1/2 a million per person. the goal of any company, big or small, is to find new, simple chemical matter that can have the same effect as the large, complex natural products at a fraction of the cost of goods.

    3) the pharma industry is absolutely desperate (understatement) for any new treatments that can improve patients' lives. there is no conspiracy to keep people unhealthy. that's absurd, really ludicrous. The companies that find new treatments are the ones that reap the biggest profits. If there was a treatment out there for a type of cancer, every pharma company would pay out the nose to get to it first. why? because big pharma has been deteriorating for the last 15 years because they can't find enough new drugs to keep their shareholders happy. the entire industry is collapsing. the only hope left is that the small biotechs and midsize biotechs can stay alive long enough to come up with new treatments before big pharma buys them out and fires their employees. I work for a company that is still fairly small that has managed to cure hepatitis C and doubled and tripled the lifespan of people with cystic fibrosis.

    The FDA is not the friend of scientific research, they make it 1 million times harder to get a drug approved, as they should. They are trying to protect the people from companies advancing drugs that aren't safe enough. now, does that mean really important treatments that are borderline might not make it to the market, certainly. there are currently over 2000 clinical trials ongoing for oncology indications. that's billions, if not hundreds of billions of dollars being spent to try to find the next good treatment for cancer. most of these trials will fail miserably for the simple reason that even if they show an effect in these patients, the safety window is so minimal that there's no net beneficial effect.

    4) back to the cancer argument. again, I'm not arguing against a healthier lifestyle, because I do agree that every little bit helps. changing the microenvironment around a tumor does have some effect, but the tools that cancer cells have to survive in almost any environment are vast to say the least. You can shut down one pathway for cancer cells to propagate, they will simply find another way. The majority of tools that exist, whether its radiation, chemotherapy or homeopathic all have their uses to stop the tumor from growing, or in some cases, actually shrink the tumor down to nothing. I'm a firm believer that all three should be used in combination. but there's a reason cancer usually comes back, it's called cancer stem cells. All it takes is a few of these stem cells to hide away in tissues resistant to current therapies (think of an analogy with a super drug resistant bacteria, only takes a few cells to eventually come back and kick your ***). the companies that are still doing real research are trying everything they can to find a way to attack these cancer stem cells. if they are successful, not only will they have a huge impact on the disease, but they will also make huge profits at the same time.
     
  31. Ohio Fanatic

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    Wow, way to blow the response out of proportion Todd.

    First, I did not state that the acidity argument was false. I said eating a healthier diet, that does correspond with less acidic foods, will only help your immune system when fighting something like cancer. I also said that it will likely have a stronger effect to prevent cancer rather than treating it.

    and secondly, you shouldn't believe everything written on the internet and your anti-pharma rant is ridiculous. you clearly don't have a real understanding of how the system (as bad as it is) works. I love hearing the criticism of big pharma (much of which is justified) but yet I don't see people criticizing all the "studies" on the internet for products where companies are clearly promoting natural products based on peoples fears for one simple reason - to make lots of money. most of the natural remedies advertised on the internet are nothing more than a placebo effect with absolutely nothing real to back their claims. I'm not saying there aren't some that are not completely valid, but they are few are far between.

    1) pharma doesn't work on natural products for one simple reason, they can't patent natural products. it's a simple thing known as prior art. research is insanely expensive. if there's no hope to generate revenue off your research, then no company is going to work on it. and they don't work on "altering natural substances by a hair so they can f***ing patent them". that's not how patent law works. altering them "by a hair" doesn't provide novelty that is patentable.

    2) for the few companies that are willing to tackle natural product derivatives, like epothilone, the cost of goods of just making the material, due to extensive # of synthetic steps, is so high that it's cost prohibitive. I spent almost 4 years, working 80+ hours a week to make 1 single natural product that had remarkable anti-cancer properties. I ended up with 2 milligrams at the end. the natural products that are simple in structure are already well established and tend to be more useful for fungicides, pesticides, herbicides. the oncolytics come from marine natural products. to make these on a scale that is useable by the population, you'd have to charge 10x the normal oncolytics, which are already insanely priced. we're talking at least 1/2 a million per person. the goal of any company, big or small, is to find new, simple chemical matter that can have the same effect as the large, complex natural products at a fraction of the cost of goods.

    3) the pharma industry is absolutely desperate (understatement) for any new treatments that can improve patients' lives. there is no conspiracy to keep people unhealthy. that's absurd, really ludicrous. The companies that find new treatments are the ones that reap the biggest profits. If there was a treatment out there for a type of cancer, every pharma company would pay out the nose to get to it first. why? because big pharma has been deteriorating for the last 15 years because they can't find enough new drugs to keep their shareholders happy. the entire industry is collapsing. the only hope left is that the small biotechs and midsize biotechs can stay alive long enough to come up with new treatments before big pharma buys them out and fires their employees. I work for a company that is still fairly small that has managed to cure hepatitis C and doubled and tripled the lifespan of people with cystic fibrosis.

    The FDA is not the friend of scientific research, they make it 1 million times harder to get a drug approved, as they should. They are trying to protect the people from companies advancing drugs that aren't safe enough. now, does that mean really important treatments that are borderline might not make it to the market, certainly. there are currently over 2000 clinical trials ongoing for oncology indications. that's billions, if not hundreds of billions of dollars being spent to try to find the next good treatment for cancer. most of these trials will fail miserably for the simple reason that even if they show an effect in these patients, the safety window is so minimal that there's no net beneficial effect.

    4) back to the cancer argument. again, I'm not arguing against a healthier lifestyle, because I do agree that every little bit helps. changing the microenvironment around a tumor does have some effect, but the tools that cancer cells have to survive in almost any environment are vast to say the least. You can shut down one pathway for cancer cells to propagate, they will simply find another way. The majority of tools that exist, whether its radiation, chemotherapy or homeopathic all have their uses to stop the tumor from growing, or in some cases, actually shrink the tumor down to nothing. I'm a firm believer that all three should be used in combination. but there's a reason cancer usually comes back, it's called cancer stem cells. All it takes is a few of these stem cells to hide away in tissues resistant to current therapies (think of an analogy with a super drug resistant bacteria, only takes a few cells to eventually come back and kick your ***). the companies that are still doing real research are trying everything they can to find a way to attack these cancer stem cells. if they are successful, not only will they have a huge impact on the disease, but they will also make huge profits at the same time.
     
  32. SICK

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    As I said in my message to you Trav....I am 27 now, and when I was 18 I thought those friends were life long, grow up, coach t-ball with our kids forever type guys. I talk to one of them. Thats it. My best man in my wedding is a "funny picture" text twice a week type of guy. Hes married but no kids. It happens. I have since found some new friends here in Charlotte. Not a lot though. My wife is my best friend (bring on the jokes)....and my son is my buddy. Sometimes having a small group of great friends is way better than having a huge group of "sometimes there" friends.
     
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  33. Ohio Fanatic

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    agree with Sick. My life has changed to my wife being my best friend and my kids are my world. I still keep in contact with my two or three best friends from college/grad school, but it's really more like a few times/year. It's a part of getting older with a more mature lifestyle. My brother is 44 and still lives the party lifestyle every weekend. I grew out of that a long time ago and have made new good friends while doing it.
     
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  34. SICK

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    I have people over for Dolphins games, have some beers at the bar with a couple of co-workers, and really hang with my brothers.....thats the extent of it. Really the club stuff is for the kids (lol get off my lawn)....and it's just not my thing anymore.
     
  35. Fin D

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    lol not quite. You ain't there yet grasshopper.
     
  36. SICK

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    Waiting for Todds response:

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  37. maynard

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    Something similar happened to me. I left a strong group of friends when moved to FL from CT. They are all a couple of years older than me and generally successful. Whenever I would fly back up there for some even like a wedding or something, I liked seeing everyone, but I really felt like they were treating me poorly. After moving I got my act together, finished school, got married etc., but I felt like they were talking down to me like I was the aimless 22 year old that moved away those 5-10 years ago... while they were bragging about making great salaries. I told one friend about a small trip my wife and I locally and his response was that he recently came back from Paris...

    I had a rush of feelings...inadequacy, anger, depression... all of it. It was a mini identity crisis.

    It was sort of eye-opening because we all play a role of some sort in any group. My role... apparently was the idiot screwup and they all got a kick out of it. (Yes, I still cling to idiocy to try to get you all to like me and have a laugh :) I don't have a solution that problem yet). Even though there is a part of me that exists, it felt like they didn't see me for what I had become. It felt very disrespectful. Now I wonder if that role I played contributed to my.... delinquency. Maybe I wouldn't have snapped out of it if I didn't move away. I don't know.

    Point is, if you happy with who you are (or are becoming), screw anyone that doesn't get that or respect it
     
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  38. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    i say you ditch that hoe and head back to vegas with the wolfpack.


    but anyway, congrats on being a grown up now. aqua puberty party at Sicks.
     
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  39. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    i want to call you a *** dumpster right now but i cant bring myself to do it.







    oh, wait.
     
  40. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Quit your *****ing about life and get back to writing!

    Sheesh... :pity:
     

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