Conservative nature and poor game planning relative to your QB skill set

I thought I saw spy a bunch of times...And I remember one play where Tannehill ran and got hammered.

 

I believe we won the last 3 games based on rolling ryan out often. Today that was non-existent and one of the reasons we lost..

 

Ok.. So now we have reason number 442 as to why we lost today.

Just stop.. We lost because Detroit won. They have a great defense and great weapons on offense.

Sorry DJ... but the reason we lost today was not because RT didn't run the ball.

 

That bootleg to Clay was so beautiful and I just wonder why we see it only every few games.

Ryan did use his legs on his own a few times in the 2nd half to buy time, and I'm glad he's keeping that up and learning.

 

Miami finally faces a good defense after facing Oakland San Diego jacksonville and Chicago, and the offense falls apart. Not surprised at all.

Forget your "the legs, he must use the legs" excuse. Good defensive teams keep these read option quarterbacks in the pocket and force them to make throws. And thats what the Lions are and did today

 

dj what has that have the foggiest thing in the world to do with our defense?

 

He did make the throws.. What else should he have done?

 

no we don't. you have some homer glasses with that one. you can argue all day who has the better Dline. Today, theirs was much better, so was their Oline. When we blitzed 7, Stafford still had time to throw. They have better WRs than us too.
We lost because we ran into the #1 defense, playing at home, after a bye. In the first half, if Tannehill had tried to run, he would have been squashed. Now in 2nd half, I thought we had a little more room to run Tannehill, but it's moot IMO because Tannehill was passing better in the 2nd half.

 

...and game ball should have gone to Brent Grimes. That dude played his fargin arse off today.

 

Our only touchdown was setup by Dion Jordan. No, Ryan did not make the throws, hes a below average pocket passer and the Lions knew they need to keep him in the pocket and did so.

 

The Lions have the better team and overall better players

 

yeah, not the players execution on offense while falling apart with injuries, it's got to be the coaching.

 

I don't think the read option is quite as vital as DJ is making it, but calling it once and then seemingly(?) not again after a negative result was cowardly and a poor reflection on Lazor. You cribbed a huge amount of your offense from someone who has a large amount of built-in adjustments to defensive counter-measures. If the Lions were sending a safety as a scrape guy after the quarterback, Chip Kelly has an adjustment for that.

There was a bunch of little things that added up to me this week for a poorly coached game.

 

What a clueless post.

I award no points.

 

Points on INT return????

Did you watch the game???

Stop posting.

 

Take your own advice. I'd much rather someone give a long explanation on something I didn't agree with rather than single line ****-posting and awful worn **** like "I award no points."

 

Bingo resnor. Relying to much on the read option especially against a tough defense will get your QB killed.

 

I don't think anyone is actually getting hurt running the read option. In fact I think everyone who has gotten hurt in the last several years in an offense running it has done so on a drop-back.

 

This is partially right. The lions kept him in the pocket by design. He is not a below average pocket passer. He is average and getting better.

 

the read-option is an option the Qb has, not the coach. Tannehill is responsible for not running it.

 

So you are OK with posters just making up things to support their agenda??

Nice.

There were NO points on the INT return.

Probably didn't watch the game either.

 

I think down the stretch we're going to see fewer QB runs. I say this because now teams have half a season's worth of film on this offense and the new-look mobile Tannehill. They know how important this is to our offense. The QB run stuff isn't going to be as available, imo. More of a week-to-week chess match with DCs game-planning to shut down the zone read stuff and perhaps using an extra man to contain him.

We'll see on Thursday against another good front.

 

We are around midfield.

Not in position.

 

You're both making largely opinion based arguments.

You're the one who is **** posting, though. Stop it. Go to Finheaven, or find an AOL chat room or something.

 

It's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

 

Another good post. Keep running Qb's in the pocket and make them pass. Make them pay when they run.

 

We were right at the redzone. WTF game were you watching?

 

Didn't Tannehill run for a first down when he dove between 2 players and went head first to get the yardage?

 

I really don't see how you say the Dolphins had better players than the Lions.

The Lions defense came into the game ranked #1 in the league. The only TD they gave up today was after the FG block by the Dolphins and the Dolphins went a grad total of 7 yards for that TD.

Stafford is a better QB than Tannehill and has proved it over his time in the league. The Lions also have a definite advantage in their starting WR's and the OL of the Lions clearly outplayed the OL of the Dolphins today.

I would also take the RB's of the Lions over the RB's of the Dolphins.

As far as Tannehill being the most dangerous dual threat in the league is concerned. Until Tannehill shows that he can throw a pass over 20 yards and complete it on a consistent basis, he isn't going to scare too many of the top defenses in the NFL. I felt the Lions went into the game with the idea of stopping the Dolphins running game, including the running of Tannehill.

They seemed to be saying to the Dolphins offense and Tannehill in particular, beat us with the pass if you can. They weren't worried about the deep ball and therefore the Dolphins weren't able to utilize the pass to drive the length of the field.

Tannehill may yet develop into a solid mid tier QB in the NFL, but until he can prove to defenses that he can hit the longer passes on a consistent basis, I just don't see him leading this team to the playoffs and especially not to the Super Bowl.

While Tannehill has shown improvement in some aspects of the game. Until he proves that he can he is a QB who can consistently lead his team to victories in the fourth quarter of close games, he will never be more than a QB with a decent arm and an ability to use his legs from time to time.

The teams who make the playoffs and win Super Bowls usually have either a great defense which makes plays when the game is on the line. If not, they have a franchise QB who leads his team to victory in the 4th quarter on a consistent basis.

Right now the Dolphins have a good defense, but not the type of defense which can be counted on late in games to make a play to win a close game.

Tannehill seems to play well when the Dolphins get a big lead, but he just can't be counted on to lead the team on a long drive to win the game or run out the clock in the closing minutes of a close game.

Considering the fact the Lions really had the better talent on the field today, I think the coaches did a good job preparing the team. Unfortunately as they did against the Packers, it appears the coaches and the players forgot that you have to be prepared to play the entire 60 minutes.

 

and he wrestled away from the facemask too. it was a huge moment. got the first and the foul.

 

I really don't see how you say the Dolphins had better players than the Lions.

The Lions defense came into the game ranked #1 in the league. The only TD they gave up today was after the FG block by the Dolphins and the Dolphins went a grad total of 7 yards for that TD.

Stafford is a better QB than Tannehill and has proved it over his time in the league. The Lions also have a definite advantage in their starting WR's and the OL of the Lions clearly outplayed the OL of the Dolphins today.

I would also take the RB's of the Lions over the RB's of the Dolphins.

As far as Tannehill being the most dangerous dual threat in the league is concerned. Until Tannehill shows that he can throw a pass over 20 yards and complete it on a consistent basis, he isn't going to scare too many of the top defenses in the NFL. I felt the Lions went into the game with the idea of stopping the Dolphins running game, including the running of Tannehill.

They seemed to be saying to the Dolphins offense and Tannehill in particular, beat us with the pass if you can. They weren't worried about the deep ball and therefore the Dolphins weren't able to utilize the pass to drive the length of the field.

Tannehill may yet develop into a solid mid tier QB in the NFL, but until he can prove to defenses that he can hit the longer passes on a consistent basis, I just don't see him leading this team to the playoffs and especially not to the Super Bowl.

While Tannehill has shown improvement in some aspects of the game. Until he proves that he can he is a QB who can consistently lead his team to victories in the fourth quarter of close games, he will never be more than a QB with a decent arm and an ability to use his legs from time to time.

The teams who make the playoffs and win Super Bowls usually have either a great defense who makes plays when the game is on the line. If not, they have a franchise QB who leads his team to victory in the 4th quarter on a consistent basis.

Right now the Dolphins have a good defense, but not the type of defense which can be counted on late in games to make a play to win a close game.

Tannehill seems to play well when the Dolphins get a big lead, but he just can't be counted on to lead the team on a long drive to win the game or run out the clock in the closing minutes of a close game.

Considering the fact the Lions really had the better talent on the field today, I think the coaches did a good job preparing the team. Unfortunately as they did against the Packers, it appears the coaches and the players forgot that you have to be prepared to play the entire 60 minutes.