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Conservative nature and poor game planning relative to your QB skill set

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Nov 9, 2014.

  1. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    the lions won by 4 pts in the last 30 seconds. The way you're talking about tannehill in this post, you would think they shut us out and beat us by 50. We were very much in this game, tannehill played just as good as stafford, and our offense was pretty solid all things considered against the #1 defense in the league. In fact, IMO, the difference in this game is Riddick made the catch when they needed it, and Charles Clay did not for us.

    If they were daring tannehill to beat them through the air, then it didn't necessarily work too well for them. Also Stafford being better than Tannehill is very debatable given he has the best wr possibly ever to throw to.
     
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  2. jw3102

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    My determination of a QB is how he plays when the game is on the line in the fourth quarter. In that regard, Stafford is a far better QB in the closing minutes of a game. In fact going into the 2014 season, he was tied with Brady and Roethlisberger, (in regards to active QB's), with six TD passes in the last three minutes of a game to lead his team to victory. He certainly has proved to be more clutch in the fourth quarter of games than Tannehill has so far.

    The Dolphins were in the game today simply because the Dolphins defense was able to shut down the Lions offense for much of the game.

    Tannehill led one TD drive and that was for only 7 yards. I think Tannehill has shown improvement this year. I just ever see him being more than a mid tier starter in the NFL and I don't think he will ever be the type of QB who gets this team much beyond 8-8 or possibly 9-7 at best.

    Obviously he is better than the majority of the QB's who have come and gone since Marino retired. I'm just not sold on him ever being more than he is today. A decent QB who can play well one week and then look very average the next week.

    I'm certainly willing to give him until the end of the season to show that he can be the type QB who can lead this team to the playoffs.
     
  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Detroit arguably has the best defensive line in football and they read Tannehill beautifully all afternoon. Despite what others may have seen, we ran the read option ALL DAY LONG and the defensive end was staying at home and waiting for #17. Why? Because we were one of the hottest teams in football and Tannehill's mobility was a large part of that.

    Miami knew Detroit would make these moves, which is why we saw the play-calling that we did. Trying to blame it on the coaching after the fact is just pure ignorant...Detroit was ranked the #1 D in the league for a reason. We tried to exploit their weaknesses and came up a little bit short, so there's no reason for finger-pointing and excuse making. It was simply a great game.
     
  4. PhinsMondayNitro

    PhinsMondayNitro Active Member

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    Agreed. Tannehill is nothing more than an average quarterback, a notch above Chad Henne.
     
  5. atomdomb

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    This couldn't be explained better. Those of you wanting tanny to run are very lucky you aren't the coaches. Tanny would be carted off early if that was the case. The Lion's stayed in their lanes and made tanny hand it off into the teeth of their defense. Good game planning by Detroit.
     
  6. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Of course here we go with blaming Tannehill after a loss, yet again.....Detroit is playing great football, that was a great game, both teams fought hard, someone won and someone lost....Usually how it goes in the NFL. Guess we need to bring back the start Matt Moore threads..SMH. The Detroit defense made Aaron Rodgers look average earlier this year. How about giving them some credit.
     
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  7. Linus

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    We are also playing our 3rd and 4th string Rbs. Tannehill practiced all offseason running the option plays with Moreno and Miller. They of course practice during the week, but there is some risk with that split decision hand off with your backups. Throw in the top D (and a disruptive front 7) with a spy on the end...what else could we have done.

    Complaint after complaint, but the team drove all the way down the field and had a possibly game winning TD dropped/defended. He had one horrible pass, but hustled and kept it from being a td.70+ percent passing too.
     
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  8. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Tannehill decides when he runs. I thought Detroit did a pretty good job maintaining leverage.
     
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  9. Vertical Limit

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    So you're saying he's a C- not a D? Okay. I'll be sure to bump this thread after Thursday against another good defense that traps read option quarterbacks in the pocket.
     
  10. atomdomb

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    I would compared to the rest of the league he is a B- or C+ Qb. If he can't run the offense from the pocket, and he will have to, his grade will go down.
     
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  11. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    honestly, no one cares how long you're willing to give tannehill. he is our franchise QB and will be so for at least the next seven years
     
  12. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Ryan Tannehill is 20-21 as a starter for the Miami Dolphins, let that sink in. Bust.
     
  13. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    i think Tannehill can beat a defense with his arm... The biggest problem with the offense is the interior OL. They are below average... That is just where this team is
     
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  14. adamprez2003

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    peyton manning was 22-26 his first three years. let that sink in. aaron rodgers didnt even play his first three years. let that sink in
     
  15. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Tool
     
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  16. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Tool 2
     
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  17. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    That run was not on the stat sheet cause of a face mask penalty
     
  18. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Internet tough guy? You really feel the need to blast someone's opinion? Or you're just on Tannehill's d**k that much. He's not the quarterback of the future.
     
  19. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well thank you nostradamus
     
  20. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You realize he's not a Dolphins fan, and he has a pretty reasonable opinion on Tannehill...
     
  21. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    And you know this how? There's plenty of highly paid professionals who disagree right now with your assessment.
     
  22. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    You still waiting for the QB of the future?
     
  23. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    No.. He's just getting lost in all this chappy noise then.. I I Should just learn to stay the **** away from this place after a loss.
     
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  24. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    That's the kind that goes pew pew from their lazer guns right?
     
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  25. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Another Internet tough guy? You think Tannhill will be the next Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers? Rodgers sat behind a HOF for years learning the craft. Peyton Manning is the son of a HOF quarterback. Tannehill played QB in high school & 2 years in college. He was thrown into the Dolphins starting quarterback position & look at the result. A 20-21 record with no playoff appearances. Keep your optimism about Tannehill see where it gets you.
     
  26. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    So being the offspring of a HoF QB means something? You are the internet tough guy. Coming in, throwing definitive statements around that you can't possibly back up or prove.

    8 posts, and everyone I've seen tonight is negative and antagonistic.

    Check out Finheaven, you might like it better over there.
     
  27. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Wow you told me. Don't even say I'm not a Dolphins fan I watch every game, read every article, replay games multiple times & attend games when I can. I'm not the antagonist I didn't call anybody a tool or criticize someone's opinion. I'm just venting my frustration after another heartbreaking loss that I've endured for years.
     
  28. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    A frustrating loss that definitely had positives. You're acting like steelers fans should be acting right now, not us.
     
  29. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Please quote me where I said you weren't a Dolphins fan.

    Fact is, you keep accusing people of doing the things you're doing. You posted a stat, then said:

    Then got your panties in a wad when someone posted stats disproving yours, and used your same phrase, "Let that sink in." You then called them internet tough guys, even though it was exactly what you had done. FinHeaven definitely seems more your speed.

    Let that sink in.
     
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  30. speed

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    A lot of trolls tonight lol
     
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  31. PhinsMondayNitro

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    How can a loss have positives? It's still a loss.
     
  32. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Another insult, I'm not the one with my panties in a wad.
     
  33. Roll Tide

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    You know, Tannehill and this coaching staff (if they all stay) will get one more year. I think they need it, and by the end of this year will have deserved it.
     
  34. Roll Tide

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    It's obvious you have never faced, and overcome, adversity.
     
  35. PhinsMondayNitro

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    The Dolphins haven't, hate to say but they fold under pressure. Some examples:
    2013 against the Saints after starting 3-0 playing on Monday Night Football
    2013 getting blanked by the Bills in Buffalo
    2013 pounded by the Jets in Miami ending our playoff hopes
     
  36. adamprez2003

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    all i can say is anyone who uses a QBs first two years in the league as a guide to how good or bad he is has no basis for any opinion that is formed from that. If he was a running back then yes you can use his rookie year but for almost any other position it takes two to three sometimes even more before you know what you have. Year three I'm happy with what I see. I see a QB who is damn effective when he gets a pocket to throw behind. I see a guy who doesnt get rattled no matter how many times he gets knocked on his ***. I see a guy that is going through all his progressions and improving every single year. What you see doesnt interest me. Once you use a QBs rookie record against him, you have invalidated all further opinion you may have about him
     
  37. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    In what world is losing a game at N.O. after being 3-0 related to overcoming adversity? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
     
  38. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    He was pressured on 40% of his drop backs today...just a tidbit.
     
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  39. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You are too much. Can I say that you got butt hurt? Our should I just say offended? You start flinging names around. You are a troll.

    My ignore list just claimed it's second victim in 7 years.
     
  40. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Andrew Luck is a franchise quarterback. Took a team that was 2-14 & brought them to the playoffs. RGIII took a team that was considerably worse than the Dolphins & brought them to the playoffs. Nick Foles posted crazy numbers 27 touchdowns & 2 interceptions & brought them to the playoffs. Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl. What has Ryan Tannehill done? 20-21 record.
     

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