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Do you approve of the job Head Coach Joe Philbin is doing?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bpk, Nov 9, 2014.

Do you approve of the job Head Coach Joe Philbin is doing?

Poll closed Nov 15, 2014.
  1. Yes

    21 vote(s)
    30.4%
  2. No

    48 vote(s)
    69.6%
  1. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    As before, this is a weekly version of the Presidential Approval Rating poll, but about our Head Coach.

    Do you approve of the job Head Coach Joe Philbin is doing?

    Yes or No (Vote in the poll. Don't just reply to this post with "Yes" or "No")

    - Anonymous voting
    - If you want to explain your vote, feel free to do so with a post.
     
  2. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    I voted no because I don't think he has the killer instinct in time pressure situations.
     
  3. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Honestly, I don't know how to assess it anymore. The only times I get to see the part he is doing (press conference answers about his thinking behind decisions like the Green Bay call where he got queasy, or clock management) he is leaving a lot to be desired. However, I have not idea what he's doing Monday-Saturday inside the building... he may be doing a lot of great things. I wish I knew what they were.
     
  4. Aquafin

    Aquafin New Member

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    the poor house
    I think if we had a coach who doesn't waste time outs and plays to win we would be a 10- 6 type of team.
     
  5. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    I voted yes this time, he earned my yes.
     
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  6. jboogie

    jboogie The sky is NOT falling!

    He made his mistakes yesterday and he will continue to make some but, I saw growth and passion yesterday. Seeing him running and cussing on the sideline made me feel better about him. That being said I also saw fear in this eyes in the 1st quarter and it showed in the play calling and the teams play.

    I voted yes.
     
  7. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I can't vote this week. Part of me wants to say no, simply because we lost. however at the same time We've been on a real roll lately, while Philbin's father was ill and eventually passing away. To me that shows some good leadership. Then I look at almost winning the Green Bay game, and the Detroit game and think, wow, we played really well against two good teams, he's doing a good job right? Well, I'm not so sure also because there were some questionable coaching decisions that likely had a big helping hand in both losses.

    Bottom line, I'm pleasantly pleased with how well this team is playing for the most part. We should have beat Green Bay, we should have beaten Detroit, but something is holding us back. The more you look at the decisions in both of those losses though, I have to wonder if he's the one holding us back. Or at least a big contributing factor. That being said, the fact we played them so well, makes me want to say yes, I approve.

    I need to see more, and I just can't vote this week because I don't want it to be a reaction to the loss.
     
  8. heylookatme

    heylookatme Well-Known Member

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    I think he's a below average head coach with good coordinators and one really great position coach in Kacy Rodgers.
     
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  9. Fin4Ever

    Fin4Ever Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I voted no but it is simply because of our overall record with him. I do however feel that he has improved this year and yes he made some terrible choices in all 4 of our losses but he also had showed more fire am d passion this year than any other. Also his players seem to really like him and have his back so it is so hard to really know. I do know that I do not look forward to starting over again. I don't control the purse strings and I am really impressed with Hickey so far as well. My feelings are I am more afraid of our owner doing the right things as I really feel he could care less how his fans feel..THE ONES WHO PAY THE BILLS!!!!
     
  10. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Yes, I VOTED YES! I think it's hypocritical to say he's a bad head coach but then point out that individual players have improved steadily in the time that he's been here. Yes, position coaches have a lot to do with that, but so does the head coach for hiring those coaches. Does he have a couple of head scratching moments when the game is on the line? Yep... all coaches do, even the great ones that are in the HALL OF FAME. You hope in time that he learns from those experiences and improves.
     
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  11. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Philbin is the only keeper on the team. Everyone else is replaceable, including RT. Everyone on the team functions and performs in Philbin's system.
     
  12. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I said before the season that I wanted to see how it plays out before judging Philbin. While I certainly don't agree with all his decisions on game day, I think head coaches deserve three years to prove they are effective head coaches or not. Unless of course the head coach is named Cam Cameron.

    My view all along has been that Philbin needs to coach this team into the playoffs this year and if not, the Dolphins need to find another HC for 2015. That still is where I stand regarding Philbin and his job with the Dolphins. The only caveat to that would be if the Dolphins go 10-6 and still don't make the playoffs. I think if he can lead this team to 10 victories, yet still not make the playoffs, I would have no problem with him returning as the head coach in 2015.
     
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  13. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Same.
     
  14. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Every team performs and functions in the system of their head coach. Yet it is always the head coach who is fired when the team doesn't have success on the field. So when push comes to shove, if the Dolphins don't perform on the field over the next seven games, it will Philbin's car leaving the parking lot for the last time and not all the players on the team.

    Head coaches with losing or mediocre records are the most replaceable employees in football at every level of the game, especially in the NFL. That is why 5-7 head coaches are fired at the end of most every NFL season.
     
  15. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    No. Fire him. Fire everyone. Fire everyone now. Fire everyone now or I rescind my Dolfandom. Fire everyone now or I rescind my Dolfandom until we get someone here who is not Philbin and go 19-0 will make everything taste like rainbows again.
     
  16. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Voted yes, simply because as of right now he is on pace to improve on last season's record. Is he perfect? No, not by a long shot. But there's a lot to be said for consistency. I think 10-6 is the mark needed where Philbin should keep his job. 9-7, despite being an improvement would be a tough call.
     
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  17. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    One of the most important aspects of being a head coach in the NFL is the hiring of quality coaches. While I questioned his hiring of some of those coaches when he was first hired for the job. I do feel that after last season and the firing of a few coaches on the roster, Philbin now has a better coaching staff around him than he did in his first year as the Dolphins head coach.

    I do wish that at the end of close games, he would just let Lazor call the offensive plays and he would stay out of the play calling. I think Philbin just gets far too conservative in his play calling in those situations.
     
  18. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    :sidelol:
     
  19. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    It's a pretty cut and dried poll. No, I'm not satisfied with Philbin to this point. Do I think he should be canned?? No...not at this point...let's see how the rest of season unfolds... If we do the win one, lose one thing and end up 8-8 or worse, then he should be moved out and someone else brought in... The thing is, what if we end up 9-7 (I don't think that will happen at this point, but) and we sneak into the playoffs...do you can him after that ?? Ross likely won't...
     
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  20. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I was always under the impression that Philbin let's Lazor call the plays. Is this not the case?

    I do not think I have ever seen Philbin with the playsheet in his hands. Maybe I'm just not paying attention?
     
  21. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    He sets the strategy/intention of the series, like with 4 minutes left against GB and Detroit...although he doesn't call the specific plays. He and Lazor meet before the game and Philbin comes up with how they're going to treat various scenarios, and works with Lazor on it.

    Edit: But sometimes he interferes and changes it around, like he did against GB.
     
  22. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    but what does a rainbow taste like?
     
  23. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Watching Mark Sanchez perform at Philadelphia is a great illustration of how important a great offensive scheme and good coaching can impact a player.

    Sanchez was never that good in NY. He just did not have good coaching that put him in a strong position to succeed (though the Jets did well his rookie year - it was largely defense and a conservative running game). Tonight and last week, Sanchez looked so much more effective as a QB. Obviously experience helps but it is much more a great scheme that puts him in great position to succeed.

    Hopefully, regardless of what happens to Philbin, we keep Lazor around (and would be great to get a new QB coach, but not very likely).
     
  24. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't see Philbin and Lazor scheming around mismatches or using much misdirection to deal with good defensive fronts. There are recurring problems with conservative play calling and offensive execution. I am not impressed. Philbin is a place holder, not a strategist who makes a difference.
     
  25. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    I have really enjoyed watching this team play week to week since Philbin has been on board. The team is almost always "in it" and its provided for some great entertainment. We shut out a playoff team 37-0 last week. This team didn't do that in spite of Philbin like some posters like to say, they did it FOR Philbin and themselves! Our D is amazing. Run game the best Ive seen since God knows when. Special teams blocking **** left and right.. Tanny looking better and better. Heartbreaks happen but then so do shutouts and whipping Tom Brady.. Overall I have really had fun watching this team take the field.
     
  26. roy_miami

    roy_miami Well-Known Member

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    We are (or were) number one against the pass according to Football Outsiders DVOA ranking. Four of the last eleven teams to be number one in that stat have won the SB, five have went to the SB.

    2013: Seattle Seahawks 13-3 Super Bowl Champions
    2012: Chicago Bears 10-6 missed playoffs
    2011: Baltimore Ravens 12-4 AFC Championship
    2010: Green Bay Packers 10-6 Super Bowl Champions
    2009: NY Jets 9-7 AFC Championship
    2008: Pittsburgh Steelers 12-4 Super Bowl Champions
    2007 Tennesee Titans 10-6 Wildcard
    2006 Chicago Bears 13-3 Super Bowl Appearance
    2005 Chicago Bears 11-5 Divisional Round
    2004 Buffalo Bills 9-7 missed playoffs
    2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 12-4 Super Bowl Champions

    For an average record of 11-5. With an 81% playoff appearance. With a 45% Super Bowl appearance. With a 36% Super Bowl win.

    QBs that have won:
    Brad Johnson
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Aaron Rodgers
    Russell Wilson

    QBs that have gone to the SB and lost:
    Rex Grossman

    QBs that failed to reach the Super Bowl with number 1 pass defense:
    Jay Cutler
    Joe Flacco
    Mark Sanchez
    Kerry Colins
    Rex Grossman
    Kyle Orton
    Drew Bledsoe

    Missed the playoffs:
    Jay Cutler
    Drew Bledsoe


    We're now 5-5 when we have the lead and the ball late in the game, we should be more like 7-3 or 8-2 in that type of situation. Who's fault is that? I don't know but our offense is 0 for 9 when attempting to throw the ball to close out the game. I watched the Bills game yesterday and the Chiefs were in a similar situation, the ball and a one score lead with less than 4 minutes left, and Alex Smith was able to make the throw.

    I would put money on the fact that we're the worst in the league in that stat.
    We are one of the worst in the league on obvious passing downs.
    We are one of the worst in the league inside the opponents 10 yard line. (28th)
    We are one of the worst in the league at the deep ball. (32nd)
    We are one of the worst in the league at 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives.
    We are one of the worst in the league at 4th quarter passer rating. (31st)
    We are one of the worst in the league at yards per pass attempt. (29th)


    Joe Philbin is not the problem with this team...
     
  27. PhinsMondayNitro

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    Tannehill is the problem. He doesn't have that desire to win like Manning, Rodgers, Brees. You never see Tannehill fired up yelling at his teammates for mistakes like after a sack for example. Notice how the great quarterbacks scream at the offensive line for giving up a sack, Tannehill just gets up and acts like oh well. He's horribly inconsistent not to mention he can't throw the deep ball to save his life. Going back to 2008 Chad Pennington couldn't throw the deep ball at all but he still found a way to consistently win games.
     
  28. nvdolfan

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    I voted no because he hasn't shown any ability to learn how to manage the game.

    I would have thought after the GB timeout debacle he would realize the offense has the advantage coming out of a timeout. The defense doesn't have the ability to save the clock when the other team is outside your 30 yard line and less than 2 minutes. Here goes Joe though calling timeout's for Detroit to "save the clock". Not sure if we would have won or not, but so frustrating as a fan to watch him make stupid decisions that help the other team out.

    Had he shown an ability to adapt and hadn't called those timeouts against Detroit I would have voted yes, even had we lost the game, but his stubborn a$$ still thinks it's the right call and he will keep doing it.
     
  29. Phinastic

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    No, those timeouts are still being wasted.
     

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