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Gotta be honest here, Pretty upset

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ET7, Nov 14, 2014.

  1. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen anyone say any of that, could be wrong I guess.
     
  2. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    When has Wallace has trouble finding the ball? The post vs Detroit comes to mind, a horrible pass BTW, other than that I cant think of one.
     
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  3. Cass

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    People still don't like Tannehill? Right now, the only person I feel better about on the team than our young QB, is Landry.
     
  4. RGF

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    I didnt know Mrs. Dalton was your relative.
     
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  5. RoninFin4

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    I deal with this constantly. A.J. Green, along with a good group of other weapons, makes Andy Dalton good, not the other way around. Also helps playing the Saints D. They're miserable.

    That being said, so far in his career though, Reliant Stadium has to be Andy Dalton's personal house of horror. Guess where Cincinnati plays Sunday.
     
  6. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Can't. Tell. If. Serious.

    You must not have read any threads around here.
     
  7. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about this thread specifically, my bad.
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    its football man, don't overcomplicate it, wallace has been open enough..

    Wallace is not perfect, and I don't think ryan throws a bad deep ball, its just a mental bock at this point..

    imo I would design some extended routes and see if we can get it started working that way..the other way hasn't worked for 10 games so maybe its time to improv a bit.
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    you might be miss interpreting the criticism..

    for me its about pointing out the flaws so he can get better and wanting him and the coordinator to use his best attributes in the gamelan consistently..

    its not about just winning regular season games..its about winning a championship.
     
  10. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Just off the to of my head...the not touchdown in the endzone because his right foot was out of bounds. The dropped bomb against Carolina, I think it was, where it went through his hands.
     
  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Can anyone get me a replay of the missed post in the Detroit game? When I saw it in real time I didn't think it was a bad throw...
     
  12. Fin D

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    That's great in theory, but if you're in a timing system and you have timing system QB, you cannot have WRs running bad routes.

    I get you'd prefer a more sandlot type offense like we had with Marino or Wallace had with Big Rape, but that's not what we have here.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    mike wallaces route running on deep passes have not been the problem Fin.
     
  14. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I disagree, DJ, that pass on the sideline is all on Wallace, for instance. Tannehill put a ball on his right side, away from defenders, but Wallace couldn't come down with it because he ran too close to the sideline. Unless you can show me a replay where it shows that Tannehill's ball placement forced him to the sideline.
     
  15. pumpdogs

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    Jesus!Post ever going to stop?
    Longball or no longball bottomline if tannehill can lead us to playoffs he will be considered a winner.If he doesn't with a top 5 defence and a good running game then he has no excuses.
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I saw an angle where I thought the throw was too far outside.
     
  17. Fin D

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    You can't know that. Unless you know what each play is you have no idea when Tannehill is supposed to release, where Wallace is supposed to be at a given time. That's the whole thing about timing offense.
     
  18. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  19. resnor

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    Great read. It's hilarious, in the comments, a bunch of guys saying that Tannehill needs to put less air on his deep ball...the opposite of what a bunch of people on here are saying. Also interesting that the breakdown clearly shows that the miss wasn't on Tannehill, yet a bunch of guys in the comments still blaming Tannehill. It's just like on these forums.
     
  20. HogsHDFinsfan

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    Oh, since you are sick and tired of answering questions about Tannehill, thst should stop the debate. Yeah...not so much. If you don't like it, don't respond...but don't act like it's as obvious as the sky is blue that RT is some great QB. He's not. He's had and has accuracy issues. That's a fact. When teams lose, the qb takes heat, justified or not. Suck it up, buttercup.
     
  21. HogsHDFinsfan

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    I'm an emotional fool because RT has accuracy issues? Roflmao at you. Can't win an debate, get personal, then accuse the other person of being a baby. Yes, that's not emotional or foolish.
     
  22. HogsHDFinsfan

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    No, you are right. insecurity of some of these posters is striking, and laughable.
     
  23. HogsHDFinsfan

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    If Wallace or any WR is open, it's the QB job to put the ball where he can catch it.
     
  24. HogsHDFinsfan

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    I agree with this.
     
  25. HogsHDFinsfan

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    The lonely voice of reason.
     
  26. JMHPhin

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    Flmao
     
  27. Fin D

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    Once again, no you're not an emotional fool because you think Tannehill has accuracy issues. You are an emotional fool because you won't stop trying to beat that fallacy into our heads and use nothing but emotional rhetoric to back it up. Plenty of other people have negatives to point and none of them are getting the pushback you are. Think about that.

    How are you having such a hard time understanding this?
     
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  28. pumpdogs

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    Improved Dolphins Offense Still Lacking Big Plays
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    Wide receiver Mike Wallace #11 of the Miami Dolphins can't hold on to a second quarter pass as free safety A November 13, 2014 in Miami Gardens, Florida. (Source: Marc Serota/Getty Images)
    Wide receiver Mike Wallace #11 of the Miami Dolphins can’t hold on to a second quarter pass as free safety Aaron Williams #23 of the Buffalo Bills defends in a game at Sun Life Stadium on November 13, 2014 in Miami Gardens, Florida. (Source: Marc Serota/Getty Images)
    Related Tags: Bill Lazor, Brian Hartline, Buffalo Bills, Joe Philbin, Kevin Coyle, Lamar Miller, Miami Dolphins, Mike Wallace, National Football League, NFL, Peyton Manning, Rishard Matthews, Ryan Tannehill









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    dolphins Improved Dolphins Offense Still Lacking Big Plays





    DAVIE (CBSMiami/AP) — The Miami Dolphins offense has been much improved in 2014 compared to the last several years.
    They are accumulating more yards, scoring more points and possessing the ball longer, but there are still areas that can be improved.
    Mike Wallace is making $15 million in 2014 because he gives the Miami Dolphins a deep threat, which he showed with touchdown catches of 95, 82, 81, 60, 56, 54, 53, 52 and 51 yards during his first four NFL seasons with Pittsburgh.
    But so far this year, Wallace and the Dolphins have yet to cash in on a long ball.
    Wallace has six touchdown catches, but the longest was only 14 yards. Ryan Tannehill has thrown for 17 TDs, but the longest was a 21-yard pass to Rishard Matthews. That was the longest scoring play by the offense this season, reflecting a lack of big-play punch remarkable given Miami’s success.

    The Dolphins are 6-4 and averaging 24.9 points per game, which puts them on pace for their highest-scoring season since 1986, even though their offense ranks last in the NFL with only one touchdown covering 20 yards or more.
    The Denver Broncos, who plays host to Miami on Sunday, happen to rank first in that category with 13 scores.

    The absence of quick-strike scoring is compounded by red-zone inefficiency. Miami ranks next to last in the league in red-zone scoring, averaging 4.1 points on possessions that reach the 20. Denver ranks first at 6.0 points, scoring a touchdown 77 percent of the time.
    The Dolphins’ persistent difficulty punching it in is magnified because they lead the league with 49 red-zone possessions, six more than any other team.
    “Why have we had so many red-zone drives?” Lazor said. “Probably because we haven’t had explosive plays that have scored from outside the red zone. It’s easy math. The thing that’s not easy is getting it fixed.”
    Wallace has often been open deep, but he fell out of bounds after making his longest reception this year, a 50-yarder. He declines to use the alibi that he and Tannehill have come close to connecting for a long-ball score.
    “We’ve got to hit it,” Wallace said. “I’m the guy y’all are going to talk to about this, but I’m not the only guy who can run deep patterns. Nobody has caught them, so we’ve got some work to do. Everybody.”
    Tannehill’s well-documented inaccuracy on deep passes is one issue. On passes thrown more than 20 yards, he’s 6 for 26 with two interceptions and no touchdowns. By contrast, Peyton Manning is 19 for 37 with no interceptions and eight touchdowns.
     
  29. resnor

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    Question, has Tannehill had deep balls for tds not completed due to PI, drops, or bad routes?
     
  30. pumpdogs

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    Yes but every qb has.We really need to start hitting some of these or its going to catch up with us.With our defence plus running game and landrys returns we should be averaging better than 24 pts a game.If we don't make the playoffs I just can't believe we have a franchise qb.No excuses left for this guy he needs to lead us to playoffs.If he does the negative posts will stop.
     
  31. resnor

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    No, I don't think the negative posts will stop. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous to say that he has to lead us to the playoffs THIS year. He's in his third year. He was an EXTREMELY raw QB coming out, and everyone KNEW he needed time. He's in a new offense. Tannehill has made good progress every year. My point, that you clearly missed, is that Tannehill SHOULD have some deep touchdowns, and has thrown some really good deep balls, but you guys act like everything he throws downfield is absolute trash. It isn't. Sure, every QB has drops...but Tannehill started out with way more. Every QB has drops, but balls that are hitting receivers in the hands downfield should not be dropped. If Wallace does what he's supposed to do on a couple of deep catches, and Sims does what he's supposed to do, and Hartline does what he's supposed to do, we wouldn't be having these conversations. But those three players did NOT do what they're supposed to do, and here we are, hashing out the same tired argument still, 10 games into Tannehill's third year.

    Here ya go, Piston, cause you said it wasn't in this thread, but here we are, on page 10, and you got posters blaming Tannehill for the lack of deep completions, and claiming that Tannehill has accuracy issues downfield.
     
  32. resnor

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    You mean like putting a ball outside his right shoulder when he's running tight to the right sideline, with a defender on his left hip, and safety coming from the inside part of the field? You mean a ball like that? Oh right, you probably claim that ball to Wallace in the Detroit game was a bad throw by Tannehill. GTFO.
     
  33. resnor

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    It's all over the forum, dude, perpetuated by you, along with several others.
     
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  34. resnor

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    Even in the article, it states that he couldn't hold onto a pass. Also, AGAIN, WHY ARE WE COMPARING TANNEHILL TO PEYTON FREAKING MANNING???? Peyton Manning also has Demarious and Julius to throw to. Not to mention, if the RECEIVERS held onto a couple balls deep, Tannehill would be about 10/26 with at least 2 tds. But yeah, it's all on Tannehill. So ridiculous.
     
  35. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    And some people didn't think this would turn into a ***** fest. Could see it coming a mile away.
     
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  36. Fin D

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    That's not impressive. When I post in a thread the odds are 2:1 it will turn into a ***** fest.:tongue2:
     
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  37. pumpdogs

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    Dude what is ur ****ing problem!!!!!!!!!!You having a tannehill poster over your bed or something and a box of tissues?
     
  38. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    That's true, but this thread was heading down that road several pages ago, and I think before you posted in it.
     
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  39. Fin4Ever

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    This guy Tannehill.....Is he a QB or something?
     
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  40. resnor

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    No, my problem is pretty clearly posters comparing Tannehill to a first ballot HoFer who has been in the league for like 15 years. I also have a problem with posters regurgitating the same tired *** arguments, no matter how many times they're shown to be incorrect. I also have a problem with posters being intentionally aggressive and demeaning in their posts.
     

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