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Gotta be honest here, Pretty upset

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ET7, Nov 14, 2014.

  1. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    First of all I didn't write article but this is just another example of how the national, and local media sees tannehills struggles with the deepball.I have not watched a game this year on cbs,fox,or nfl network where the announcers (some are former nfl qbs)that didn't not mention his longball struggles.
    I have also never heard in college and 3 years in the nfl someone say tannehill throws a good deepball.Now why is that?
    The only people in the country that think his deepball is not an issue is you and your little click you have on this site.
    Now can he improve lets hope so because we could sure use some quick tds this sunday.
    Thats a wrap I am done with this post.10 pages way to long.
     
  2. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    That's fine, but even in the article you posted, they pretty clearly are laying the blame on Wallace, not on Tannehill. To post an article that states that Wallace didn't hold on to a ball, as a way to denigrate Tannehill, seems the very definition of disingenuous.
     
  3. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    Roflmao...surely he must. Great response!!!
     
  4. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    Clearly, you have many problems. perhaps you should just skip the Tannehill posts.funny how those of us who see him as imperfect don't care that you guys are in love with him. But those of you in love with him have a huge problem with those of us pointing out that he isn't perfect. It's hysterical.
     
  5. HogsHDFinsfan

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    and keep in mind, in college Tannehill experienced a large amount of drops. So it's just not Miami receivers that have trouble catching his passes. It was also a problem for him at A&M.
     
  6. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    ROTFLMAO LOL DERP DERP DERP

    Take your own advice, and skip the posts of those that disagree with you. I'm not in love with him, I'm just over the completely ridiculous arguments that are being made. I can only ignore them for so long, as they crop up everywhere. Again, you don't answer anything with facts, just an emotional response attacking the poster, not anything to do with the facts presented.
     
  7. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    I know right? Wtf! Why the hell would anyone use logic and reason??? Bah!
     
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  8. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    OK so what is the reason? Since you know QB'ing so much? Why has no analyst or coach mentioned this?

    Please tell us why bread-basket drops are Tannehill's fault.

    It's a non-issue for RT...but makes him look bad to stat nugs.

    Lazor hasn't called them as much...do you not think drops have something to do with that?

    RT isn't perfect at it, but he's likely only about 10% responsible for the lack of success there.

    If the bread-basket catches had been made, this conversation doesn't exist...
     
  9. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    Care to re post where I've attacked a poster? I don't have a problem with any of you guys. I don't care what you guys say. You guys are the ones who have a problem with those of us who criticize Tannehill. That's all it is. It's not that hard.
     
  10. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    I'm no expert...geez. I'm just like you guys...a schmuck with an opinion. Nothing I say matters one bit. Nothing any of you say matters one bit. So then...Every breadbasket pass should be caught. Will they be? No, They will not be. But I will not hold another position to a higher standard than I will hold the quarterback. In the NFL most teams begin and end with the quarterback. If he doesn't play well, teams usually don't win. Wide receiver can play poorly, a defensive end can play poorly, a tackle can play poorly, a running back can play poorly... And teams can still win. It's very difficult to overcome bad quarterback play. As we saw against Green Bay and Detroit and the first Buffalo game. If Tannehill plays better in those games, we win 2 out of those 3.
     
  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    This is you attacking. Anyone who disagrees with you is a "lover" and that apparently negates our viewpoint.
     
  12. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Absolutely ridiculous. Sure, one can argue that if Tannehill played better in the first half of green bay we win that game. One can also argue that if the defense had kept the receiver IN BOUNDS on the fake spike we win the game. BOTH are true. The defense **** the bed on the last possession, several times. Blame all around. Although, Tannehill did give the defense the lead at the end.

    I find it hard to blame Tannehill in the least for the Detroit game.
     
  13. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    C'mon man...stop taking every statement so literal. We are all Dolphins fans. We all want Tannehill to succeed.
     
  14. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    That's fair, and I don't disagree.
     
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  15. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Lol...not sure how to take your posts then...they're not metaphorical. It's just annoying when you simply make fun of people, or call them names, and not add anything of substance to the discussion. That's why Fin has been saying you act emotionally. There's plenty of stuff to talk about, and I have no problem discussing different viewpoints, but to act like I, or anyone in here is supporting Tannehill because we "love" him our have his poster is stupid. People can dislike Tannehill all they want, I just want them to have actual, valid reasons, not this overused, unsubstantiated "He can't throw the deep ball" BS, or other such vapid arguments.
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    I'm officially convinced Resnor is Lauren Tannehill.
     
  17. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Those same people all seem to have been on a suck for Luck bandwagon. Funny part about that? Tannehill and Luck have nearly identical completion percentages to all parts of the field. The only place Luck actually has a percentage markedly higher? Under ten yards.
     
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  18. djphinfan

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    no but I can isolate both players and make an assessment based on a myriad of things.. Ryan is not feeling it, he lacks confidence, he's not sure how to measure it yet.. It will come once he just plays loosely, I don't see a trajectory or velocity problem, IMO he's just rushed.
     
  19. HogsHDFinsfan

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    My problem with him is his accuracy. some is his fault some was not.
     
  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    When u just throw the ball naturally and at a target the ball should have less air, so I think that's what he needs to do and stop worrying about proper trajectory
     
  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    How then can you not see Wallace's issues tracking ball in the air and poor route running?

    Again, like it or not, its a timing offense, Tannehill cannot just let it rip with abandon.
     
  22. Fin-Omenal

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    Maybe because he looked at Wallace's resume without Tannehill. So unless your argument is he forgot how to do those things on the plane ride down from Pittsburgh.....then it is a stupid excuse,
     
  23. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    once again, I haven't seen many poor deep routes, t get deep sometimes you have to go off your mark, its about feel and adjustment from the qb position, you don't just throw to a spot when your talking deep ball, there are to many variables that can interfere with the exact ending spot, there has to be room for adjustment by the receiver, then feel and vision by the qb.

    I've seen ryan multiple times change his arm angle a fraction of a second before he released, you know why he did that?, because he was thinking about his touch and trajectory...What I think happens with him and why the deep ball has been non existent after 10 games, is because he has such good arm strength and a very flat natural arc to his passes, he compensates mid action and changes the arc.
     
  24. Disgustipate

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    Wallace was mediocre his last year in Pittsburgh, and to be real he only had one truly spectacular year.

    It is both much more logical, and more technically sound to pin Bruce Arians as a huge missing component. But then again, neither one of those things seems your strong suit.
     
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  25. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Eff off. Purely a troll post.
     
  26. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Surely not...resnor has bigger boobies.
     
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  27. Fin-Omenal

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    I know it's unfair that Wallace makes what he does, I know you take it personally.

    Real evaluators and real football minds disagree with your assessment, im sorry you're wrong.
     
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  28. Fin-Omenal

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    Soooo, does this mean we can't date? I love blondes
     
  29. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah, I don't really care for *****.
     
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  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Like who? Sources? I mean, this is the stuff I'm talking about. People actually post up articles about Mike Wallace's struggles, but you make claims. But don't back them up with anything. Maybe you're right, I don't know. But I know without some sources, you're just spouting nothingness.
     
  31. Fin-Omenal

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    My sources are atleast 3 organizations complete with scouts and paid football minds offered this one trick pony, can't run a route, can't track a ball WR huge money to play football for their team. And many others would've aswell if the cap allowed.

    Fans of this team generally hate WRs for some odd reason, Wallace is doing what he has always done...put himself in position to make plays. It's comical how he too a few posters has became the scapegoat for why our team can't hit a big play offensively.

    The irony
     
  32. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    And at least one organization wanted to draft Jamarcus Russell number one overall. And there were several organizations who wanted to draft this terrible, raw, horrible at deep balls, uncatchable ball throwing QB that we got in the first round. Just cause someone was sought after doesn't necessarily mean anything. The Steelers didn't pony up to keep him, did they? The Dolphins were desperate for an upgrade to Hartline. Sure, Wallace is doing some good things this year, but it doesn't change the fact that he STILL runs poor routes (a criticism when we brought him in), still doesn't adjust well to balls in the air (a criticism when we brought him in), and doesn't catch with his hands.
     
  33. resnor

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    And once again, for the record, I don't hate Wallace. I just don't think it's right how some on here want to lay all the blame for the deep ball issues and any loss on Tannehill, as if there is no one else on the team sharing the blame. Also, the receiving issues don't begin and end with Wallace...
     
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  34. Fin-Omenal

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    Mods can we get a sticky of the multi year deal Pitt offered Wallace that he turned down posted on here so this LOL argument is put to rest??

    Also you're speaking of an unproven rookie in JM who never had any PROOF he could play in the NFL, Wallace has and then some.

    The poor route running argument has been a valid arguement, where was it ever posted he couldn't track a deep ball before it became a popular out from the I Heart Tannehill crowd?? Who cares how he catches the ball as long as he catches the ball? (3 drops 2013)
     
  35. resnor

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    Who counted those drops? I seem to recall more than three. And watch him catch. He doesn't catch with his hands, and when he does, he usually bubbles the catch.
     
  36. vt_dolfan

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    Can anyone ever remember a time, where so much focus, so much vitriol over a pass that is completed so infrequently. In fact, for a pass that is completed so infrequently, it results in a TD 28% of the time. So lets break this down, I think it was mentioned that this pass at best is completed like what, 30% of the time. And, of that 30% of the time, it results in a TD only 28% of the time.

    And yet, we have thread after thread after thread, about ONE FREAKING PASS PLAY. ONE.
     
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  37. Fin4Ever

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    Sorry VT. It is just that for so very long here in Miami that 28% was more like 60-65% so just hoping for a few is not too much to ask for in my opinion. I just wish coach would listen to me for once ( LOL ). Line Mike Wallace up on the left side and send him deep...I think Tanny throws much better to his left than he does to the right. Why not try this ? Nothing else seems to work for them.
     

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