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Merged-Haloti Ngata suspended 4 games including this Sunday

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Ronnie Bass, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He said it was adderall, and unless you have definite proof he was lying, I have no problem with taking him at his word. He is suspended, and that is the bottom line and all we really need to know about.
    I do not recall all other suspended players blaming it on adderall, so no idea what you're talking about there.
     
  2. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He's Tongan. A lot of them are naturally massive.
     
  3. k-bayfinfan

    k-bayfinfan Bikini Inspector

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    Ravens interception leader out for this game

    i think the chip are starting to stack in our corner as the Ravens #1 run stuffer will be out as will their leader in interceptions will also be out with suspension. Comments please.
     
  4. k-bayfinfan

    k-bayfinfan Bikini Inspector

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    This thread may need to be merged but please wait as lot of people don't realize is ngata.
     
  5. Springveldt

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    Sorry but those traps and shoulders scream it to me.

    What weight is Wake? 260-270lb?

    He's bigger than Arnie was in his prime.

    Your dad must have been a physical freak to get to that size without working out. :)
     
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  6. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Wake is no where near as developed as Arnold in his prime. Arnold was like 240, but shorter. Traps and delts are relatively easy to develop and over develop.

    When I see Wake, I don't see an over-developed physique that has to be on steroids. He's in great shape with low body fat for a guy his size. That's more diet than anything.
     
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  7. Springveldt

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    Traps and delts are also the first muscle that get noticeably bigger when on gear. Guys get that cannonball delt look and traps up to their ears.

    Anyway, I don't care if he is juiced or not, I just want him to sack the QB.
     
  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I said without working out all day. He did a lot in college because he did work study at a gym.

    Wake doesn't look bigger in the muscles as Armies in his prime. He is taller.
     
  9. cuchulainn

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    I have a copy of the Houston Texans exercise guide for players. There is heavy emphasis on working the neck and shoulders... makes sense.

     
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    arnold to this day had the most esthetically pleasing physique...the best of all time.
     
  11. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    In the new agreement, if a player says they were busted for let's say in this case Adderall and that is not true, the NFL can now set the record straight so to speak. Wasn't the case previously. So without the NFL coming out and contradicting him, we have to assume he's telling the truth.
     
  12. keithjackson

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    I wonder what at all the NFL gains from changing the public perception of one it's best players from "Adderal user" to "drug addict/cheater". For a league that already has a PR problem, while it's nice to have the freedom to call lying players out, I don't quite understand the incentive in this particular case. Is it possible he is lying, and they are merely abstaining from comment?
     
  13. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Yes it's entirely possible. But it's also a very big risk for the player to claim something and then have THAT also blow up in his face. In this case it looks like he isn't putting up any fight so your assertion that they both are lying is possible.
     
  14. keithjackson

    keithjackson Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You're probably right. However, I gleaned that players do take the Adderall in conjunction with the more nefarious substances so that if a positive test occurs they are "100% truthful" in their naïveté.
     
  15. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Arnold was one of the taller bodybuilders of his era. 6'3 or so. Wake looks great. but he does not have the type of steroid induced extreme muscle that Arnold and his peers had.
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    IMO, the most aesthetically pleasing physique of all time was Mike Mentzer in his prime. Mike was only like 5'8 or so, and it is easier for shorter guys like Mike, and Frank Zane to develop that way, all else being equal. Taller bodybuilders like Arnold being successful were the exception, not the rule.
     
  17. djphinfan

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    Truly awesome physiques you mention, some of the best, I'd throw frank Zane in there to, but because of Arnold's height and elongated limbs, the symmetry and shape was unique in its own way...

    Mentzer was the most symmetrical but to my eye Arnold was the best.

    It's like saying Jenneifer Lawrence or Natalie Portman..both delicious.
     
  18. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Depends if you limit the choices to male physiques imo .
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wanna go there?, you first?
     
  20. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    "They" use to say he was 6'2 where Louie was 6'5. Truth is, neither of those guys were that tall. Cam is at least 2"-4" taller in reality than Arnold.
    Google "Arnold at 16", he was a monster, always was, but not all roided out looking. Ronnie Coleman has that extreme look. I always thought Arnold had a very classy physique, and the best biceps and chest in bodybuilding history...by far.

    Mike Mentzer had a smooth, realistic physique. Had some great training principles.
     
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  21. djphinfan

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    and Arnold had that thin skin, truly the most amazing physique, the modern day steroid freaks can't compare to the beauty.
     
  22. Alex13

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    arnold once stood next to me, when he was in berlin to open a planet hollywood, i'm not really sure if he is even 6-0
     
  23. cuchulainn

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    Go on... :shifty:


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  24. Sethdaddy8

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    There has been a bit of a "mass with class" movement at the recent Olympias. Guys like Phil Heath and Dexter Jackson arrive on stage with near perfect symmetry, while not crushing the scales. But yeah, Arnold's my all time fave.
     
  25. Fin4Ever

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    I think for me it was Bo Derek :)
     
  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    When? I doubt Arnold is as tall now as he was in his bodybuilding prime.
     
  27. Vertical Limit

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    Their defense was porous with or without him. ngata isnt the same guy of years ago.
     
  28. keithjackson

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    Arnold is definitely shorter than 6'; I'll give him a generous 5'11, but it may be shorter than that. At least in his Sacramento days...
     

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