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Hyde: Ross certain to pursue Harbaugh, Gamble again

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Itsdahumidity, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    "The prime issue beyond convincing Harbaugh could be convincing Harbaugh's expected choice of a personnel man, Tom Gamble"

    "Last winter, Ross received permission from Philadelphia to interview Gamble for the vacant general manager's job and, "he was going to be a top, top choice,'' a source said."

    "Be clear on this: Gamble is a top talent himself. He helped build San Francisco and Philadelphia's rosters."


    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dave-hyde-blog/sfl-hyde5-expect-ross-to-set-sights-on-harbaugh-gamble-again-20141216-story.html
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    That's a winning pair. I would be all for it.
     
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  3. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I think it moved.
     
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  4. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I can't see it
     
  5. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Why did gamble turn us down? Wasn't it because his dad was ill or something like that?
     
  6. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    Agreed. IMO JH will only succeed if he's paired with a top talent evaluator. His act won't fly with mediocre rosters.
     
  7. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    It had to do with an uncertain future coaching situation as well as the issues over control of the team itself (recall all the issues with that). It was a one year gig with Philbin (just think about what the current GM is up against?) - not knowing who the new coach would be, his tenure might only have been one year. Who would want to uproot their family, leave a good situation in Philly, and move to Miami for a one year gig?

    But, if he has confidence in a new coach and is there at the start, he knows he has 3-5 years to build a winner. And, more than likely will have more control with a coach who has the ear of the owner. I doubt a new coach (unless he's lame) is going to come into an organization with Aponte or others having any real control.

    This from PFT last year:

     
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  8. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    If Ross pulls this off I will forgive him for every boneheaded move he ever made and sing his ****ing praises.
     
  9. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    One other note, Gamble worked in Philly with Lazor (though it was only for one year). He might convince Harbaugh to keep him, who knows...
     
  10. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Would be a pair of awesome hires.
     
  11. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Its like Christmas in mah pants.
     
  12. Larry Little

    Larry Little Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think there is most likely a good reason why a Superbowl team enthusiastically lets go of their head coach.
     
  13. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy, Saban, Parcells, all awesome hires. If it were that easy we'd be having parades every other year.
     
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  14. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Niners would want probably want high draft picks, hate to lose picks on a coach,
    Is this the coach to build the Dolphins? With Gamble or not? Certainly taking a gamble
     
  15. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Open your eyes stoopit.



    Harbaugh, Gamble, Lazor at OC, Sexy Rexy as DC,

    Rex did work with John Harbaugh...there is a connect...maybe.

    This would really be a Riley-esque off-season. A double rainbow, if you will.
     
  16. Fin4Ever

    Fin4Ever Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Man, this would be the greatest news and definately hires in ages and ages..Come on Ross..you can do it..offer them both at least a 1/4 more in salary than any other coach or GM is making and make it happen! Wow, that would be so awesome.
     
  17. padre31

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    Hmm, cannot say I put this yr on Hickey at all, think he did a good to really good job this past offseason.

    Philbin is debatable, I think the team is disciplined, players have developed (from an objective pov, let's be honest we have not had young talent on the roster like we do now since JJ/Wanny)

    Also think Philbin lacks a feel for the game and does not inspire players

    Objectively we are not in a terrible position moving forward Philbin deserves credit there, his December record is ATROCIOUS
     
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  18. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't see the article on my phone for some reason.

    Even though I can NOT stand Rex Ryan. I could certainly live with that coaching staff. I'm just not sold that Harbaugh will keep Lazor if he gets hired as HC. And I doubt Rex would accept our DC position as well. Pipe dreams is what that looks like to me.
     
  19. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Harbaugh and his khaki pants and red sharpie around his neck on the Dolphins sideline,
    I can't see it
     
  20. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I have my doubts that Mr Ross can pull this off.
     
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  21. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy and Parcells were hired at the end of their careers to be fair. Harbaugh is going to work until he dies.
     
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  22. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I thought we were both talking about my *****. I apologize.
     
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  23. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Hickey absolutely does not deserve to be canned. He had a solid first season. But if he is collateral damage for a huge transition...so be it.
     
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  24. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I agree with you. Not that I'm big on Harbaugh specfically, but if you need to fire a guy who's done nothing wrong to make a bigger hire, then you do what you need to do. I'm a Cubs fan in MLB, and they canned their manager after just one season because they had a chance to hire one of the best in the game, Joe Maddon. Part of doing business.
     
  25. Phoenician Fan

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    This would probably mean a conversion to a base 3-4 defense and I would love that. My choice for DC would be Kirby Smart of Alabama.

    I would move both Mitchell and Starks and give Odrick a contract, sign Kenrick Ellis and Draft Danny Shelton and Henry Anderson. Convert Terrence Fede to a pass rushing 5-tech and perhaps look for another bargain 5-tech in free agency. Suh could probably play 5-tech, he will be cheap, right?
     
  26. padre31

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    There is a balance point of cleaning house and targeted cleaning house do to a lack of effectiveness.

    If worst case scenario is Hickey hires the next HC..what is the downside and upside?

    Clean house and toss it into Ross's hands to choose both..downside and upside?

    And keep in mind with Harbaugh, he missed spectacularly on Kaepernick's contract, we are coming to the same cross roads with Tannehill
     
  27. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    At first you don't succeed..
     
  28. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    To remain near to his ailing father, who has since passed away.
     
  29. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Wouldn't want to be taking a piss next to your urinal stall...
     
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  30. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Lol gotta love the ambiguous context of this thread
     
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  31. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    The Baltimore Colts knew what to do with a knucklehead head coach who couldn't win the big game. There was a reason they let him walk.
     
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  32. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    At this point, I try to temper my enthusiasm about any such hire. With Jimmy and Satan, I was so excited, imagining how many Super Bowls they'd each lead us to, only to end up feeling like I was kicked in the nuts when they left. From now, no matter who gets hired, I am as if from Missouri...ya gotta "Show Me"
     
  33. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    The Chargers looked like geniuses after firing Marty Schottenheimer after he took them to 15-1. Haven't done squat since.
     
  34. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Sounds like a dream scenario, but I am guessing some team will offer Rex a HC job.
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I agree. Better to think of this as doubtful, then if it happens be pleasantly surprised. Rather than get too hopeful and optimistic.
     
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  36. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    I was more depressed about Saban than Jimmy. Just never felt Jimmy had his heart in it. Couldn't build the team exactly how he wanted it. Never built an offense worth a damn around Dan and took away his audible option. Defense never fully put together either.

    Saban came from Bellicheat's tree and seemed to emulate that demeanor. I was really hoping he'd build our team back up and we'd give the Pats a taste of their own medicine. We were finally beginning to get respect back after the miserable Wanny years. That first year under Saban there was a lot of optimism. Once he left I couldn't believe it. All hope I had for this team was sapped instantly. I was somewhat excited about Parcells coming here, but the sting of Saban leaving left me never feeling too optimistic about who this team hires to lead it ever again. I wasn't surprised at all Parcells left and his regime failed. Saban's departure ripped out whatever confidence and respect this team had and was followed by many embarrassing moments, from 1-15 to the current mess we have with Philbin's December swoons.
     
  37. jinx

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    He hasn't shown he can close yet.

    The biggest issue with Harbaugh is getting him to leave the Bay Area. Albert Breer noted that while Harbaugh prefers living in the Bay Area he also wants to be one of the highest paid coaches, and Breer isn't sure Oakland will pony up the cash. Should be interesting to watch.
     
  38. djphinfan

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    jimmys heart wasn't in it...sabans heart definitely wasn't in it..parcells heart is black.

    my hope is that were not convincing anyone to coach our team..
     
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  39. jinx

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    Jimmy's heart was in it in the beginning. Saban's heart was in it until he realized he picked the wrong QB. Parcells was a PR hire. He was on his way to Atlanta and Huizenga wet his pants and gave a boatload of money to a coach who was great 25 years ago to run personnel. Just a bad decision, which was Wayne's specialty.
     
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  40. djphinfan

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    ''good things good things.''
     

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