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Do you approve of the job Head Coach Joe Philbin is doing? (Weekly Poll)

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bpk, Dec 15, 2014.

Do you approve of the job Head Coach Joe Philbin is doing?

Poll closed Dec 21, 2014.
  1. Yes

    8 vote(s)
    10.7%
  2. No

    67 vote(s)
    89.3%
  1. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    He didn't get fired after 10-6.

    He was 1-8 when he stepped down.
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    So it's like a backward-bending demand curve. A guy becomes such a joke that his popularity actually inches back up.
     
  3. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    The real joke is people who arent in the building, don't study tape, never played, never coached, etc. actually believing that they know whether the coach is doing a good job, to the point they're insulting anyone who doesnt agree.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    theres a lot of stuff on the record that this staff wanted dion jordan to beef up and play more def end..do you agree with that?
     
  5. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    You've got to be f**king joking...

    EDIT: We aren't all a bunch of morons here. Most of the members of this message board are very smart when it comes to OUR team.
     
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  6. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    No, I think Jordan should be an OLB in a 3-4.
     
  7. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I'm not questioning anyone's intelligence or passion for the team. I'm talking about whether we as fans have the necessary info to make an accurate assessment.
     
  8. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Obviously we know at least just as much as they do because we haven't been relevant in a long time. This team gets more wrong than right, sometimes the solutions to our problems are so obvious to most of us but yet our team can't seem make good decisions year in and year out. We keep being told by people like you to "shut up they know what they're doing." After witnessing the incompetence of this team for two decades now, I'm no longer convinced that the clowns running this show are no more knowledgeable about football than our resident experts. We've been slowly back treading into Browns/Raiders territory for awhile now. It is no longer a given to just trust the "experts" making the decisions.
     
  9. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    That would mean you don't either and thus have no right to defend the staff.
     
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  10. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    How does what happened decades ago fit into the conversation about what the current staff is doing?
     
  11. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I'm defending the truth not the staff.
     
  12. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I get that, and think about being cognizant of that all the time..but we get to see their evaluations and the players performances just like they do, we get to watch the film just like they do, we get to see every interview, were not completely void of information to make decent assessments.

    I do think coaching is the hard part..talent evaluations are easy..
     
  13. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Because people like you keep saying year after year to trust those in charge and be satisfied with the status quo. After all we've been through as Dolphin fans, we can no longer just bury our heads in the sand and hope the Front Office & Coaching Staff know what they're doing.
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    it doesn't..and Mcquack should know that..
     
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    good point..and I think thats where Honda makes his mistake..have an opinion based on what you know, thats what we do here.
     
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  16. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Because while every year is different, this season ended the same way every season with the exception of 2007 & 2008 when the playoffs were in our control until we blew it and our head coach is just as responsible as the players. All I'm saying is while none of us are experts, we have every right to question our current staff as they haven't done anything to suggest they know what they're doing. I can't stand it when people like PH get on their soapbox and tell us to just trust those leading our team and that we have no idea about anything, when the problems with our team are clear as day and in some aspects the solutions are just as clear. We all know Dallas Thomas, for example, should've been benched for his atrocious performance. When Albert went down, we should've looked at guys who were available just in case who we have wasn't up to snuff. We all know Daniel Thomas is garbage. We know Hartline isn't fitting into what we're doing on offense, and guys behind him are/were playing better(but not much admittedly). We know that calling timeouts in the 4th quarter when you have the opposing team on the ropes is detrimental to the outcome of the game. We know the team keeps coming out flat and only playing one half of football every week. We know that for two seasons in a row now(I'll give them a pass for 2012), we controlled our destiny for a playoff spot and blew it. These things are obvious to most of us who have been paying attention. I'm sick of the apologists every year who are blinded to the serious issues surrounding this year each and every season. I'm all for being patient and letting things play out, but after awhile you have to call a spade a spade. Just like last year when it was clear as day Ireland needed to go and the Ireland apologists came out and told us detractors to "Shut up, the Dolphins staff know more than the fans!" The status quo isn't working, just like 2013, 2011, 2007, 2006, 2004, 2000....
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    Many of us have been around and involved enough to know there's nothing mystical about the decision-making quality that goes on "in the building".

    We absolutely have enough information to make accurate judgments. Whether we do or not, that's part of the art. Where Piston Honda is using his ignorance of what goes on behind the closed doors as a shield to claim nobody knows anything, I'm using my knowledge of what goes on behind the closed doors to insist there's no magic back there and more times than not things are what they appear, even from the "outside".
     
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  18. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    I am still amazed at how many Podcast/Radio host "NFL talking head experts" flat-out love Philbin as a Football coach, love the job he has done in Miami, and admire the direction he is taking the team. Just amazed. They flat out feel if Ross fires him, then it says more about Ross as a bad "new" owner, grasping at straws, knee jerk reactions, while learning how to be an owner by continuously making mistakes, and firing Philbin would be another mistake by Ross.

    They point to the Steelers Organization about stability at Coach and FO, etc. But damn, while I agree Ross is a bad owner to date, I cant agree that Philbin is a solid coach worth retaining.
     
  19. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Your posts have always come across as well thought out and a lot of your observations and predictions have come true. I'd say you have a better pulse on what's going with this team than even most of our beat writers do. Why some people consistently insist on defending the status quo of this team year after year when you and some others keep stating the obvious facts baffles me.
     
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  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    all good points, as long as you have fairly judged this coach without the past influencing your decision, it has to be as simple as that, even a bit more patient, considering our past, Honda and a few others do seem to go to the extreme to protect the staff based on his theory that we shouldn't be judging such critical decision from our position..There are things we can put together based on what we see, our experiences, and some inside knowledge that we know..Coaches are a bit tougher then Gm's so I don't discount his point, I find myself walking that thin line of not speaking about something I'm not sure of..Ive heard him question himself, so I have to take that seriously.
     
  21. Bpk

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    Toronto Mayor Rob Ford.

    That's Philbin right now, minus the crack and laughs.


    My two cents via iPhone.
     
  22. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    While it not come across as fair, it's impossible to not look at the past and then the present with this staff. We've all seen this movie before. Every offseason is the same for us. We're still trying to solve issues that go back years with this team.
     
  23. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Former Presidents too. When they leave office, everyone hates them. A few years later and people start getting nostalgic. Sometimes people get into the mentality of "devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. You might hate your boss now, but the new boss could be worse. I can see why people get into that way of thinking, it happens in real life often enough.
     
  24. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    People like me? LOL. Your head seems buried in a place much more unpleasant than sand.
     
  25. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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  26. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure? It appears as though jumping to conclusions then searching for info to support them is what we do here.
     
  27. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Back at ya.
     
  28. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Because I'm sick of mediocre coaches?
     
  29. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    some do some don't..

    so for you the players came up short because of injuries right?
     
  30. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Be very afraid of who Ross hires next though.. I want Philbin fired but man.. This is the same idiot that fired Sparano and hired the same exact coach as Sparano. Philbin showed up to the interview, flaunted his knowledge in a career as of an offensive line coach, told Ross he used to prep video and get notes ready per seat for Packer team film study, and then showed him a 600 page book titled Mediocrity, which is a book of notes he took over his twp decade career on how to suck and it sold Ross.

    Ross fires Sparano to hire the same guy. Genius
     
  31. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    you are the one to listen to, child please.
     
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  32. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Sparano and Philbin are about as different as any two coaches can be.
     
  33. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    In a nutshell, yes. Moreno and Albert specifically. Misi, Ellerbe, every DB except for Grimes. Ive said before we were a fringe playoff team to begin with, we needed to play well and stay healthy to have a realistic shot.
     
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  34. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Because you're fixated on one part of the issue while excluding many, many others.
     
  35. OkiePhin

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    Of course after losing a game in the fashion we lost, its tough to say you are happy with anyone in the organization. I voted yes though only because there is no unsure or neutral option. Gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. Why? The team obviously came out fired up and his timeout calls before the half were the reason we only trailed by 1 point at the half. The second half we were out played, plain and simple. A bounce off the hands for an interception here and a missed touchdown catch there, before you know it we are in a position where we have to throw and go for it on all 4 downs. I didnt see any damning mistakes during the game by Philbin. If you want to argue that it's his fault that players aren't performing well enough against a dynasty team who is picked to go to the superbowl this year, well thats your prerogative I guess but not how I chose to decide on this vote.
     
  36. brandon27

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    He's not the mayor anymore :tongue2:
     
  37. Makados10

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    Voted Yes but I caveat that with winning the last two games to finish 9-7. At the beginning of the year, I thought we were still an 8-8 team +/- a win or two depending on injuries, luck, etc. If my expectation was a 1 win improvement and we reach 9-7, I could see giving Philbin another year with Lazor/Hickey. Of course if SF parts with Harbaugh, Ross will clean house.
     

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