Michigan Offering Harbaugh Nearly $50 Million for their head coaching Job

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My concern with Harbaugh as coach is that I am worried that his style may burn out the players. You may be buying a coach who gives you 3 or 4 very good years then leaves the Franchise a burning wreck (like Buddy or Rex Ryan)
I want a Bellicheck or Shula who will give us decades of excellence.

 

Sorry but I have no idea why you think Harbaugh would burn out the players after 3 or 4 very good years. Because based on how the Dolphins have collapsed at the end of the season the past couple of years, it appeared the players on this team are burned out and they are only a mediocre team right now.

The Jets aren't burned out because of Rex. They are a lousy team because the have no decent QB's on their roster and the GM has done a terrible job of providing Ryan with talent on the offensive side of the ball.

I find it hilarious that you are concerned that Harbaugh might give the fans 3 or 4 years of very good football, and then leave the team a burning wreck.

You say you want another Belichick or Shula instead. Well please let all of us know exactly who that might be. Because I am sure every team who is going to be hiring a new head coach in a few weeks would love to be able to hire the next Shula or Belichick.

To me, Harbaugh is by far the best head coaching candidate available at this time. After a decade and a half of basically mediocre play on the field. I am certainly ready for your 3 or 4 years of very good football by this team. Even if it was to be followed by a short period of down years again.

The reality is that only the Patriots have been able to sustain a long period of winning in this modern age of football. While all of us would love to see the Dolphins be able to get to the level of the Patriots. Belichick isn't available to become the Dolphins head coach and Brady isn't going to be the Dolphins QB next year. So give me Harbaugh, because I feel he is one of the top five coaches in the NFL right now and in the right situation, I believe he just might be the next Bill Belichick.

 

And maybe good for us and bad for the niners. I am happy that they are getting rid of him and hopefully he gives us a shot. I think the owners in San Francisco did not do their homework, they should be firing Baalke and keeping Harbaugh and going after Gamble but Shhhh.

 

Harbaugh's "Who's got it better than us?" actions and antics very well could wear thin sooner rather than later. His longest tenure at one location is what 5yrs?

I want to see Dolphin's return to winning ways, so will gladly take him and accept that it could be similar to 49ers rocket rise, and then fizzle burn out.

I can see wanting the next 20-30yr Shula guy (and the similarities to Shula leaving Colt's after beef with ownership while taking them to Championship game but falling short, and Harbaugh with 49ers is interesting)...but if we only get 5yrs so be it.

All the above not-withstanding, I put zero hope on Ross pulling this off, and even frankly concerned if Ross can convince Harbaugh to sit across from him this 2nd go round after the blunder of the past approach.

 

The 30 year Shula guys do not exist anymore.

Belichick isn't going to be around another 20 years and he's probably the closes thing.

 

the point is, most fans just want to see the Head Coach "Tenure" to eventually return to being longest in the NFL whenever the list is posted, etc. Could be 8yrs, could be 15yrs, etc...better than 3 and out, or 5 and under.

 

Honest question, what did Ross do the last go around that would piss off Harbaugh? As far as I know Ross offered him a job, he declined and took another. If anyone would be feeling scorned it should be Ross.

 

My 2 cents...Each stop has been ascending towards his ultimate goal of being in the NFL, which arrived during his tenure at SF. He hasn't been fired or left on bad terms anywhere except for all of sudden this year in SF he's a difficult coach to work with. I personally think he's an NFL coach who just happened to have a ton of success in college. In other words, he's just a damn good coach on any level.

I will give SF's front office props though, for doing their best to leak certain things this year about his perceived style and personality that will help justify their release or trade of him. Something I haven't seen mentioned as much, is the fact that Jim hasn't leaked info on his end. Almost like he's taking the punches from the front office via the media, but not retaliating. That says a lot about his character to me.

If he ends up in Miami, then he'll have his choice of front office personnel, so I wouldn't be worried about the same issues he's having in SF.

 

Its been documented multiple times throughout these forums, but offering a job to him while having a HC already in place because you havent fired him therefore failing to create a vacancy sets a horrible tone ~ what HC would accept a job from a owner acting in such a devious and unprofessional manner, knowing it could happen to them.

Let alone having a boob GM in toe contributed to Ross coming off like a boob himself for other reasons. I am also convinced that Ross's other boob-like mistakes in handing other items seeming each year of his ownership and many that became publicly known doesnt give anyone meeting him warm and fuzzies that he has a clue about NFL and what it would be like working for him.

Ross has set a beyond-poor tone as an NFL owner. That is a fact. His reputation is tough to overcome from this past blunders.

 

I got him going to the raiders..hope I'm wrong.

 

Can you imagine if Jim goes to OAK....Rex goes to ATL....other candidates (Bowles, Quinn) go elsewhere....and Philbin stays in MIA....Yep, that'd be my worst case scenario.

 

I won't bame Ross if he goes to the raiders or Michigan..Both of those locations are heart and family related..

 

I don't think anybody would. I don't want Harbaugh in Miami if he doesn't want to be there (i.e. Saban).

I'm just preparing for the option of Philbin remaining our coach. That will be a tough sell to the fan base, now that other, more prominent names have emerged.

 

ITs also been reported a number of times that real reason he didn't take the job was because of his wife.

 

She met Ross too?

 

Just a side note on Harbaugh and QBs:

He also recruited RGIII pretty hard, and wanted a two-QB system with both Luck and RGIII. Imagine how tough that would have been to defend?

 

I can imagine it because it has happened to us before and we settled for the 300th candidate for the GM position lol also Philbin was definitely not the top choice. Ross wanted Harbaugh way before him and then a year later wanted Fisher.

 

And in hindsight both McCoy and Zimmer were both the better candidates over Philbin... (After Fisher) and ross passed on both. Im on record to saying bring Zimmer in Miami..

 

Limited, whether intentional or not, almost always means black QB.

 

Bring in Harbaugh, give him the keys and let him build a winner, Ross isn't a penny pincher, so that is def. on our side, as far as tenure goes, I don't care if its one year or 30 years he's here, as long as we become relevant to the NFL in the time he's here. I hold most my hope with him then any other available candidate considering he took 2 different QB's to NFC Championship games in his first two seasons and went to 3 NFC Championship games all together in his first 3 years including a SB appearance. (43-18-1 NFL Record is pretty damn good too)

Having said that, he will more then likely want all the keys to the house, meaning, he will either want to be GM or hire his own, which I have no problem with, unless Hickey hits it off with him and sucks in his pride and doesn't mind playing second opinion in the room behind Harbaugh (just the feel you get from a guy like Harbaugh, especially after him and Baalke not getting along).

 

There is NO CHANCE he comes to Miami. NONE.

 

Philbin is a bad coach. There's no excuse for you not to know he is a bad coach at this point.

 

McCoy was intriguing because of his willingness to work with inherited coaches, schemes, and adapt to certain players. He won a freakn' playoff game as coordinator of a Tebow led offense.

Zimmer would've have been an interesting hire too, but his pairing Norv Turner with Tannehill may not have been a perfect match. Turner is a good offensive mind, but he runs a vertical offense which isn't Tannehill's strength. I still think he can become more consistent with it over time. Too strong of an arm not too be.

 

Wait, Tebow is black?!?

 

ESPN's Marcellus Whylly is reporting that two different sources he knows unaware of each other are saying Harbaugh has already agreed to go to Michigan.

 

Good to know the word almost now means always.

 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Philbin seems like a nice guy, but he's just an average coach.

I get where you're saying we could be stuck with some less appealing options if we can't get Harbaugh and the other top candidates, but is that really a good enough reason for wanting to keep your current, average head coach? I'd be a little more open-minded about Philbin if it was his idea to remove Sherman as OC and not others above him. Imagine another year of Tannehill in that antiquated offense.

 

I don't see it. Like the Niners, it is another dysfunctional owner and franchise. It is really is. The Niners had 3 years of stability since Eddie D was forced out, and they blew it. This will not be a destination for coaches nor a competitive team going forward.

The Davis' have a net worth under 500 mil., so how can they give a 100 mil contract with a team that hemorrhages money. And why would Harbaugh go there and risk another mess. I can't see the agents and advisors allowing Jim to trust the Davis spawn.

Hey honey, sometimes you have to sacrifice for the family good.

 

Keeping Philbin is basically Ross telling the fans that none of the quality head coaching candidates have any desire to work for him.

It would also be a statement that Ross is willing to settle for mediocre as long as Philbin remains the head coach of the Dolphins. The reality is that as long as Philbin remains with the Dolphins, we will continue to have the same discussion every year he is here.

We will constantly be asking when Ross is going to fire Philbin and hire a coach who can come in and turn this team into a winner. Continuity makes sense only if you feel your team is heading in the right direction under the present leadership. Unfortunately under the leadership of Philbin, this team seems to be stuck in mediocrity.

I would rather risk the chance of being back here in a few years discussing the failures of the coach who replaced Philbin than continue with Philbin as this teams head coach. At least a new head coach gives fans hope that he can turn this team into a winner. Philbin has clearly shown over the past three years that he just isn't the right man for the job.

 

I hate to say it but over the past six years, Ross has shown himself to be a dysfunctional owner. If Harbaugh is looking for an ownership which appears functional, he should probably choose the Giants or Bears if those jobs open up and he is offered the head coaching position for one or both these teams.

Heck, I think the Jets ownership has shown over time that it is much more functional than the ownership of the Dolphins.

Harbaugh is my first choice to replace Philbin, but I have no confidence that Ross can convince Harbaugh to take the job.

 

If these reports turn out to be true, it would surprise me a great deal that Harbaugh decided to return to college coaching. I realize he graduated from Michigan and he is being offered a lot of money to go back and be the head coach. I just figure at this stage of his career he would prefer the NFL over college football.

If this is true, Ross needs to turn his head coaching search into doing whatever is necessary to hire either Todd Bowles or Rex Ryan. To me, they are the best available candidates if Harbaugh is no longer in the selection process for the Dolphins.

 

FWIW he also tweeted this a couple of hours later:

Marcellus Wiley @marcelluswiley ·
Sorry for causing stir with my Harbaugh tweet. Will leave breaking news reporting to the experts.

 

Ross has not landed his guy in the past, and has had football related issues, but Ross commands a lot of respect in the real world. For a guy like Harbaugh coming in, this is not a dysfunctional environment. He will get the keys to the kingdom, and answer to no one but Ross, who is only willing to help while staying out of his way. No financial issues, no power issues, no cold, and no state tax. It ill be a dream scenario for a coach like Harbaugh. Don't mistake failing to get his guy(s) as dysfunction.

 

I have a great deal of respect for what Ross has done in the Business world. I just think that as an NFL owner, he has been rather clueless in the past six years.

Everyone knows about how he went after Harbaugh the first time, while Sparano was still the head coach. After failing to hire Harbaugh, Ross flew back to Miami and signed Sparano to a new extended contract. That made absolutely no sense at all.

Whether you liked the idea of hiring Fisher or not. The fact is that Ross failed to hire Fisher and instead stuck with Ireland as the GM and ended up hiring Philbin. A coach which had zero experience as a head coach at any level of football.

It took Ross five years as the owner of the Dolphins before he finally fired Ireland. Most everyone else in South Florida realized that Ireland was a terrible GM at least two years before Ross finally realized it.

Hickey MAY eventually prove to be a good hire as the GM, but he was only hired after all the top candidates showed no interest in the job.

Hopefully Ross has learned from his past mistakes as an NFL owner and this time he will have success hiring the right man for the head coaching position. I have felt for the past two years that the major problem with this organization is ownership. I just don't trust Ross when it comes to hiring the best individuals to run the football side of the organization.

I do hope he proves me wrong with his next pick as the Dolphins head coach, but based on past experience, I just think he will keep Philbin or end up hiring someone who will probably be a similar type candidate to what Philbin was three years ago.

That would be a coach who will be willing to accept the present structure in the front office of the Dolphins. This new head coach will be willing to keep Hickey as the GM because it will probably be the only head coaching offer he will receive and Ross will force him to work with Hickey, if he wants the head coaching job.

This has been the procedure Ross has utilized in the past and I doubt he will change it during the upcoming coaching search.

 

Not in the football world, which is what matters here.

 

I agree with pretty much everything here. As an owner, we have to worry if Ross is gonna Ross again. He has failed a lot in he early going. But he individually commands respect, and he can offer a blank canvas in a non-toxic atmosphere, with no meddling and a giant piggy bank. I am hoping we see soon, why he is the accomplished man that he is. I don't think he will let anything hold him back from going after what he wants.(Sparano...Irish...Hickey..Aponte)

 

Actually there is a real interesting answer to that.........in the Club Level.

This is a real good time to grab a 6 month subscription to the Club. From the leaks right thru the draft. Don't know what I would do without it.