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A Sound, Well Constructed Argument Why It Is Good That Philbin Is Retained

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Sethdaddy8, Dec 21, 2014.

  1. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Please provide one somebody. Aside from "continuity." Why is it good for the Miami Dolphins that he will be the coach next year? I know there are fans out there who like this. Why do you like this?
     
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  2. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Because on one side of the ball we looked good beating the 6-win Vikings. Obviously.

    Sorry...to be serious...Ensuring that we keep Lazor is all I got.
     
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  3. jcliving

    jcliving Active Member

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    It will be good to see Lazor develop as a an OC. It will be good to see if Hickey and Philbin can have an even better offseason.
     
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  4. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Um.. We get to read all of Dez's bat**** crazy posts Bout how this means "Championship" next season
     
  5. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I'm just going to say this. All we heard going into the season and even during the season is that the players don't like Philbin. That is clearly not the case. Most had his back.

    Will it mean anything? We'll find out over the next year.
     
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  6. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    If the argument is "to keep Lazor" then why not promote Lazor to HC. Keeping Philbin to keep Lazor seems a bit redundant.
     
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  7. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I have all the confidence in world in Lazor. So much so, I can't see him being here for more than 1-2 more seasons. This is about Philbin, and ANYTHING other than continuity. Continuity for us is 7-9, 9-7
     
  8. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Stephen Ross is stupid?

    Honestly.... there isn't one other than that.
     
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  9. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    So they win what amounts to a meaningless game for him? Had they won against Baltimore, they would be playing a win and in game next week.
     
  10. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    This is what I got...






































    Sounds good, no?
     
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  11. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    If you can't see why Philbin is being retained then you might need to revisit why you ever thought he should be fired to begin with.
     
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  12. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    The locker room floor will be spotless
     
  13. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    There weren't many other options, weren't going to get Harbaugh, and settling on some coach that was lower on their list (like Philbin was when they hired him) could just put Miami in the same mediocre place with a different coach for another 3 years?

    So by keeping Philbin maybe: 1. They actually do well next year or 2. They probably don't, Philbin gets fired, and they get a TOP coach that they actually wanted in the first place. So...2015 might suck, but lead to a better 2016? I don't know... they fail year after year so I just expect this to end in disaster, but possibly lead to a better future.
     
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  14. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    One good thing I just mentioned in the other thread -

    Since both Philbin and Hickey will have had 2 seasons together - If Miami fails in 2015 as fans we will almost be guaranteed a brand new regime. No hold overs, no lame ducks.
     
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  15. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Those things are coincidental to Philbin being retained, they've got nothing to do with his performance as head coach.
     
  16. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's what we should have had after last season though....
     
  17. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    There isn't a sound, well constructed logical reason to keep Philbin. Ross is a total moron when it comes to football.
     
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  18. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Stephen Ross is our owner. With him, you have to let him fail repeatedly and HOPE he learns his lesson.
     
  19. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Yes, but they settled for partial measures. I'd assume he wants the whole group to have some time to gel, rather than starting from scratch again...
     
  20. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Players get tucked in on a nightly basis.

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  21. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    As confident as you are in the thought that you think he should stay, you're awfully slow to give your "sound, well constructed argument" as to why... I'm sure we'd all love to hear it. We could all use a good laugh. I'm confident you wont though.
     
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  22. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry bro, sitting here in December of 2014...I can't view this as a positive.

    All we will have to endure. The good games, he false hope. And the collapse. The heart break. Knowing we really, truly, can't compete when it counts. It's a hard thing former to sit on for an entire year.
     
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  23. jw3102

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    If they can't get a top head coach after this season, what makes you think they would be able to hire a top head coach after next season?

    Personally I don't think Ross has any idea how to go about hiring a quality head coach. He probably realized that only mediocre head coaches are willing to work for him and since he already has a mediocre head coach he likes, he decided to just stick with Philbin.

    My prediction for the 2015 season is 8-8 and the Dolphins will once again fail to make the playoffs. Ross will then reward Philbin with a new three year contract.
     
  24. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    You avoided the question, and are in an over-whelming minority in your thoughts. You specifically, I would like to know why this pleases you.
     
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  25. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for trying, sincerely. Harbaugh will be out there, Rex Ryan will be out there. I do think there are better options than Philbin. Ross should at least try. You did provide something though. Like I said, I can see us scoring over 400 points and making the play-offs next year, and I can see Lazor shipping off as a HC shortly after. And that will leave us in a miserable place.
     
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  26. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Clicked on this link expecting a 20 paragraph writing on why Philbin should be brought back. Instead no one has any good reasons to keep him.
     
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  27. 3Pmi

    3Pmi IT Specialist Staff Member Administrator

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    Are those coaches not available this year or something?
     
  28. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    Because everyone wants to keep Lazor as OC. the only way to keep Lazor as OC is to keep Philbin.
     
  29. 3Pmi

    3Pmi IT Specialist Staff Member Administrator

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    Exactly this. If the only reason you keep Philbin around is Lazor... you just make Lazor the head coach. That way you don't get into a situation where we have success next year, sign Philbin to a 3-4 year extension, have Lazor leave to be a HC and end up right back a square one with Philbin.
     
  30. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for for the offer/challenge but WADR that's a fool's errand. Save us both some time and just bump the anti-Ireland threads from this time last year. Then ask yourself how many of those errors can be erased in a single season...

    If that's not enough study some tape like I do for several hours per week. Its not rocket science you just have to put the time in. Or you can stick with believing you know better than the pros and people with far more info than you have.

    You say I'm confident but that's a lie. I have a very humble opinion on what goes on with the Dolphins. That's a far cry from those who instinctively call "idiot" anytime the team doesn't do what they want.
     
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  31. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Lol. No one wants to waste their time, duh.
     
  32. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    You literally are Piston Honda. You speak but say nothing. Sushi. Kamikaze. Fujiyama. Nippon. Ichi.
     
  33. RoninFin4

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    This team is basically f***** until Stephen Ross dies.
     
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  34. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Youre right, I am certainly in the minority on the issue. I'm also in the minority when it comes to other things, like studying game film weekly. FTR I would shed zero tears if Philbin was fired. I mainly prefer he stay to complete Tannehill's development. If RT reaches his full potential in the next 2-3 years pretty much any HC will do.
     
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  35. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Sleep it off bro. The sun will come up tomorrow.
     
  36. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Finally SOMETHING. Thank you.
     
  37. jw3102

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    You do realize that there are relatives of Philbin on this forum don't you? I imagine Piston Honda is probably one of those relatives and that is why he thinks Philbin is such a great HC.

    Because no objection person could look at the coaching of Philbin over the past three years and come to any other conclusion than he is an average head coach. His record of 23-24 over the last three years is about as mediocre as it gets.

    Some people are satisfied with mediocre and have no problem with the owner retaining a coach who isn't good enough to get his team in the playoffs, but at least wins half their games every year.

    I assume these are the same individuals who were told by their parents when they were young that it was okay to bring home all C's on their report card. When being mediocre in your own life is acceptable, you certainly don't want to place higher expectations on others.

    I guess my problem with Philbin and this entire team is that being average is just not acceptable to me. I don't mind a B game every now and then, but I expect A's for the vast majority of their games each season. To me C or below games are never acceptable.
     
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  38. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    This is exactly how I feel. Tannehill is far more important to our success than the head coach.
     
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  39. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I am as angry as I've been in quite a while as a fan. I am angry because I want to be a relevant football team. I care, too much probably. I started this thread, not to have little mini Philbin wars. Those will transpire all over the site and internet. I am trying to find SOME peace in all of this. Somebody, tell me why this is good. Why its better than a white whale like Harbaugh who will be available. Or a coach like Rex, who I HATE, but succeeded with far worse OC's and QBs. Help me people.
     
  40. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    I'm gonna preface this by saying I want Philbin gone as much as the next guy. But, maybe Ross is thinking if Philbin falls short next year, he'll just promote Lazor rather than hire someone from outside the organization? Maybe he wants to give Philbin one last chance (and honor the term of his contract) because he likes him, but sees Lazor as his potential successor long term? Honestly, that's all I can come up with. That, and he's (Ross) just a total freakin' moron.
     
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