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Kevin Coyle on Bears coaching list?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by speed, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Reading the article, it seems like a service for NFL assistants to get their name out there more than anything.

    To that end though, if you and I as Joe Fan can know absolutely who all of these guys are and who has a good rep as a coach, WTF does an NFL franchise need an outside service for? Are you telling me a large corporation that an NFL team is doesn't have its own people involved in knowing the ins and outs of every franchise in the league?
     
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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Please, take him.
     
  3. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    If I disliked Coyle I would take this as a sign he's maybe not as bad as I thought.
     
  4. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    As someone who dislikes Coyle (and pretty much has from day 1), I find solace in the fact there may be a franchise dumber then we are for keeping him employed. :)
     
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  5. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    Chicago management is, to put it simply, not very bright. Bruce Arians had some telling info about their past coaching search.

    The best possible and most realistic hire they can make is Rex Ryan. He is a bright enough coach, has a family connection to the team, went to high school up the street and can coach the hell out of a defense. The team is reportedly not interested and instead looks toward Coyle?
     
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  6. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    They are not interested in Rex Ryan.
     
  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    So because Cam Cameron and Tony Sparano, for instance, both got jobs elsewhere, means they should have stayed in Miami?
     
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  8. Skidrow

    Skidrow New Member

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    If Coyle did this poorly with a talented defense, i can only imagine what chicagos defense would look like...
     
  9. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    We're we that talented this year?

    He had a defense without Jones for 4 games.

    Without Finnegan for 4 games. A Finnegan that was one of the worst corners in football the year and a half prior. And wasn't the same when he came back from injury this year even.

    Without Delmas for 3 1/2 games. An average safety anyways.

    Without Darnell Ellerbe for 15 games.

    Without Misi for 5 games.

    WITH Wheeler.

    WITH what looked to be an aging Starks.

    without Will Davis and Jamar Taylor for a good stretch. I mean for gods sake we had RJ Stanford starting for us. As well as Jason Trusnik, Jimmy Wilson, Kelvin Sheppard.

    Not saying Coyle wasn't bad this year, but let's not act as if he took the Seattle Seahawks defense and output crap.
     
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  10. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Vic Fangio had it ten times worse in San Fran with injury and suspensions...... but his unit still finished top 10 scoring.
    Miami's defensive talent was in no way, shape, or form equal to their 20th ranking.
    It's like flipped. Coyle took a top 10 talent D to a 20th ranking, and Fangio took a bottom 20 talent D [after all its injury] to a top 10 ranking.
     
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  11. bran

    bran Senior Member

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  12. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I've never liked him either, thought we shoulda stayed with the 3-4. Sparano had a pretty good DB coach who could have stayed behind to run it for us :up:.
     
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  13. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I'll say it. Coyle wasn't bad this year.

    On paper we have talent but we're still running 4-3 with a bunch of 3-4 personnel b/c Ireland and Philbin couldn't play nice. Plus the injuries? Very few coaches could have made it work.
     
  14. Desides

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    It's not the head coach's job to coach the hell out of a specific unit. That's the coordinator's job.

    I really wish this forum would stop overhyping Rex Ryan's HC abilities. He's a very good DC, but a poor figurehead of an HC who fails to correct his deficiencies outside of his comfort zone by hiring the correct coordinators. This is a guy who ran with Brian Schottenheimer and Marty Mornhinweg as his OCs, and thought they could get a lot out of Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, and Michael Vick.

    I feel like everyone here has "grass is greener" syndrome, especially when comparing the personality of Philbin to the personality of Ryan.
     
  15. Skidrow

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    Yes, our defense is notably more talented then chicagos though. And not having ellerbee for 15 games isnt a loss imo. Even with the injuries we suffered, a good DC would have this group having around top 10 in points allowed for the season, or at least close to it because we still have high end impact players like wake, grimes, vernon, etc... i dont know i just think our defensive failures are more a result of the scheme failing our the players not buying in as oppossed to a lack of talent.
     
  16. Skidrow

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    Even with injuries, i still dont see how you can excuse giving up an average of over 30 points per game down the stretch, when your team is fighting for a playoff birth. Every team has injuries, its not an excuse for a collapse
     
  17. NyPhinfan

    NyPhinfan Season Ticket Holder

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    All I can say that both players and coaches on the defensive side were responsible for the collapse of this "elite" defense. Players constantly sniping at coaches through the press for lack of gameplanning and adapting and players playing like they had no idea how to tackle or remember their assignments
     
  18. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    They owe us for Wannstedt
     
  19. 77FinFan

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    I have questions about the DB coach, Anaruma.
     
  20. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    It's a matter of preferring a guy who can do one thing really well over a guy who does nothing really well. The dream scenario is obviously Rex as DC but you have to take Rex as a HC to get his defense. I'd still do it.
     
  21. MikeHoncho

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    He should get every glowing recommendation from the organization.

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  22. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Please... I would love to have Wannstedt as head coach over Philbin.
     
  23. Fin4Ever

    Fin4Ever Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That would be nice to have Rex as our HC/DC with him giving total control over the offense to Lazor
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    No, that's not the dream scenario. The dream scenario is Gus Malzahn or Jim Harbaugh as head coach, and then whoever they bring along for the ride.

    Organizations rot from the head down. Having a really good DC is meaningless if the person at the top stinks.
     
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