C.J. Anderson Just Made It In Pro Bowl Over Lamar Miller

True, but many think CJ was special.

 

with all the issues we have I would not want Gordon we already have a 1000 yard back.

 

Should be called the popular bowl because Pro doesn't always ring true.

 

Andy Dalton just made the Pro Bowl.

Andy. Dalton.

He didn't even throw 20 TDs this season... what a joke.

 

They could have added Tannehill, Flacco, or Eli Manning and I would have thought "alright, worthy addition considering the circumstances" but nope.

 

joe flacco is the on that should feel slighted.

 

Well that run actually DID happen, so........

 

going 97 yards in a game deserves everything it entails, including rising his average, maybe cj doesn't have the speed to house it from 97.

 

Have they gotten rid of the AFC/NFC thing in the probowl? How is Eli in the mix

 

It absolutely should. It's a knock on Miller that he can't break a big one, so he broke one finally. That's a plus.

I get the other side of the argument though, but ypc is not the place to make that argument. We're talking about success rate. If he had 19 carries for 1 yard, and 1 carry for 81 yards, that gives him 20 carries for 100 yards and a 5 ypc.

But there is a stat for that, it's called success rate. I like Football Outsider's version of it. Miller had a 57% success rate, which ranks him #1 in the league which is awesome.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

CJ Anderson is top 10. As for DYAR, 4 vs 7. Again, I'm intrigued by CJ because he's shown the ability to run 30 times and keep his YPC up. Miller, someone posted a stat that showed his effectiveness go down as the carries go up. It'll be interesting if Miller is ever asked to carry it 25-30 times a game. He's been sitting around 15 this year.

 

No wonder. I pay zero attention to the pro bowl game now. It's such a joke.

 

I guess they are embarrassed by putting Pouncey in the game based on his substandard play this past season. They decided to even it out by leaving off one player from the Dolphins who deserved a spot in the Pro Bowl because they gave a spot to a Dolphin who didn't deserve to be in the game

Miller certainly deserved to make the game over Anderson, but the game is nothing but a popularity contest and right now Anderson and the Broncos are more popular than Miller and the Dolphins.

 

makes sense, he's a very good qb.

 

eh I dont blame them, they don't need to be knocking helmets in that game, risking injury..if fans just started to appreciate that fact without expectations then maybe they could find some enjoyment out of it..

 

Im nor upset that Dalton got in before Tannehill

 

that moved got them the best back in the game, but the Vikings never went anywhere either. I would prefer fix some needs instead.

 

Who seriously cares lol i think this was considered an honor back in 1995... Now its about making the All Pro teams, no one gives a crap about pro bowl.

 

Agree, the game itself is also almost un-watchable.

I'd rather watch a skills competition where guys are actually trying without fear of injury.

 

That's actually a really good idea.

 

I'm not upset but I would have had actually watched it if Tannehill got in.

 

The players do.

 

You just don't get it. If you were in a fantasy football league I doubt you would have started Miller over CJ. Why is that anyway? Maybe because Anderson was arguably the best RB statistically over the second half of the season.

Meanwhile, you're offended that our RB didn't make it when he put up pretty mediocre stats almost every game. The same RB that you want to replace with a 1st round pick. In your opinion, Miller is a pro bowl RB yet you are willing to waste a first round pick on a RB in spite of our glaring needs in other areas.

 

Not trying to drop the run. It was a valid point. CJ had a season avg of 4.74 and Miller was 4.67 without that run.

Miller finished up with 5.1 and that's great. The run counts. I was breaking down the stats for a frame of relativity that for the most part they had the same type YPC average all year.

Overall CJ simply was a more dominant player. If a RB gets 65 yards on 13 carries on average he does not belong in the pro bowl.

 

...and CJs long run was 27... Drop that and he's back down below Miller at 4.62...

Math is fun!

You have to take the totality and not play around with the numbers, IMO.

Seems to me that Anderson just doesn't have the "home run" ability...

 

So when they do the Pro Bowl draft, do you think Dalton will be the last one picked? (no pun intended)

 

That would be hysterical.

 

You are just reinforcing the fact that YPC should not be the deciding factor deciding who is the better RB. The YPC is a non factor in this case because they are so close.

Miller was barely a standout on his own team. He was completely underutilized. two 100 yard games in 16 starts?? Never a 20 carry performance. Never was he the main factor in a Dolphins win.

Anderson carried his team and won games because of him. He was probably the most dominant runner of the second half of the season. You can't say that about Miller.

850 yards............ Its not about that number. The real numbers are 6-1 as a starter and 767 yds. And 8 TD over the last 8 games of the season. Miller had 581 yards and 3 TD over same span.

Receiving last 8 games...
Miller.....................17-131 0 TD
Anderson ..............30-290 2 TD

 

Team record is a TEAM stat.

Miller was ABSOLUTELY underutilized, yet his stats are similar to the stud in Denver.

If our coaching staff had used him better, perhaps his stats would be even better than they were this year.

 

I can mostly agree with you on the record. Not a great point by me. I will say that Denver probably won 2 games because of him and Manning really struggled at the end of the year (4 TD and 6 INT in last 5 games)

Miller's stats are not similar to CJ. Only YPC is comparable. 345 more total yards, 13 catches, and 7 more TDs is a large discrepancy over an 8 game span.

You are right about the coaching staff. I would love to see what Miller can do with 25 + carries and more overall touches. He did nothing IMO to warrant not getting more opportunities. I wanted to draft Tre Mason last year, but this year I am not as concerned about RB because I really liked what I saw in Miller. He took a huge step forward in 2014.

 

You lost me on that. Again, that was just a frame of reference.

FF is a good measure of objectively looking at players statistically without the bias of favorite team. Based on what happened in 2014, CJ would get drafted first round now, while nobody gives a s*** about Denard Fricken Robinson.