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Suh or no Suh? That is the question.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by The Sportz Guy, Jan 30, 2015.

  1. The Sportz Guy

    The Sportz Guy New Member

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    Do you think forking out $100 million for Ndamukong Suh is a wise decision for the Dolphins? Does he provide more bang for your buck than Jared Odrick? Will he fit into the personality of the team Hickey and Philbin are building? Would he even want to come to Miami? Discuss.
     
  2. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Philbin and Suh would mix as well as water and oil.
     
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  3. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Philbin is G.O.N.E. after this season.
     
  4. LBsFinest

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    Who cares, Tannebaum probably knows he'll be firing Philbin in a year anyway.
     
  5. Maple Phin

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    Suh would be as worth the money, maybe more than the value the Bills got for Mario Williams.
     
  6. patcobb

    patcobb Active Member

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    I really want Suh
     
  7. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I think that whoever signs Suh should take a look at someone like Albert Haynesworth, who had a bit of a rep as a dirty player, but it was tolerated because he was a special player at his position. Then he got a big time FA contract to go to Washington and washed out shortly thereafter.

    Buyer beware with Suh. I want to like the guy (going back to his time at Nebraska), but the way he plays the game means that he is going to be under constant scrutiny. We don't need that here.
     
  8. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    I would love to get Suh. He is a disruptive force for a D. However, like a poster already mentioned, mixing him with Philbin is like mixing Vodka and Milk.
     
  9. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    No interest. If we're going to spend $100mm, I don't want a guy with questionable character. Besides winners in free agency usually mean losers in the regular season. As we've proven. We have too many needs to tie up that much money on one player. Very rarely do you get a good ROI on buying players in free agency.
     
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  10. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Add some Kahlua to that and you've got a White Russian. Which can actually be quite good.
     
  11. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Kahlua would of been a DC who could of handled Suh. Unfortunately, we have Coyle which is like adding Gasoline to that drink. LOL

    However, I'm still on board with adding Suh and creating this crazy 'drink'.
     
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  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Difference is Suh always plays hard.

    Still..no, no DT is worth that money
     
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  13. The Sportz Guy

    The Sportz Guy New Member

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    Wouldn't it be smarter to simply re-sign Odrick for $6-7 million per year to get a better return on your interest? You know Odrick will fit into the the team/has no character concern; plus, while he may not be as disruptive as Suh, he's pretty darn high on the list of DTs in the NFL. Is it really a smart business move to invest that much money into a defensive lineman unless his name is JJ Watt?
     
  14. jw3102

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    If if the choice is signing a very mediocre Odrick for 6-7 million dollars a year or Suh for a long term deal for 15-18 million a year, I will go with signing Suh any day of the week.

    Odrick just isn't worth 6-7 million dollars a year, IMO. He has been a very average player on a very average defense since he was drafted by the Dolphins. I wouldn't have any interest in him resigning with the Dolphins unless it is more in the 3-4 million a year range.

    I really don't see Suh wanting to come to Mami and play for a coach like Philbin. So I think the chance of him being in a Dolphin uniform next season is probably less than 1%.

    Until the new head coach arrives after next season, I don't see much changing in regards to the mediocre direction this team has been on since Philbin has been the head coach.
     
  15. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Yea, we don't need one of the top defensive players in the entire NFL. We love having a mediocre team and getting a player like Suh would only make it apparent how bad most of the other players on defense really are.

    The problem is that too many Dolphin fans have bought into the Philbin type player. That is a player who shows no emotion and is happy to pick up the gum wrappers Philbin missed on his daily tour to keep the field paper free. Philbin wants players to keep their mouths shut and who never question his mediocre coaching ability.

    Unfortunately these type players most often end up being as mediocre as their head coach.
     
  16. jason8er

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    You add Suh to our DL and a top notch MLB in the first round and, holy hell.
     
  17. djphinfan

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    If your going to blow your load, you better be good at filling out a roster with young college talent.

    The Suh way is a way to win, there are many ways to win, but building a dominating defense around him is an option..im not sure were in a position stability wise to lure a free agent of that caliber..
     
  18. RoninFin4

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    Not yet, but Miami can be depending on who they get rid of.

    I'm a proponent of Suh. All the way, every day, and twice on Sunday. Even Kevin Coyle can't screw that up...much.
     
  19. Piston Honda

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    Suh would be a great pick up...on Madden 16'.

    In real life it's a horrible idea, though I'm sure Dan Snyder would love it. You pay the guys who've developed in your system, with an occasional venture into FA to fill the gaps. I'd much rather pay Clay, Odrick, Vernon, Pouncey, Tannehill, than over pay for a guy like Suh.
     
  20. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Miami's problem is a lack of talent. Ndamukong Suh is an ELITE talent; he might be the best 3-technique in the NFL today. You don't pay Jared Odrick to be average-to-good to not pay Ndamukong Suh. You pay Suh, let Odrick walk, and watch how having Suh raises the level of play from Wake and especially Olivier Vernon.
     
  21. speed

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    Dude is an arrest/suspension begging to happen.

    No thanks.
     
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  22. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    yea. i don't normally comment on your off season moves, but this guy is a cancer for you.
     
  23. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Well, I would be scared if I was Tom Brady... The possibility of taking a hit from this guy and not to mention, the possible literal stomping Brady might take.
     
  24. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    newbies are so much fun, they talk the biggest game and drop the fastest.
     
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  25. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    That statement made no sense. Everyone here was a "newbie" at one point.
     
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  26. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    yup. so was I.

    but most don't last. i am betting you won't either.
     
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  27. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Im betting Suh makes Brady cry if we get him (in typical Brady fashion) and I bet the Pats are a twice convicted cheating orginization... Already won the latter bet. I hear Belicheck is getting ready to deploy spiked shoulder pads for the Super Bowl.
     
  28. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    lol. suh is not going to Miami.

    miami doesnt want him.


    i love the insults tho. i know better than to call you a classic dolphin fan, cause you're not. i've known these guys long enough to know better. you're either a throwaway account or too young to know better. hopefully its the second.
     
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  29. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    What insults? I stated facts, Patriots are a cheating orginization. Point.Blank.Period.

    Oh yea, I called TB12 a crybaby, but thats also another known fact.

    BTW, where did you get your crystal ball? Apparently you KNOW Suh won't be a Phin and you KNOW I won't be here very long, I cant wait to see how mad you'll be when your wrong.
     
  30. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    that's your go to, and its weak. the only reason you said it is because i am from new england, which is no fault of my own, but i have a loyalty to what i grew up with. i didn't attack you or anyone else here. but that's what you do, and the senoir members here will drive you out of here pretty quick.
     
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  31. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Your first post, the "newbie" post was a clear cut attack. All I said is TB12 would be scared to get stomped on and you took it to heart. So dont act like your taking some high road.
     
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  32. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    you did comment on my post first, but that's ok buddy.

    welp, i'll see you next year, i am sure!
     
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  33. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    I didn't personally attack you, like you did though... (This is a Miami Dolphins Forum, most here hate the Patriots, its in our bloodline, part of our DNA, just saying)
    [​IMG]
     
  34. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    you've been here for a month

    i've been here for 7 years, i'm familiar with the group here.

    you are obviously someone's alt on here with an agenda.
     
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  35. Laces Out

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    I know for a fact that Suh won't even look at Miami. He is looking for a huge deal in a big market like Dallas or NY. And the guy is a ticking time bomb of suspension/lawsuit/piss poor attitude. He is 100% about himself. He is a monumental *** until there is a good PR opportunity. As in, 'I'll fight the next white dude who looks at me' drunk. He was average his first few years in college, until Bo Pelini lit a fire under his *** about not making the league.

    Do not want no matter how talented he is.
     
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  36. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    thanks laces for proving my point.

    i guess the guy just wants to attack me for the fact i am a pats fan, which is fine. i hope you guys sigh suh now, cause that will eat up a lot of cap room when he is suspended. :yes:
     
  37. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Nope, first and only account on here, Agenda: Die Hard Dolphins fan who hates the Patriots, Bills, and Jets.:up:
     
  38. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    congratulations!
     
  39. Laces Out

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    No problem. Suh is a nightmare on the field...and everywhere else.
     
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  40. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    :party:
     

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