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Worst play call in NFL history?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bumrush, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    At least we still won that game lol
     
  2. ckparrothead

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    Switch "rollout" to an option play so that he could zone-read a player and make the decision to give to Marshawn Lynch if he thought it looked favorable, and that's the only pass I would have called. Have him zone-read a defensive player, give to Marshawn if it reads unfavorable, keep if it looks favorable, and either throw a stick pass if it's there, or roll to the right to find someone in the back of the end zone, throw the ball away, or run it in himself.
     
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  3. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you mean the now fad read option out of the shotgun, I respectfully disagree.

    I'm old school, but it should be a firing offense to go shotgun from the one, anytime before third down, and I don't like it even then.
     
  4. ckparrothead

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    Personally I'd have shortened the distance from Point A to Point B and rammed Marshawn Lynch for that yard. I'm just saying the only pass I'd have considered calling in that situation.

    Read option isn't a fad. It's solid, sound, fundamental football.
     
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  5. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    The point is IF you are going to call a pass play, that play would be a much better because it would give the option to run it, pass it, or have the QB keep it and run it in, rather then a pass play with just one option. That's IF you were going to run a pass play and I agree. I think we all agree that calling a pass play there was a bad idea.
     
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  6. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    At least fake it to Lynch for Christ's sake.
     
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  7. Fin-Omenal

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    For the second year in a row, Seattle managed to use homefield and some fortune to eliminate the best team in football. No doubt in my mind the Packers and 49ers win their respective SB matchups. Goes to show how critical home field advantage is in the playoffs.
     
  8. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Anybody saying anything than handing the rock to Beast Mode might be mentally handicapped. I'm certainly not putting my game in the hands of Russell Wilson.

    Way to give away the superbowl Carroll.
     
  9. vt_dolfan

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    Was Mike and Mike...Golic specifically....
     
  10. ckparrothead

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    He's full of sh-t.
     
  11. vt_dolfan

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    They had Chris Mathews, who was towering over the CBs. Pete Carol said his intention was to throw the ball on 2nd down because of clock management. If they got the TD fine..if not..fine..clock stops, allowing them to run the ball on 3rd down..call a time out and then set up for 4th down if needed. If that was the case, why not run the same play they did at the end of the first half. Mathews goes up for ball, TD. I dont see their DB making a pick on that play. Throwing it into the teeth of the Pats defense? Come on. Seriously...couldnt Wilson check out of that?
     
  12. vt_dolfan

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    He said the ball should have been thrown to the inside shoulder....not out in front. I dunno...to me that looks like it makes sense.
     
  13. shamegame13

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    At least not when they are on the 1 yard line, giving the ball to Beast Mode is the obvious play call they should of made.
     
  14. Fin-Omenal

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    The playcall was certainly questionable, but make no mistake the play was open (thanks to an illegal pick) he absolutely shouldve thrown the ball, it was his first read...and itvwas there.

    Not nearly enough credit is being given to Butler who made a play that not many DBs make, he deserves more credit than anyone deserves blame.
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    Throwing back shoulder on a bang-bang pass like that, that is only going to travel 9 yards through the air, is the perfect way to get the ball popped up and picked off.

    It's Ricardo Lockette's job to cross the DB's face and throw his body in for position. He screwed the pooch and Butler made a hell of a play. People making it more complicated than that are full of sh-t.
     
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  16. vt_dolfan

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    Anyhoot...time to focus on Dolphins draft!!!!
     
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  17. shamegame13

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    Lockette played soft on that play and it showed. He deserves to be the #4 or #5 WR on ANY TEAM. His play was despicable and should not be proud of it. I remember when he was known as a 'high talent' prospect, thats BS, this guy is horrible.
     
  18. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Like having a two headed coin in your hand and calling tails.
     
  19. cbrad

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    You probably just momentarily forgot about the (unfathomable amount of) blame the Seattle coach/coaches deserve while writing that.
     
  20. McLovin

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  22. djphinfan

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    if wilsons performance didn't raise your level of respect for him in you and the others minds then let's just move on
     
  23. Ohio Fanatic

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    have to agree with DJ on this one. Wilson played really well last night. went toe-to-toe with Brady with some really nice plays and he did it with his arm, not just his legs. could he have audibled out of that play? certainly. but he's a top 10 QB who also believes he can make that play work. it never should have been called in the first place.
     
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  24. RhodyPhinsFan

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    At least the Garo play is no longer the dumbest play in SB history I guess.

    It is intolerable today in NE, by the way. Seriously the smuggest fans ever.
     
  25. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I like Russell Wilson for what he is: A very solid QB. I don't see a HOF trajectory at this point though. Could he get there? Absolutely. But let's not act like he's not in arguably the greatest position to succeed of any young QB in recent memory.

    I'd like to see how he performs when he has to throw the ball 35+ times a game. I mean, he completed 12 passes last night. How many QB's could win a SB with that few?
     
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  26. vt_dolfan

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    I can respect the guy and still not fall all over him. Hes a great QB...but Im happy we have 17. Ill be rooting for Wilson to implode every time he goes out..
     
  27. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    i like wilson a lot and i agree 100%. he didnt complete his first pass of the game until something like 5 minutes to go in the first half.
     
  28. vt_dolfan

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    How many QBs could throw 4 picks in the NFC Championship...somehow pull that out of his ***..follow it up by going 2 for 4 with a pick in the first half and win a Superbowl.

    Wish my eye roll could be seen
     
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  29. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Worst call in the history of sport nevermind just the SB....

    They didn't call a TO because they were conserving them for what little time they got the ball back....they were going to let them score.....BB did the same thing against the Giants in the SB....
     
  30. jdang307

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  31. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    A guy that has a defense that can somehow keep the game close enough against Aaron Rodgers despite 4 picks and a RB that can rumble for a TD from 24 yards out as one of the comeback scores
     
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  32. finfansince72

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    Letting Tate go was crazy, even without hindsight it was fairly obvious he was their best receiver. They did spend some resources on Harvin which granted was stupid but they did spend picks and money. When they let Lynch go in the offseason they are making a huge mistake, honestly I don't think this team is a heavy favorite to make the Superbowl next year without some changes on offense.
     
  33. RGF

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    If they ran Lynch instead of throwing it and he was short of the goal line the Patriots would have been forced to call a time out to preserve what little time would have been left . It would have been 3rd down and Seattle still had one timeout left. And, if they had the intention of letting Seattle score - which I believe you`re right- then Seattle would have taken the lead with no resistence from New England. The Pats would`ve gotten the ball back with about 20 seconds left and 2 timeouts down by three. To make a long story short Seattle screwed up by massive proportions by throwing it there. Even if they scored on that pass then the Patriots would get the ball back with approx. 30 seconds left and all three time outs. Bottom line, throwing it there was beyond reasonable comprehension, just a real pathetic call.
     
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  34. ckparrothead

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    Not many. Because not many quarterbacks are so good that they're averaging 12 yards per ATTEMPT throwing to undrafted free agent wide receivers in the Super Bowl. Not many quarterbacks have the ability to get the job done in only 21 pass attempts, like Russell Wilson can. But that's part of what makes him so damned special.

    Oh by the way he has dropped back to pass 35+ times in four games as a rookie, five games in his second year, and eight games in his third year. In those 17 games (which constitutes a full season) he was:

    1) 353 of 560 (63.0%) for 4308 yards (7.7 YPA), 26 TD and 11 INT (94.0 passer rating)
    2) 75 scrambles for 671 yards and 1 TD.
    3) Also ran the football (called run plays, excluding QB sneaks) 33 times for 191 yards and 3 TD.
    4) He took 36 sacks during the 17 games.

    So there's that. Which obviously obliterates all this nonsense about needing to see what Russell Wilson does when he's asked to pass 35+ times a game.

    Nobody who has actually WATCHED the man play football should be surprised by this data. The man seems at his most dangerous when he's in a two minute situation or in some sort of come from behind setting, and these are situations notorious for being completely pass-centric with no credible threat of a ground game. So this BS about how we have never seen Russell Wilson perform when really leaned upon is just made up nonsense that sounds nice but has no basis in reality.

    Oh but wait. Someone gonna step up and be like "Nuh uhh. I said 35+ attempts in a game. No fair you get to count scrambles where Russell Wilson makes the defense looks silly and gets his offense easy 1st downs and into scoring position. I'm trying to make an argument on paper here and you're ruining it!"
     
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  35. wipingontortos

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    To be honest he really didn't do anything to show that he is a great passer. He just burned a physically mismatched scrub cornerback a few times. Kyle Arrington is seriously one of the worst cornerbacks I have ever seen when it comes to covering guys on the outside. Had Browner been on Matthews those big passes never would have happened. Sticking a 5'10 corner with a history of getting burned on a 6'5 receiver is bad coaching from New England. Any quarterback could take advantage of that. Then of course the incredibly lucky Kearse catch which probably shouldn't have happened.
     
  36. jw3102

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    Absolutely he does and there was no interference on the play. It was a great play by the defensive back.

    If a Dolphin defensive back made that exact same play and the ref's threw a flag for pass interference. The same people who now claim it was pass interference on the Patriots, would be stating that the ref's blew the call and it wasn't pass interference because both players have a right to the ball when it is in the air.

    I have seen the play at least 10 times since yesterday and I see nothing that looks like pass interference.

    It should also be noted that no one on the Seahawks was complaining that there was pass interference on the play. Like most of us, the players on the Seahawks and their fans were probably too stunned by the play call and what happened on the play to blame anyone but the person who decided to call the play in the first place.
     
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  38. jdang307

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    So no comments on this? What do you all think? They need at least one pass to use all four downs. If they run it with lynch and he's stuffed, then they gotta call timeout and its a pass on 3rd down, or risk not getting to 4th down.
     
  39. Tannephins

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    The negative critique of the play call neglects to consider the most exceptional part of the play, which was the recognition and anticipation by the DB. That degree of recognition and anticipation is very atypical. If it takes that degree of atypicality to make a play call look bad, it probably wasn't really that bad. In other words, with anything but an extremely exceptional play by the DB, the play is likely successful. Calling plays based on the highly atypical, versus the highly probable, isn't prudent.
     
  40. rafael

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    It was a great play by the DB. The poor pass was the one earlier that turned into that circus catch. That one was a bad idea that turned out lucky. But people tend to view things in hind-sight.
     
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