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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    The Royal Rumble was all a dream and Roman Reigns really didn't win?

    Honestly no clue. I at least hope it's something that's actually ground breaking and not the usual wrestling lame cop out like "hey WM this year the main event will be no DQ" or something like that.
     
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  2. shamegame13

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    Maybe he will tell us he finally has a competent booking team. Doubt it.
     
  3. Vengeful Odin

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    Rumor has it that it's going to be about the Rock interfering in the Rumble on Sunday. So nothing really all that exciting. Most likely it is going to set up a Fatal Fourway at Fastlane between Rusev vs. Kane vs. Big Show vs. Reigns. That allows them to push Cena vs. Rusev to WrestleMania as planned.

    Roman's gotta look strong and overcome those odds you know.
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    Sounds about right but that's again asking for trouble for the fans to boo that match out of the building.
     
  5. SICK

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    Orton comes back, screws Seth....Bryan wins.....Roman goes over clean on Bryan at Fastlane.....or maybe Ziggler turns heel and screws Bryan......

    Dudleyz/Acension/Usos (Tag titles table match)
    Rusev/Cena (US Title)
    Ambrose/BNB (IC Title)
    Rollins/Orton
    Bryan/Ziggler
    Reigns/Brock (WWEWHC)

    Mania card so far imo......Seth cashes in after Reigns win, Setting up feud. Maybe Wyatt/Taker....HHH/Sting
     
  6. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    You wouldn't think the WWE would be dumb enough to have a Bryan/Reigns match for the WM title shot with Reigns going over but you know that's what's going to happen. Can't wait for the huge boos after that one.

    Also what was the point of putting Big Show over Reigns? Isn't the goal here to make Reigns look unstoppable heading into WM? But that's the whole problem with the WWE.
     
  7. SICK

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    I mean maybe they see the problem. Have bryan beat reigns with a Seth screw job. Have bryan/brock and reigns/Seth at WM?! Would be awesome. But who knows anymore.


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  8. MikeHoncho

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    Boy if strip this statement of context, it just becomes another Saturday night at Maynard's.
     
  9. SICK

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    Mmmmmmm RKO OUT OF NO WHERE!!!!


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  10. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Wyatt/Ziggler and Bryan/Rollins were both fantastic tonight. The rest was rather meh.
     
  11. Samphin

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    Credit to WWE for trying to right a perceived wrong. They handled it about as we'll as hey could have. Although, Reigns agreeing to put his WM match on the line was rather dumb, from a storyline and character development, point of view. But it gets them to where they want to go. Reigns vs. Bryan will sell.

    Rollins is clearly programming with Orton for WM, which is probably a good pairing. I expect an Orton win to foreshadow a Rollins cash in later that night, however.

    I can't imagine they are going to pull Reigns from the match, unless they are deciding to turn him heel, which ironically, would probably give him nuclear heat. I think the loser of the Bryan/Reigns match should get Dolph at WM. Make whoever loses the match at a Fastlane, interrupt Dolph's math. On the following Monday Night Raw and complain about getting screwed over. Dolph tries to tell them to leave the ring since it is his time, said person attacks Dolph viciously and voila...program for WM.

    It probably makes more sense for Reigns to go this route, but again, I don't really expect him to be pulled from the Main Event.


    The HHH/Austin Podcast was interesting.
     
  12. Ray Finkle

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    I think they realize that the fans want Bryan in the main event and by having Reigns beat him for that spot it will justify things. For whatever reason the front office just doesn't seem to want to truly get behind Bryan and I think this match is going to end up being another F U to the fan base and a way to try and get Reigns over by having him have a good match and beat our hero.

    I just think it's a mistake if they do stick with the plan to have Reigns beat Bryan because it's just going to ask for more backlash with the fans. If the end game was always going to be Reigns/Lesnar at WM, there are better ways to try and get Reigns over by then.
     
  13. SICK

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    Honestly someone said it on reddit and it makes sense. I think Roman was supposed to be Ziggler through Survivor series....save team cena....beat 3 guys from team authority....etc but he was hurt. Its just another sloppy build to mania

    Man the HHH/Austin podcast was legit though. Great stuff. Can't believe he asked him about Chyna and Punk.
     
  14. Ray Finkle

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    Hmm interesting and makes sense that Reigns was suppose to be "Ziggler" this fall. I think it probably would have helped him out to get those rubs. Still agree with what Austin and Meltzer said about Reigns which was while he was out of action with the injury he should have been given a live mike at each house show and been asked to cut 5 minute promos each night to get comfortable as his promos are pretty bad still even with the acting lessons.

    I didn't have a chance to watch/listen to the Podcast yet but have heard good things, will have to check it out later.
     
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  15. Ray Finkle

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    Word is the WWE is now optimistic about resigning Brock once his contract is up on the RAW after WM31.

    I love Lesnar, I think he's great but my only question is once he loses the WWE title what is there left for him to do that would be meaningful? They're not going to use him to put over new talent and I doubt they would put the title back on him in the very near future. My only guess is the WWE needs big draws to try and sell out WM32 in Dallas and might try to run a Lesnar/Rock match or give Taker his WM win back against him. Other than that there aren't many real dream matches left for him except maybe Orton and Bryan.
     
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  16. SICK

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    Maybe he won't lose if they resign him? Have Reigns lose via run-in from Rollins or something, I dunno....maybe turn Ambrose heel and have him attack Reigns.....Keep the strap on Brock.
     
  17. Vengeful Odin

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    Brock may look and sound stupid when he talks (not that I would ever think of saying that to his face), but he's either got a shrewd business acumen or a very good agent. He's in the middle of a three way bidding war with UFC, WWE, and Bellator all bidding for his services. It's extremely smart to not accept the first offer, and consider all of his options before signing any kind of a deal.

    That being said, I do hope he comes back. He's a throwback to the special attractions we used to see growing up (kind of like Andre or someone like that). However, I don't see him sticking around - the money that UFC is going to throw at him will likely trump whatever the WWE can afford. Ironically, had they not cannibalized their PPV business with the launch of the Network, they may have had the capital to bring him back. But at this point, I just don't see that happening.
     
  18. SICK

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    And with HHH mentioning him having "unfinished business, elsewhere" last night....seems like Brock has not made it a secret he has a desire to go back to UFC healthy, and try to get his belt back there. The ultimate competition for someone as competitive as him.
     
  19. Ray Finkle

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    Eh I don't know, I think you have to have Brock lose the belt at WM unless his new deal is that he will wrestle at every PPV or at least every other PPV. Even then I'd still have Brock drop the belt.
     
  20. Ray Finkle

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    The problem with Brock, on the WWE's end of things, is that in the new Network Era Brock hasn't really been worth the money they are paying him. Don't get me wrong, Brock is a draw, but the WWE needs something like 1.2 million subscribers to make a profit on their Network alone and he hasn't really brought in a lot of new subscribers. As you said he's absolutely a special attraction, and him not showing up every week or wrestling at every PPV is part of his appeal. Tough decision for the WWE.
     
  21. Section126

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    Was last year's Mania a day dream? They got behind him plenty. He just got hurt.
     
  22. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    They got forced into it by the fans, it was never their plan. He was going to be in a meaningless match with Sheamus before Punk walked out. And if you remember even before he got hurt, he wasn't the featured wrestler on the shows after WM. The Shield/Evolution feud was the main focus. I think if Bryan never got hurt he would have always been 2nd fiddle to whatever the main storyline of the WWE was, like when Benoit won the WWE title in 2004 and was always overshadowed by whatever Triple H was doing or even when CM Punk was the WWE Champion and John Cena was the one main eventing all of the PPVs.

    It's great that he got that WM moment, for whatever the reason, but (and trust me I hope I'm wrong) I don't think you'll see that again with him. The WWE had the perfect storyline set up for Bryan and they did nothing with it.
     
  23. Section126

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    Agreed. But my point remains..he got his "program" all set up with TWO WINS at WM.... he got hurt.

    Bryan Fans don't have much to complain about since Mania last year. They even whined their way into a match at Fastlane with Reigns.

    if my tone sounds down on the Bryan Marks...it's because I am.
     
  24. Ray Finkle

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    I think the problem with the Bryan Marks is because the WWE consistently trolls them. If Bryan wasn't going to win the Royal Rumble why bring him back for it and have him eliminated quickly and in an uneventful way? I also think the fans wanted to see Bryan with the title and go on a run, I think if he got that and didn't get hurt they would have been fine with someone else getting the WM spot. The problem is fans love the guy and he's the most popular wrestler on the roster other than Cena but is seem as being held back all the time (and part of that could be on purpose to keep the fans from loving him).

    I also think another problem is Reigns, I think fans see him as the choosen one and therefore is a bit like the "Coporate Champion" instead of the "People's Champion". If Ziggler or even Ambrose won the Rumble I don't think people would have cared.

    Really it's a double edged sword, we have been complaining for years how the WWE doesn't make new stars and when they try to with Reigns people crap all over it. Now part of the problem is its clear Reigns isn't ready and is still plenty green and also his character is kind of boring, which is on the writing staff a bit.
     
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  25. Section126

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    I think the main problem with Reigns is that he has ONE..count it...ONE....legitimate singles match on his resume. Randy Orton at SS.

    So..you got one match under your belt...and you headline WM?

    Piss on that.
     
  26. Ray Finkle

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    Agreed. He's still just too green, limited in the ring, limited on the mike. I don't understand why it's such a bad thing to simply hold off on him main eventing WM31 and let him get more work in. It doesn't mean that he still can't be the WWE's long term plans of being the next "it" guy but why rush something when you have Bryan back to replace him. If Bryan was still hurt and they want to hot shot Reigns and press their luck, cool. But right now I think it will be a disaster for him and do much more harm than good.
     
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  27. Vengeful Odin

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    My biggest issue is that he's all of 4 moves right now. He's got the Spear, Superman Punch, Apron Dropkick, and Samoan drop. That's literally his arsenal right now.

    I'd like to see him add some power moves to complement and round out his moveset. Maybe a power bomb and some sort of side slam to really sell the fact that he's Medium Daddy Cool version 2.0.
     
  28. MikeHoncho

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    So do you guys think Roger Goodell will actually come down hard on the Patriots for having cheated, or are they just too profitable at this point?

    Will the league even address this, or rather neatly sweep it under the rug?
     
  29. SICK

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    Orton carried the **** out of that match too. It's too soon, let him beat rusev or some ****.....but not Brock. Ridiculous.
     
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  30. Ray Finkle

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    According to Meltzer, the original plans for Fast Lane were suppose to be Roman Reigns vs. a top heel so he could look strong headed into WM and for Daniel Bryan to lose to Bray Wyatt to keep Wyatt strong for a potential match against the Undertaker at WM.

    Imagine how well those plans would have been taken by the fans if they didn't switch things up. Still goes to show you the WWE simply has no logic in their storylines. You'd think they would want to keep a hot Daniel Bryan strong, but then again its the same company that just jobbed Reigns to Big Show on RAW for zero reason.
     
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    Reigns new catch phrase on his t-shirt is "me versus all"

    lmao. Seriously? Guys won like 1 ****ing solo match. Is famous because of the GROUP the shield.....and he won the rumble because of help from The Rock.....

    WWE is completely ****ing useless.
     
  32. Ray Finkle

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    Believe that!
     
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  33. Ray Finkle

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    WWE might be planning on teaming Ryback and Ziggler more and could possibly be involved in a tag team match at WM if Bryan faces Lesnar.
     
  34. Samphin

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    The best way to transfer this heel heat off of Reigns after he beats Bryan at Fast Lane, and, at the same time, give Bryan something to do at WM, is to have Ziggler interfere and cost Bryan the match. Maybe even as a hired agent of The Authority.

    Ziggler can cut promos about how the fans kept rallying behind Daniel. Giving him shot, after shot, after shot, even when he didn't deserve it. Yet Ziggler, who has been with this company for a decade, continues to be beat up, looked over, fired, demoted and basically pooped on by everyone from the office, down to the fans. And quite frankly, he is sick of it. Sick of the fans demanding that other Superstars get chances that rightly belong to Dolph. Sick of fighting a losing battle against HHH/Steph. Sick and tired of being sick and tired.

    So he made a choice. A choice to get where he wants to go. A choice to further his career, cement his legacy and finally earn the credit, he rightfully deserves. So he made a deal with The Authority. He sold his soul to the devils in order to ensure his place in the company. And in return, The Authority asked that he take care of the "B+ Player" that won't leave them alone.

    And now you have a nice program for Daniel Bryan and Heel Ziggler for WM, transfer a lot of that heat from Reigns to Ziggler, and strengthen your heels if/when Brock leaves.
     
  35. Silverphin

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    I honestly feel like Roman Reigns is getting a raw deal. Don't get me wrong -- he is extremely green. But, it just seems like WWE is sabotaging the crap out of him.
     
  36. Ray Finkle

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    Certainly having him job to Big Show and cut awful promo after awful promo doesn't help nor was his booking in the Rumble. I agree I think Reigns is getting a raw deal mainly because he's been booked so poorly and in a no win situation seemingly taking the in the fans eyes Bryan's spot.
     
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    It's funny... Reigns is never good on script. But then he'd have moments when he'd go OFF script and it'd be brilliant.

    And I definitely agree with the bold part. Like, they DO know he's going to be up against Brock Lesnar, right? Roman can't afford losses like that.
     
  38. Ray Finkle

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    According to Meltzer as of today the current plans for the WM main event is a triple threat match for the WWE title with Reigns, Bryan and Brock.

    I hope that gets changed, either give Reigns the match or Bryan. I have no desire to see another triple threat match.

    Either stick to the original plan or admit you made a mistake and move on.
     
  39. Jt0323

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    Goldust vs stardust WM. Make it happen! It looks like it's leaning that way but I'd love to see it so I hope they don't screw it up
     
  40. Samphin

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    I think we did this last year, but at this point, Wrestlemania main events have often been non-traditional matches versus 1 on 1 matches, no?
     

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