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Free Agency Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Free Agency' started by GridIronKing34, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    I don't think he's been around yet to spend. I expect him to come in tonight and just blow stuff away.
     
  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hes not average, he just plays in Oakland where no one actually looks good.
     
  3. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Satele did!
     
  4. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Coming off two very good years it took me 9+ mil to land Rahim Moore last year. Hes trending to make nearly the same after a somewhat down season. Interesting.
     
  5. Finfangirl

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    this is sooo fun...isnt this fun guys (looking for todd over shoulder nervously)
     
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  6. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Murray is still a little low seeing as he would probably near the league high of 11% set in 2012 for Arian Foster, the floor could very well be Mario Barber's 8% in 2011.

    What does that look like in dollar figures? $12,000,000 on the low end and $16,500,000 at the ceiling.

    Also Centers earning $10,000,000+ on the FA market is nothing new, it's one of the more common trends seeing that occurred in previous leagues with a much lower cap.
     
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  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And wis played better then Satele did by a landslide. Additionally wis is a more well rounded player then Satele ever was
     
  8. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    So it's only a small twist...but to give re-signing more of a meaning/game play next year what about adding a 'hometown' discount? Basically the originating team has the option on one of their 2 re-signs to lay down a "match offer". Same 24 hours apply to the bid and they can use it multiple times but only on the player they put it on originally.

    Just a thought to make it more unique with the rest of the FA period.
     
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  9. Fin-Omenal

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    Actually a GM that does well and has some carryover to the following year cap wise will gain my attention in the voting, if some of you are going to overvalue draft picks, then you certainly shouldn't ignore carryover. Just my opinion.
     
  10. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Satele was more of a funny, different time period too.

    Lil Wiz gets no push in the run game and is only okay at anchoring against a pass rush. He probably needs to head to a ZBS. He doesn't have enough functional strength to hang in a power man blocking scheme.
     
  11. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Tried something similar last year in Mach's league. It drove down the prices and people would match about everything.

    Given the "save every penny" mentality by a lot of GMs here, I don't think it'd work well.

    Plus it would essentially just give teams another transition tag.
     
  12. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Really? Would only basically be a $500k savings. Force folks on these big ticket items to put a million between them and only used on one re-sign.
     
  13. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It takes two teams to drive up the players price... And if one of those teams has a match offer in their back pocket then the process won't play itself out fully.
     
  14. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I see what Van is saying now actually.

    I get where you're coming from but I'm not a fan of it. At the end of the day, most players will go where the money goes.

    Plus this is more of a way to implement a tiered free agency system than anything else.
     
  15. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Yah...I'm just trying to figure out ways to 'game' it up.
     
  16. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Is there a website I can subscribe to that will allow me access to this information?
     
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  17. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Pissing off VO again would be a start...
     
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  18. Fin-Omenal

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    In this league or real life?

    The highest annual salary for a C is Maurkice Pouncey at 8.75 I believe...I was going to upgrade my C position but not at those #s
     
  19. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    for a reasonable $9.95 a month?
     
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  20. VanDolPhan

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    I thought about doing that the other day........but I'm like nah......I do actually like the guy. I know I don't show it lol.

    Going cross-eyed watching Boik/FFG ping pong Murray around.
     
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  21. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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  22. Fin-Omenal

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    If I had not picked up Forte the Murray bidding war would be much higher by now
     
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  23. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    So trade Forte then.......duh!
     
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  24. NYGallday521

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    Cmon lets see Kareem go to 20!
     
  25. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    To think I gave Kareem to Alex out of pity last year in our sign and trade for Verner. Kareem done blow up and I don't even want to see him in Miami.....inconsistent.
     
  26. Finfangirl

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    Captain Munnerlyn CB $3,833,000 $666,667
    Will Blackmon CB $945,000 $25,000


    cheap corners over here -- get your cheap corners over here.....
     
  27. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And cheap Rb's...
    Bernard Pierce and Zac stacy both available for day 3 pick(s)...
     
  28. UCFinfan86

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    I'm willing to trade for a #1 CB
     
  29. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Grimes and Haden are available if you're willing to overpay... a lot.
     
  30. UCFinfan86

    UCFinfan86 Season Ticket Holder

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    Wanted Haden until you stole him
     
  31. Sean

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    I knew there was something fishy about you. I see on your team page you have your players labeled as such, take Joe Haden for an example. Joe Haden, CB, $11,700,000 (-$12,800,000). Note that the parenthesis around the dead money already means it is a negative. I have noticed that you've added a negative sign in there as well, thus resulting in a double negative, which reverses the signs to a positive. Hm, I didn't know if you cut or trade Joe Haden you gain $24,500,000 in cap space back. Hm. Must be an odd coincidence, or it's the finance industry screwing with my head. :up:
     
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  32. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I think you need to find better things to do on your lunch break.
     
  33. Boik14

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    Ravens would like to welcome rotational 3-4 DE Mike DeVito for 1.75M. DeVito has shown he can be an excellent run defender in the 3-4 while providing average pass rushing skills. He will join a loaded DL with fellow cut free agent signing Randy Starks who signed earlier this offseason for 3.25M. Joining Brandon Williams, Haloti Ngata, and Timmy Jernigan the Ravens would like to invite anyone to try and run the ball. We wish you the best in your fruitless endeavors.
     
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  34. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Another idea would be that for a player who was drafted by the team and has played his entire career there (Rahim Moore for example) the bidding teams have to beat any home offer by a certain percentage and the bids dont reset....just highest after 24 hours and home team can match the highest.. For example:

    Rahim Moore has a high bid of 10 million after 24 hours. The home town team has the ability to offer a contract 10% lower but still sign him.

    After these 24 hours are up (no bid resets, highest after 24) the original team can offer a contract of 9 million and sign him immediately or ler him walk.

    Its a lot closer to real life where clubs at least have the chance to negotiate and players often use other teams for leverage.

    I would suggest this with one player per team in its own dedicated thread.
     
  35. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like the hometown discount idea and I think Alex's is an improvement on van's initial idea. The idea being that, as Alex said, the players often don't want to leave, they just want to get paid more.
     
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  36. Fin-Omenal

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    I 2nd this..
     
  37. jackbanks12

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    I would disagree with this as there is no way to simulate personality in a GML like this. For this reason the highest bidder works. You have no idea if a player in real life wants to stay or has been waiting two years until he can leave a team.
     
  38. BuckeyeKing

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    So how would you determine value then?
     
  39. Fin-Omenal

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    Like he said if a player has stayed in one place his whole career, normally when they offer them a fair market deal they stay.
     
  40. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Most players who are drafted by a team stat for at least their second contract if they aren't underperformers. Most who do walk after that contract, its because the home team isn't offering near the same amount of money.

    Its actually pretty rare for goodor very good players to enter FA because a contract is often worked out before FA even starts. Most of the time its a Mike Wallace situation where the team says "Sorry, we valued your service but we can't throw that type of mobey at you"

    I think you could literally count on one hand the number of guys who were drafted by a team, performed and wanted to get out.
     

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