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Hey We Signed 3 Free Agents... Lets Hear Your Early Grades

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Pennington's Limp Arm, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Thirteen players lost, three players added. A backup CB, TE w injury history, and Suh. Call me crazy but I'd like to see who fills those other 10 roster spots before I have start passing out A grades.
     
  2. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Did we really lose that many players that are paramount to the success of the team? Or are you just a glass have empty kind of fan?

    We also have the opportunity to draft 2 first day starters and playmakers (or more). A lot of good players in positions of need are gonna drop to us in all likelihood.

    The Fins are heading in a winning direction. Stop being such a pessimist. The only thing the Fins have done wrong is keep the coaching staff. Philbin sucks. And if we win next year it will likely be in spite of him.
     
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  3. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    The names are flashy and the players have a history of productivity - there's nothing NOT to like about the signings. However, it is not uncommon for FAs not to produce up to levels with their prior teams and end up with their lofty contracts putting the acquiring teams in cap hell. I'll reserve judgment to see how these signings pan out on the field. But yes, on the face of these signings, the Phins are being very aggressive.
     
  4. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member


    I hear ya on the Franklin aspect, Finest... The signings have been good and you add in the exchange of Stills for Ellerbe and I really like what they have done so far....


    Now, if they re-sign Clay somehow (which is being reported as 'close') and there is a rumor of a Wallace trade....wow... TBaum is doing some things that we haven't seen done around here in many years.
     
  5. ASUFinFan

    ASUFinFan Uh huh

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    What is the Wallace trade rumor by chance Larry?
     
  6. PhinsMondayNitro

    PhinsMondayNitro Active Member

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    I don't think I can fathom the Patriots winning the division again. Dolphins picked up Suh, Cameron & now Stills. Bills signed McCoy, Harvin, a great coach in Rex Ryan. The Jets went all out with Bowles as head coach, Revis & Cromartie, Brandon Marshall & Buster Skrine. Patriots lost Browner, Revis & Wilfork. There is absolutely no way they win it this year, the division is too competitive.
     
  7. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    There's nothing pessimistic about a wait and see approach.
     
  8. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    When Tom Brady, or Belichick are on the gone list I will agree.

    Edit: Along with all their free get out of jail cards.
     
  9. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Yeah, I've been bitten several times by betting against those ba#$%^ds.... When they are gone...we'll see where we are then...

    But you have to admit everyone in our division is getting better so far in FA... How that transpires to play on the field, we'll have to see..
     
  10. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    Piston don't you think you are being a little over worried here. this is how I see it.

    Offense:
    Hartline - Stills
    Clay is still very much in the picture.
    Gibson - Matthews (promote from within)
    Colledge - Turner (promote from within)
    Plus we added Jordan Cameron
    Smith can be replaced in the draft or by a veteran on the cheap. You seriously worried about Shelley Smith?

    Defense;
    Odrick replaced by Suh in a big way.
    Wilson replaced by McCain
    Delmas is still very much in the picture.. even recruited Suh
    Wheeler - I think there is a good possibility we go linebacker in round 1.
    Ellerbe didn't even play last year.
    Finnegan - Jamar Taylor (promote from within) and Patrick Robinson still on the radar or 2nd round pick seems to have value at DB.
    Starks - Will be tough to replace. But Suh plays over 80% of snaps. (Only significant downgrade)
    So your nervous about replacing Trusnik and Freeney? Good Special teamers, but come on. I like Sheppard on defense more than Freeney.
     
  11. PhinsMondayNitro

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    They might sign Reggie Bush.
     
  12. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    fuse the two together and you got yourselves the correct answer imo...the baggage that we are getting rid of took film work, lots of it, i don't thing that was tannenbaum..i call our gm hickeybaum.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    add brice mccain...and
     
  14. cbrad

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    "Hickeybaum".. man that has some overtones.. baum = tree in German, so this is a tree with a lot of kiss marks?
     
  15. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Nice breakdown. I've been doing them in my head for the past few days, fun stuff ;)

    I wouldn't say I'm worried", I'd say there's a lot of work left to do. Stills is another good move, can't wait to see what rhe finished product looks like. Then I'll join you guys in giving out the grades lol.
     
  16. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Then be last in run defense and allow 34 PPG again next season to where even the Jets and Vikings without AP are scoring and going down the field with ease? No thanks.
     
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  17. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I forgot about Moreno, that makes 14 players. I think we're up to 4 replacements so far.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Why Moreno? He played one game.
     
  19. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I'm not sure how accurate it is to be concerned about players leaving who barely played, or didn't play, last year.
     
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  20. Phins Up Wins Up

    Phins Up Wins Up Banned

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    Idk man. I think we should have just brought back Odrick, Ellerbe, and Wheeler. You saw how awesome this defense was last year. Those guys are cheap. We need to save money. Because saving some cash is more important than taking a chance and winning right? I don't like change. Mediocrity the last 15 years has been ok with me.
     
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  21. Phins Up Wins Up

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    And when they did play they weren't good. They're the reason why the Dolphins have been sitting on the outside looking in at the playoffs. Don't know why anyone would want those guys back or be concerned they're gone. Just dead weight.
     
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  22. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    For the same reason we signed Moreno in the first place. We need two backs in order to keep the run game humming. Moreno didn't pan out but that doesnt erase the need.
     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    We do have Damien Williams.
     
  24. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Also, people keep on mentioning Albert Hanesworth. Albert was an all-pro twice. He was also a probowler twice. That was the two years before his big contract with the Redskins.

    Suh has been in the league for 5 years. In 4 of them he has been a first time all-pro. The year he missed, he was a 2nd team all-pro.

    While he is a dirty player (who would be championed in the 70s) he has never shown to be a slacker or someone who is just working on getting a huge paycheck.
     
  25. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    You're ok with Williams as the backup, as in one play away from being the starter?
     
  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Yea, I am fine. He shows some good quicks. Get that guy a full offseason of NFL workouts and he will be even stronger.

    I do think Miami is going to draft a RB
     
  27. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    on paper they're all good moves.
     
  28. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think hickeys watching film and Baum is making the deals..so whatever we wanna call it I'm down..but I really don't think tannebaum is watching film on all the guys that were released.
     
  29. ASUFinFan

    ASUFinFan Uh huh

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    Ither way, I like the aggressiveness these two are showing. For sure DJ. I agree.
     
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  30. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    In 3 days...

    With plenty of FA and the draft yet to come. The sky has in fact NOT fallen yet. That's why the question asked, "early grades."
     
  31. cbrad

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    Reasonable assumption, but whatever the division of labor, it does seem like they are working well together and that's the really important thing here.
     
  32. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    This is very simple. We have lost more talent/depth than we have added so far, the early grade is incomplete at best.
     
  33. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Its not that simple at all.

    The FA period is not about making 1 to 1 swaps for players, but that's how you're counting it.

    Suh and any NFL caliber DT(including anyone on this team still) > Odrick & Starks (and hell, Starks hasn't signed with anyone yet).
    Cameron & Stills > Wallace & Hartline
    McCain > Wilson
     
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