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Even Hardcore Holly spoke about Demott. This guy has to go. What a dick.

 

Demott denies any wrong doing but steps down. Probably for the best.

 

lol "this is false.............but i am quitting"

IF this picks up wind in the mainstream media, WWE is in for a ****ing ****-storm

 

That's why he "quit," so that if it did hit mainstream media, they wouldn't have a fiasco like our beloved fins. They could point to how they already took care of the problem and have moved on.

 

This has been in front of Hunter and the other top brass for awhile. And nothing's been done about it. I can still see a storm brewing if Fox News or God forbid Nancy grace wanna start investigating into this.


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They have plausible deniability. And again, the fact that they parted ways, gives them some distance if it were to get picked up, which at this point, I doubt it will.

Also, apparently Lesnar was at the last UFC event and was VERY visible on camera sitting next to Dana White. Negotiating tactic, I assume.

 

I doubt it gets picked up by the media too however if it did/does the WWE would have to explain how they let it happen under their watch when they have cameras filming the training center 24/7.

Brock is a master at contract negotiations for sure.

 

The lack of any type of reaction, whether its cheering or booing, for Roman Reigns 3 weeks before he's main eventing WM is a terrible sign. It would be one thing if fans were booing him because at least he would be getting a reaction but it seems like the fans are just sitting on their hands during his matches. I got a funny feeling that the "Roman Empire" isn't going to last long or end well.

 

Pissed off/Angry Randy Orton is the best. Gold

 

Okay...I tend to go a little soft on the WWE but what in the HELL was the weird voice over work for Sting? I know he has a limited amount of appearances, but they couldn't get him to voice over his own video package? That was one of the oddest things I have seen them do in awhile.

Also, Heyman's promos are always great, but WOW, he is, simply put, the best talker the sport has ever had. Ever. He is selling the crap out of this main event.

I liked the format of the tag team/diva matches this week. It would probably be a bit much to do that every single week, but it was a nice change of pace and should be utilized more often. It is little tweaks like that to a format that helps keep a show fresh. Kudos.

I am reserving judgement on the Wyatt-Undertaker build up until after Wrestlemania. I truly believe that the build up will be judged by the outcome, which is weird to say, but Wyatt needs to win this match and be able to hang his hat on "Killing Undertaker," before Undertaker wins his last match next year and rides off with a happy ending. If Wyatt loses and UT gets his salvation this year, I think it hurts Bray's character and this build up is all for not.

The IC Title is actually in an interesting angle, for once. Others might not think so, but I think the story they are telling is fun, and the talent involved will tear the house down. I am looking forward to it.

 

Anyone else find it weird that Brock and Reigns didn't have any interaction on last night's show? Kind of strange that the WWE finally has Brock there and not even a staredown or a pull apart. Heck Reigns was even an afterthought in the main event match, he was just there to advance the Orton/Rollins storyline. Have Reigns and Brock even interacted since the snowed in RAW back in January? Just seems strange such little time is being spent on building the WM main event outside of Heyman's promos.

I wonder if that match will be the main event or if the WWE will make the Triple H/Sting the last match as there will at least be some heat with the crowd.

 

I could see Sting vs. HHH being last. I would say that Orton vs. Rollins could jump into that spot, but I think the show will end with Rollins cashing in (especially if he loses to Orton first), so you can't really end with that match, unless you decide to have Rollins cash in, win the title and make the Orton/Rollins match a title one.

The other interesting theory I read today is that the WWE has still yet committed to Bryan being in the IC match. It seems like a foregone conclusion, of course. But speculation is that they are keeping him on hold as Reigns's reactions have been awful and maybe they can crowbar Bryan in and help spruce up the main event buzz. I doubt it, but it is an interesting theory. Personally, I think they are holding out hope that Sheamus can make it back earlier than expected and run the DB/Sheamus feud, hence the delay in announcing Bryan's WM intentions.

 

I don't know I can't see Orton/Rollins going on last, it just doesn't feel like a big enough match to close WM for. If Wyatt was a bigger name then I would say the Taker return match has a shot but I think it will either be Triple H/Sting or the WWE title match.

I'd much rather see Bryan in the IC title match but it seems really really crowd with BNB, Ziggler, Ambrose, Harper, R-Truth and Stardust in it already.

Since Stardust was just added to the IC title match so I guess the Goldust feud is over with and if so man what a disaster and missed opportunity that was.

 

I'm actually annoyed they are not doing Goldust vs stardust

 

Are you surprised though?

 

A little since I thought he was retiring so I thought wwe would give him his dream WM moment

 

Vince probably got bored of the feud and decided to switch things up. Again the time to run this feud was last year when people would have really care.

 

Bryan confirmed at the Smackdown tapings that he would be in the IC title match.

 

365 days ago hes about to win the WWEWHC........fast forward and hes ina throw away gimmick midcard match for a title thats meant nothing for ages.

Well done WWE.

 

Isn't that the WWE in a nutshell for the past 3 or 4 years or so?

They talk all the time about how they listen to their fans yet, as you mentioned, they're putting their 2nd most popular star in a match with 6 other wrestlers while their "next John Cena" is getting zero reactions from the fans 3 weeks before head lining a WM against a guy who may or may not be leaving the company. It still shocks me that instead of having this already built in Bryan/Lesnar storyline and a match that fans actually want to see they're going with a heatless Reigns/Lesnar match with the storyline of "Reigns can't beat Brock".

The only one that had a worse year was Cesaro. He was over big time with the crowd, had a super over move in the giant swing, was having really good matches, just won the Andre Battle Royal and then what did they do? Put him with Heyman, after they just turned him face the night before, took away his giant swing and started having him lose. Because dammit the WWE will tell the fans who to cheer for and who to boo!

 

So Sting still hasn't done a Promo to say what he is doing in WWE and why so Long. I don't have the WWE Network but was thinking about Wrestlemania just to see him wrestle on the Biggest Stage.

 

Sting talked last night in the ring after RAW went off the air that was shown on a WWE Network exclusive.

I posted in the thread last week how it's extremely interesting that the 3 top matches (Brock/Reigns, Triple H/Sting and Undertaker/Wyatt) has had almost no interactions between the wrestlers. It's been a very very strange build to WM this year. I understand the WWE wanted to keep Taker off of TV to keep the mystery going but even with Brock's and Sting's limited dates they haven't had any real interactions or any real stories being told.

All and all I'm not really super excited for WM this year, probably because the build up hasn't been very good. I'm hoping as we get closer to the PPV my excitement will change but I'm thinking this is going to be a pretty lackluster event.

 

Ill watch cause its mania, but I havent missed this many Raws in a row for years......and its road to WM.....pretty sad. Ill watch some stuff tonight that was recorded...but I am not chomping at the bit to watch live like normal. Sad.

 

Wwe makes no sense. They have sting in limited dates. I get that, but when you have him, you use him for that? Come on, could have had an interaction with triple h instead. It didn't even make sense to have HHH be involved with the Orton/Rollins angle since he's focused on sting.

 

I agree completely with you. I'll absolutely watch because its WM (or a PPV) but yeah not chomping at the bit to watch live like normal either simply because RAW is just way too long and the product kind of stinks right now.

If you really try to use logic in any of the major storylines in the last 3 to 6 months you'll go insane. I mean typically you need a lot of disbelief when following wrestling storylines and angles but I mean it's gotten pretty bad.

Again I agree they're wasting Brock's and Sting's appearances by having them do nothing I didn't mind Sting not talking at the Fastlane PPV but it would be nice if they have him say something by now as to why he's messing with Triple H. I think the risk/problem why they haven't had him talk is because they truly don't know what the point is for the feud. They're just trying to sell the match as Sting's first ever WWE match and that's it.

There's simply no direction for any of the storylines outside of Orton/Rollins.

 

I've come to terms with the fact that Raw is written by a Senior Citizen for kids under the age of 10. When you think about it that way, it's probably a pretty good show. I was pretty frustrated a few months back, and I bailed completely on it following the Rumble. The sad realization at that time was that this version of the product just isn't for me. Even when I was watching semi regularly I found myself fast forwarding through an already shortened Hulu Plus version of the product.

But there is good news - we live in an enlightened age, where we have options. NXT is consistently awesome. Lucha Underground is friggin' fantastic. I have a ton of DVDs and Blu-Rays from Chikara, ROH, and even WWE that I haven't had the chance to watch yet. I'm a Network subscriber, and I haven't checked out any of the original content in a meaningful way, plus there's an entire back catalog that I can explore. I can watch pro wrestling - and enjoy it - without ever being subjected to that show that airs on Monday night. 2 hours a week (from NXT and Lucha Underground) is about my max, so it works perfectly.

That being said, I'll watch Mania - because it's Mania, and as Vince has stated, the brand sells itself at this point. If it's good, I'll watch it. If it's boring I may shut it off. But I'm not planning on watching Raw anytime in the near future.

 

This.

The WWE Network is an absolute gold mine of old content and original footage. No matter how bad the current product is, there's a million things you can watch on the Network instead. I just wish they put out more RAWs and Nitros regularly.

 

There is a rumor going around that Brock is close to a new deal with the WWE and will keep the title at WM31. Triple H is apparently trying to talk Vince into having Brock win the match due to Reigns' lack of popularity. Cena and Bryan will also be winning the US and IC titles to make them meaningful as Brock will still be working his limited dates.

I'm not sure if I really believe this, if Brock wins it basically kills Reigns dead as the next Cena and its Vince basically admitting he screwed up WM. But I guess we will see in 2 weeks.

 

Ya the notorious "metsfan" on reddit started this. However Vince ended the streak 3 hours before WM30. So nothing is in stone.


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The source also has a spotty track record but has broken some big news. But like you said Vince can and usually changes his mind a million times before the actual event.

Hell would it shock anyone if he changed his mind mid match?

 

"Bryan runs out uses IC title to knock out reigns wins title with Vince as special referee!!!!"

"It was me reigns!!!! It was me all along !!!!!!!"


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Change Bryan to Triple H and it's possible, haha.

 

Or Cena haha. Lolcenastillwins


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I am still hoping reigns is being booed out of the building as confetti falls down and Rollins cashes in. Doubt it though.


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Yeah I don't see Rollins cashing in. If Bryan was facing Brock, then absolutely but I can't see the WWE messing with their golden boy.

Imagine if Reigns beats Lesnar and then Rollins goes to cash in and Reigns beats Rollins too how the internet would react.

 

Explosion.


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Is it just me or has the WWE Network been crapping out a lot in the past 2 or 3 weeks? I've been trying to watch on my Apple TV, Samsung SmartTV, Samsung BluRay and iPad and it does the same plays for a few minutes then freezes and rebuffers. Netflix has been working fine so it's not my internet connection. I know it's been happening to other people as well. You'd think/hope the WWE would be able to fix these bugs quickly but sometimes the Network is almost unwatchable with all the freezing and reloading.

 

So if brock does resign....how does Reigns win? What do you do with Brock? Hes a special attraction? Give him Bryan? Reigns moves on to Cena? Rollins? I wonder if they've thought that far in advance.

Honestly I'd love to see Reigns go full "The Rock"....and turn heel. They're pushing Rocky Maivia down our throats again.....and history is repeating itself. Die Roman Die chants are in our near future....especially if he keeps calling out the fans in Rolling Stone interviews and during promos.

 

I think you have to pull the trigger and give Reigns the belt. The WWE has already decided to try and make Reigns their next Cena so they have to go all in or the last 3 months have been a giant waste. Brock goes away until Summer Slam and by then the WWE can decide what way to go with him, whether he faces the WWE Champion or faces someone else.

As far as Reigns as champion, I think you give him guys like Rusev and Bray Wyatt as his spring/summer challengers. The WWE would be smart to keep a Reigns/Cena match or even an announced Rollins/Reigns match/feud for later on for a bigger PPV like a Summer Slam or WM. The WWE can go on wait and see mode and if Reigns isn't working out as champion have Rollins cash it in. I also think you keep Reigns as a face for now and see where it goes, if the fans still aren't buying him as champion then you can always turn him later.

 

I actually think the bigger maproblem the WWE has at WM is the Bray Wyatt/Undertaker match and what to do with that ending. On one hand Bray needs to win to really put him on that main level map as he's basically been useless and kind of lost since the break up of the Wyatt Family (which was completely dumb on the WWE's part to do and really no reason to break them up in the first place) and Bray has really lost a lot of heat since his Cena feud last year. He's just kind of been there, you know? But on the other hand having the Undertaker lose two WM matches in a row would probably hurt what the streak had meant and the importance of it all. Plus I really can't see Vince deciding to let Bray win, he'll just use the old "we can always build him up again" theory.

The WWE really booked themselves into a corner here as no matter what decision they choose it's going to be good and bad.