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Stats! Qbr 2014

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Stick this in your QB discussion and smoke it!

    (I've highlighted in bold the QB's who played enough to be measured)


    [TABLE="class: data-table1, width: 782"]
    Quarterback[TR]
    [TH="class: thd2, bgcolor: #EFF2F6"]Rk[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2, bgcolor: #EFF2F6"]Player[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2, bgcolor: #EFF2F6"]Team[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2, bgcolor: #EFF2F6"]Pos[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Comp[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Att[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Pct[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Att/G[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Yds[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Avg[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Yds/G[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]TD[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Int[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]1st[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]1st%[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Lng[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]20+[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]40+[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable, bgcolor: #EFF2F6, align: right"]Sck[/TH]
    [TH="class: thd2 right sortable sorted order1, bgcolor: #DDDDDD, align: right"]Rate[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]Ryan Nassib[/TD]
    [TD]NYG[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]80.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]60[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]12.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]15.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]40.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]29[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]116.7[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]Tony Romo[/TD]
    [TD]DAL[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]304[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]435[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]69.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]29.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3,705[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]247.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]34[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]189[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]43.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]68T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]49[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]10[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]29[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]113.2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]3[/TD]
    [TD]Aaron Rodgers[/TD]
    [TD]GB[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]341[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]520[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]65.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]32.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,381[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]273.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]219[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]42.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]80T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]59[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]15[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]28[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]112.2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]4[/TD]
    [TD]Derek Anderson[/TD]
    [TD]CAR[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]65[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]97[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]67.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]16.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]701[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]116.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]45.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]35T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]105.2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]5[/TD]
    [TD]Ben Roethlisberger[/TD]
    [TD]PIT[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]408[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]608[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]67.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,952[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]309.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]32[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]240[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]39.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]94T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]55[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]15[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]33[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]103.3[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]6[/TD]
    [TD]Matt Hasselbeck[/TD]
    [TD]IND[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]30[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]68.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]11.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]301[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]6.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]75.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]17[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]32[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]102.6[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]7[/TD]
    [TD]Logan Thomas[/TD]
    [TD]ARI[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]11.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]81[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]40.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]11.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]81T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]101.6[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]8[/TD]
    [TD]Peyton Manning[/TD]
    [TD]DEN[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]395[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]597[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]66.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,727[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]295.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]39[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]15[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]225[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]86T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]66[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]11[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]17[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]101.5[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]9[/TD]
    [TD]Jimmy Garoppolo[/TD]
    [TD]NE[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]19[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]27[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]70.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]182[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]6.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]30.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]29.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]101.2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]10[/TD]
    [TD]Blaine Gabbert[/TD]
    [TD]SF[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]42.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]5.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]28.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]20T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]100.0[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]11[/TD]
    [TD]Tom Brady[/TD]
    [TD]NE[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]373[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]582[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]64.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]36.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,109[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]256.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]33[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]220[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]69T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]21[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]97.4[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]12[/TD]
    [TD]Drew Brees[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]456[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]659[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]69.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]41.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,952[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]309.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]33[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]17[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]258[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]39.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]69T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]52[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]10[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]29[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]97.0[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]13[/TD]
    [TD]Andrew Luck[/TD]
    [TD]IND[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]380[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]616[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]61.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,761[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]297.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]40[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]16[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]234[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]80[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]73[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]15[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]27[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]96.5[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]14[/TD]
    [TD]Colt McCoy[/TD]
    [TD]WAS[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]91[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]128[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]71.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]25.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1,057[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]211.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]34.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]70T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]12[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]17[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]96.4[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]15[/TD]
    [TD]Carson Palmer[/TD]
    [TD]ARI[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]141[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]224[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]62.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]1,626[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]271.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]11[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]82[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]36.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]80T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]19[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]95.6[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]16[/TD]
    [TD]Ryan Fitzpatrick[/TD]
    [TD]HOU[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]197[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]312[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]63.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]26.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]2,483[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]206.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]17[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]119[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]76T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]38[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]21[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]95.3[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]17[/TD]
    [TD]Russell Wilson[/TD]
    [TD]SEA[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]285[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]452[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]63.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]28.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3,475[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]217.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]20[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]159[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]35.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]80T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]54[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]42[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]95.0[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]18[/TD]
    [TD]Matt Ryan[/TD]
    [TD]ATL[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]415[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]628[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]66.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]39.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,694[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]293.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]28[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]14[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]230[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]36.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]79[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]60[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]31[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]93.9[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]19[/TD]
    [TD]Philip Rivers[/TD]
    [TD]SD[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]379[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]570[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]66.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]35.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,286[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]267.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]31[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]18[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]213[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]59[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]57[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]36[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]93.8[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: even"]
    [TD]20[/TD]
    [TD]Alex Smith[/TD]
    [TD]KC[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]303[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]464[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]65.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]30.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3,265[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]7.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]217.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]18[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]6[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]175[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]37.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]70T[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]40[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]3[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]45[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]93.4[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: odd"]
    [TD]21[/TD]
    [TD]Ryan Tannehill[/TD]
    [TD]MIA[/TD]
    [TD]QB[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]392[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]590[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]66.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]36.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: right, align: right"]4,045[/TD]
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  2. Fin-Omenal

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    Trade Tannehill for Nassib. Easy game
     
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  3. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Pardon me if I missed something, but what are you saying?
     
  4. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Clarity.

    Tony Romo is clearly the best QB in the league.

    Also clear is the fact you should take Big Ben over Manning and Brady.

    Oh yeah and Joe Flacco - it's clear that Super Bowl ring = Elite.
     
  5. plc001

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    The biggest difference is number of sacks... Followed by lack of 40+ plays... I'm not sure if you supporting tanne or not... But the stats say to me he'll be a good qb if we remove half those sacks.
     
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  6. Tannephins

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    Well the stats certainly shouldn't tell you that, since the passing stats in the original post are comprised only of plays in which passes are thrown, and of course when there's a sack, there isn't a pass thrown.
     
  7. resnor

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    The table also includes sacks...so the stats in the OP do tell us something about sacks.
     
  8. Tannephins

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    This is what the guy said, however:

    There is nothing in the table that tells anyone (myself included) what would happen "if we remove half [of] those sacks."
     
  9. Galant

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    Looking at the top 14 QB's (in bold) 6 of the top 7 all have less than 30 sacks (exception is Big Ben with 33) and of the bottom 7 QB's, 5 of them have more than 30 sacks with 4 of them having more than 40 sacks (exceptions being Eli and Flacco who 28 and 19 respectively and who are, incidentally, the bottom two QB's out of the 14).

    Might mean nothing, then again might support a common sense argument that poorer OL play (or, potentially, QB movement/evasion) leads to poorer QB performance/results.
     
  10. Tannephins

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    For teams, the correlation between sack percentage (sacks per pass attempt) and QB rating in 2014 was -0.43. The correlation between sacks and YPA was -0.23.

    So 94.7% of the variance in the most critical passing game stat in the NFL -- YPA -- is associated with things other than sacks.
     
  11. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Did those stats take into account total number of sacks? One would imagine the cumulative effect of many sacks could play a factor in affecting a QB's decision making and focus.
     
  12. Tannephins

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    Why would that be more explanatory than the percentage of times the QB is sacked per pass attempt? The sheer number of sacks would be a worse measure, because 48 sacks for example out of 10 thousand pass attempts (hypothetically speaking for the sake of argument) would be nothing, whereas 48 sacks out of 100 pass attempts would be a whole different story.

    Also, believe it or not, the Dolphins' number of sacks in 2014 wasn't significantly greater than the league average.
     
  13. resnor

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    Now we get into the gray area...for instance, Tannehill drops back, and pressure comes off both edges and up the middle, resulting in a sack. That is far different than say, a QB dropping back and defense rushes only four guys, and the coverage is so good that after 4 or 5 seconds, one of the rushers is able to get to the QB. Both are sacks, but one is most definitely more of a problem. How many times last season did we see Tannehill try to climb in the pocket, after pressure came quickly off both edges, only to have nowhere to escape up the middle due to the center/guard being pushed into the backfield.
     
  14. Tannephins

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    The question is whether that happened any more often for him than it did for other QBs. Obviously when we watch this team with a great deal of an emotional investment, and we watch other teams with presumably far less of an emotional investment, we're prone to a systematic bias that makes us believe it's happening far more to Tannehill than it is to other QBs.

    And that says nothing about how much the fault for sacks lies with Tannehill, which is an entirely different area of investigation.
     
  15. resnor

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    You are right, I don't know how often other teams have the same issue, as I don't watch every game of every team. What I do know, is that all too often, the pressure on Tannehill wasn't coming from one side. It was coming from both ends and up the middle. And it was coming on 4 man rushes. Now, if a team can get quick pressure on the QB, while only rushing 4 guys, that leaves 7 guys out in coverage. That doesn't leave a whole lot of options for the QB, either to throw or run. In my opinion, it's safe to say that most teams, or most GOOD teams, aren't giving up quick pressure to 4 man rushes. It's understandable to give up quick pressure to blitzes, but not to 4 man rushes. This is why I say, though, that the stats on sacks don't really tell us anything, other than how many times he was sacked. We don't know if he was facing more pressure on average than other QBs, even if the number of sacks wasn't statistically greater. I find it hard to believe that Tannehill wasn't being hit/sacked significantly more than the average teams. Of course, even if it wasn't more than the "average" team, it was most certainly more than the "good/great" teams. Good/great teams provide adequate protection for their QB.
     
  16. Galant

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    I wasn't saying it was either/or, just that percentages by themselves can be misleading since one play and one sack = 100%. Total/Actual number isn't the 'be-all-and-end-all', as you've said, but it does matter.
    One big reason it matters is because QB's are human beings with memory and also ability to be injured. Now mental and physical resilience will vary from QB to QB but each hit will take some sort of toll. So the total number of those hits will matter even if it won't be easy to compare the effect from QB to QB.
     
  17. Stringer Bell

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    If you're arguing who is a better overall QB, you should really look at more than one season.
     
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  18. Tannephins

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    What you're saying is still a better argument for the percentage of sacks, rather than the sheer number. 25 sacks out of 100 pass attempts (25%) is going to create more of the sort of "memory" you're talking about (bolded above) than 50 sacks out of 500 pass attempts (10%).
     
  19. Tannephins

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    Then again, the whole area of exploration isn't really meaningful, because quarterback performance, as measured by certain statistics, isn't strongly correlated with either sacks or pressure.

    The strongest testament to this in an area in which we're intimately familiar is that Tannehill's performance improved a great deal in 2014, despite that his offensive line's pass blocking performance did not. That of course is a sample size of only one, but it's consistent with what the far larger sample of data shows.
     
  20. plc001

    plc001 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    First... if you don't understand how I came to a conclusion you should ask rather than assuming you know something I dont. Here's another meaningless stat for you "Posts: 1454". Know matter your post count and level of interaction with other people online... you still come across like an *** clown.

    I'll take my lumps from the moderators on that one, ive deemed it worthwhile.
     
  21. cbrad

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    Sure it does. The table includes sacks, so just plot sacks on the x-axis and whatever else you want on the y-axis and see the relationship. You can then extrapolate what would be expected to happen JUST based on that table when sacks are halved. Any stat in that table can be used as a predictor of any other. Naturally, you can't claim a causal relationship, but that's true for practically every stat.
     
  22. surferosa

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    The number that bothers me the most is the 6.9 average. Only Curler and Orton were worse among starters. IMO this will be Tannehill's biggest challenge this year and indicator of success - especially if were going to throw 600 times again.
     
  23. resnor

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    I don't see how you can possibly truly argue this. We all know that Tannehill has struggled to get above a 7ypa. How can you separate out the effect that sacks have on the types of throws he's making? How you can you take out of the equation the fact that on most balls, Tannehill was getting hit just as he threw? I don't care if he put up all-time great numbers, it doesn't mean that sacks don't affect QB play. Sacks may not...but constant pressure does. Sacks are generally a function of pressure.

    Sidenote: I do not agree that we have to cut Tannehill's sack number in half to have a good QB. I believe we have a good QB, with the potential to be great, right now.
     
  24. Tannephins

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    Right, but the table alone isn't doing that for anyone, obviously, and the real relationships that are obtained when the relevant math is actually done is a testament to how that "visual" conclusion is in error.
     
  25. resnor

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    That number doesn't bother me so much, as for the pretty much the last 2/3 of the season, Tannehill averaged above a 7ypa. And that was with his first year learning a new offense.
     
  26. Tannephins

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    You simply take a look at whether sacks are correlated with his YPA on a game-by-game basis, and they are not. In other words, when he's sacked less his YPA generally isn't higher, and when he's sacked more, it generally isn't lower.
     
  27. Fin D

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    Which is an excellent example of why YPA is not the end all be all stat.
     
  28. Tannephins

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    What determines that is its relationship with winning, not its relationship with sacks.
     
  29. cbrad

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    Well, that's a simple calculation. Point is, the information is in the table.

    This is what I get when I do linear regression on Sacks (SK) vs. Passer rating (PR) from that table: The equation for the line is:

    PR = -0.1627 * SK + 100.29

    So, going from SK=46 (for Tannehill) to SK=23 gives you expected PR = 96.54 as opposed to his current 92.8.

    And what exactly are these "real relationships" you refer to? You obviously must know them since you're saying the above calculation is a "visual error".
     
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  30. Tannephins

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    The above calculation hadn't been a part of the thread when I mentioned a "visual error," and so I wasn't referring to that, obviously.

    The "real relationships" I'm referring to are in post #10.

    Also, 23 sacks would've put Tannehill 1.23 standard deviations below the mean in the league in 2014, so best of luck having that happen.
     
  31. Fin D

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    If it doesn't determine its relationship to sacks, then why are you using it in a discussion about sacks?
     
  32. cbrad

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    OK.. in post #10 you say:

    This tells us nothing about the "real relationship" between sacks and QB rating. What I'd accept as an answer would be something that tells you how sacks affect QB performance, preferably in a causal manner. If not in a causal manner, then it has to be something more than just saying there's a correlation. All you point out with YPA is that the amount of variance in QB rating explained by sacks is relatively small, which is borne out by the calculation I did from the table. But nowhere do you tell us what that relationship is like.
     
  33. Fin D

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    Yup.

    If being sacked on a play prevents a TD or completion, then sacks affect QB rating since TDs, completions & yards are used to determine QB rating.
     
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  34. Tannephins

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    What if it prevents an incompletion or an interception, which are also used to determine QB rating?
     
  35. cbrad

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    Still OK.. point is, it affects the result.
     
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  36. Tannephins

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    I was addressing the comment that if sacks were halved, QBs' (or Tannehill's) performance would improve. That statement isn't supported by the correlation I mentioned.
     
  37. Fin D

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    Then it still affects it, no?
     
  38. Tannephins

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    And if sacks affect those things -- the positive and the negative ones -- roughly equally, one would expect little to no relationship between sacks and QB rating, which is in fact what we see when we do the math league-wide.

    Imagine for example that half the times Ryan Tannehill took a sack, he instead heaved up a Geno Smith-esque prayer that resulted in an interception. What would his QB rating look like then?
     
  39. cbrad

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    What?? Of course it does. You stated the correlation was -0.43 for sack percentage and QB rating. That means if sack percentage goes up, QB rating goes down. You also stated the correlation was -0.23 between sacks and YPA. That means if sacks go up, YPA goes down. In both cases, it supports the claim that if sacks were reduced (or halved even) QB performance is expected to go up.
     
  40. Fin D

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    The numbers don't bare that out though. Tannehill had way more TDs than Ints. Plus, sacks still count as attempts and attempts are part of the QB rating equation.
     

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