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2015 First Round Draft Pick

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by TomLikePhinsUk, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I would say he has the making of a great corner. Size, speed, experience. Sign me up.
     
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  2. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I'm starting to think if Gurley is available, we'd be insane not to get him...
     
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  3. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I'd be ecstatic if we drafted Todd Gurley.
     
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  4. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    i'd be pissed with gurley, a first on a RB that might not even play the first year bc he's recovering from a ACL tear? no thank you.
     
  5. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Gurley is going to be there in the second round, maybe even early 3rd round too. I bet Gordon gets drafted at 20 something, and I wouldn't be shocked if another running back was picked before Gurley.. Gurley when healthy is obviously Top 2 in this draft, but no one knows how the knee will react..
     
  6. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Hell to the no thank you.
     
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  7. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    Finally, a reason to share my board! (Not that it really makes an ounce of a difference, but at least it's fun). Anyways, I've devoted hours upon hours into studying film from the top prospects in the nation, and feel as though this is a quality, unbiased board, worth taking a look at. (Of note, I was only wrong about one prospect in the 2014 draft - Mike Evans, whom I projected as a bust).

    Miami Dolphins Big Board


    Positional Needs
    HB, WR, G, DT, LB, CB


    HB’s
    Targets
    1: Todd Gurley - First (Top 25)
    2: Melvin Gordon - First
    3: David Johnson - Second
    4: Ameer Abdullah - Second
    5: Tevin Coleman - Third
    Players to Avoid
    Duke Johnson
    Jay Ajayi
    T.J. Yeldon
    Sleepers
    1: Zach Zenner - Fifth
    2: John Crockett - Sixth
    3: Dominque Brown - Seventh
    4: B.J. Catalon - Undrafted


    WR’s
    Targets
    1: Amari Cooper - First (Top 5)
    2: DeVante Parker - First
    3: Jaelen Strong - First
    4: Phillip Dorsett - Second
    5: Devin Smith - Second
    Players to Avoid
    Kevin White
    Devin Funchess
    Doral Green-Beckham
    Sleepers
    1: Ty Montgomery - Third
    2: George Farmer - Seventh
    3: Vernon Johnson - Undrafted
    4: Jordan Taylor - Undrafted


    G's
    Targets
    1: La’el Collins - First (Top 15)
    2: Laken Tomlinson - Second
    3: Mark Glowinski - Third
    4: Josue Matias - Fourth
    5: Shaq Mason - Fourth
    Players to Avoid
    Brandon Scherff
    Arie Kouandjio
    Tre Jackson
    Sleepers

    1: Robert Myers - Sixth
    2: Quinton Spain - Seventh
    3: Antoine Everett - Seventh
    4: Kaleb Johnson - Undrafted


    DT’s
    Targets
    1: Malcom Brown - First (Top 15)
    2: Danny Shelton - First
    3: Eddie Goldman - Second
    4: Grady Jarrett - Third
    5: Marcus Hardison - Third
    Players to Avoid
    Leonard Williams
    Arik Armstead
    Michael Bennett
    Sleepers
    1: Derrick Lott - Fifth
    2: Rakeem Nunez-Roches - Seventh
    3: James Castleman - Seventh
    4: Leon Orr - Undrafted


    LB’s

    Targets
    1: Vic Beasley - First (Top 10)
    2: Eric Kendricks - Second
    3: Benardrick McKinney - Second
    4: Lorenzo Mauldin - Third
    5-T: Taiwan Jones - Third
    5-T: Denzel Perryman - Third
    Players to Avoid
    Shane Ray
    Randy Gregory
    Paul Dawson
    Sleepers
    1: Jake Ryan - Third
    2: Zach Hodges - Fourth
    3: Hayes Pullard - Fifth
    4: Edmond Robinson - Seventh


    CB's
    Targets
    1: Trae Waynes - First
    2: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu - Second
    3: Jalen Collins - Second
    4: Quinten Rollins - Second
    5: Alex Carter - Second
    Players to Avoid
    Kevin Johnson
    Marcus Peters
    P.J. Williams
    Sleepers
    1: Craig Mager - Fourth
    2: Imoan Claiborne - Sixth
    3: Cam Thomas - Undrafted
    4: Justin Coleman - Undrafted

    Personally, I would take La'el Collins in the first, followed by Ifo Ekpre-Olomu in the second, and Jake Ryan in the fourth. After that, I would look at some big-bodied wide receivers, such as Dezmin Lewis, DeVante Davis, Deontay Greenberry and Vince Mayle, in addition to a powerful running back with a violent running style - either Jeremy Langford or Dominque Brown. Then, with our final selection, I'd consider some of my projected 'sleepers' at DT - Rakeem Nunez-Roches, James Castleman, or Leon Orr.

    Seriously, someone hire me.:cry:
     
  8. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    take off the tunnel vision...see the big picture...there is more football coming in year 2,3,4,5....
     
  9. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    after seeing your board and the "players to avoid" i don't see a reason why someone should
     
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  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The officials call PI a lot tighter in the NFL than college. Things he got away with as for being grabby, he won't get away with as much in the NFL.
     
  11. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I see Gurley's running style translating better to the NFL than Gordon's. Melvin reminds me of Eric Dickerson. That's great if you have a great o-line ala the LA Rams at the time. Not so sure Gurley can't just create by his damn self...
     
  12. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    We have a feature back that had some of the best stats in the league last year and he is only 23 years old!!

    All we need to complement him is an excellent 3rd down back with great hands. I would seriously consider drafting Ty Montgomery if he slides to us in the 4th. It would give us the best KR/PR guy in the draft(and nobody else is close imo) and if he could learn how to block he may actually have a future as a 3rd down back, I don't see one at WR.

    This is another huge reason we don't need to spend a high pick at RB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aLXkNnbn1o
    College football's 2014 rushing leader is still projected by the idiots,oops I mean scouts, to go undrafted.
    If he is still there in the 5th this should be a no-brainer. This kid has potential.
     
  13. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree. Why are we discussing gurley or Gordon when we have Miller? Get moreno back and we have a decent pairing. Even ridley isn't objectionable, especially if the alternative is a 1st round pick. I'd rather see us with parker or Waynes or scherff. Someone who we actually need as an improvement.
     
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  14. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Todd Gurley has the potential to be a first ballot HOF.
     
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  15. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    Boy, the media really has sucked everyone in. There will be more "busts" at the top of this draft class than any class before it. This years prospects have been hyped up by the media more than usual, and it's likely due to the iconic personalities that the NFL just can't wait to make money off of (Jameis Winston, Kevin White, etc.) Put on some tape, these guys are good, but few are transcendent talents, and many will struggle to adjust to the NFL's playing standards. Teams themselves aren't even high on Leonard Williams, for example, and I'd be willing to wager that he falls out of the top five. Think Sharif Floyd in the 2013 NFL Draft.

    Let's re-visit this conversation in a couple years, okay buddy? ;)
     
  16. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    Is that enough of a reason to draft someone? We've needs that should be addressed before what is ultimately a luxury pick. We have a good RB in Miller and we could get a decent change of pace elsewhere for not much.
     
  17. jorser

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    Lamar Miller is a free agent in 2016. We cant pay them all.
     
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  18. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    he also has the potential to be the derek rose of football...
     
  19. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Gordon doesn't remind me of Dickerson at all, but if he is like Eric than "Wow!", what a catch.
     
  20. surferosa

    surferosa Balance and Vision

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    I don't see how we invest $100m in Tannehill without surrounding him with better receivers. It makes zero sense to me. At 14 we are perfectly positioned to grab one of the many talented WR's in the draft. My preference is Perriman but any of the top receivers would work.
     
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  21. icebergslim

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    Dgb...........
     
  22. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I understand that. However, I still think he can be taught not to grab so much. And, IMO, if he is he will be a top corner in the NFL.
     
  23. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    What is the point in having a receiver who can't receive. Breshaud Perriman=Darius Heyward-Bey.
     
  24. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Ahh yes, because the only way someone could possibly disagree with your list is if they're "media persuaded". :unsure: The arrogance is strong with this one.
     
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  25. rafael

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    I would be fine with Gurley although I prefer Gordon. It is unlikely that Gurley makes it to the second round (saying he'll make it to the 3rd round is just ridiculous).
     
  26. Fin4Ever

    Fin4Ever Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I would be willing to bet that Gurley is ready by training camp with no problem.
     
  27. Fin4Ever

    Fin4Ever Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That sure is putting allot of faith in this coaching staff. I do not have it in me anymore to depend on Philbin and Coyle. But I do like Wayne's. I feel that with Tannehill looking for the big payday next off season that we really need to go ahead and get this offense settled once and for all with pretty good to great talent starting at every offensive position. We cannot get everything we need this year but there is plenty enough talent to pick up another very good RB,WR,G,TE..ETC..next year we can get the rest of the players needed to make us a very solid, and talented football team.
     
  28. TomLikePhinsUk

    TomLikePhinsUk New Member

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    Tannehill and Miller will both want paying in 2016. if Tannehill is after that $100 million+ mark then combing that with Suh's monster contract means we will have to just keep getting young WR's and other weapons through the draft where we won't be able to hold onto them past their rookie contracts. If Parker is free at 14 then draft him, however, I feel that New Orleans will bag him and therefore we should get a veteran in like Crabtree or Jennings on a one-year prove it deal and take Waynes to start building our secondary around him as Grimes begins to age.
     
  29. Sceeto

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    Perriman or Waynes.
     
  30. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    CB Trae Waynes is my pick if he falls to us.
     
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  31. Fin D

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    I disagree. The only thing stopping anyone from saying the #2 is locked down by Taylor is injuries. He's not a scrub. When camp starts, he'll be #2 after Grimes regardless of who we draft.
     
  32. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    They're teaching him to be physical in coverage especially while looking up for the football. They're teaching him how to physically affect the receiver without being so obvious as to get called for it. Just like they taught Darqueze Dennard, who makes Trae Waynes look as hands-off a born-again teen at prom.

    The fact he's got only 9 penalties in 2 seasons is highly relevant because he uses his physical coverage most often either at the jam when you're allowed to, or while looking up for the ball and staying with the receiver (which is a rare skill). Even NFL officials let you get away with a lot if you're looking up for the ball.

    Calling him Brandon Browner with more speed is somewhere between ridiculous and intriguing. If Brandon Browner had the kind of speed and movement skills of Trae Waynes he very well may be a shutdown corner like Revis or Sherman.
     
  33. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I strongly disagree with this. I think the tape shows that he doesn't get physical in coverage because he has to. He gets physical in coverage because he can.
     
  34. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Pretty good debut for a message board draft evaluator though. Expansive, ranking oriented, needlessly dismissive and condescending toward dissenting opinions, and even a de facto assertion at the end that he's as good as professionals.

    The guy should get a badge.
     
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  35. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    What makes you prefer Gordon?
     
  36. Rouk

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    Philip Dorsett seriously lol are we going for the smallest wr core in the nfl
     
  37. Piston Honda

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    I agree Taylor has the talent. Ability to stay healthy is a pretty important factor tho, no? Taking a CB early provides insurance for Taylor plus it adds a young guy to groom as Grimes' replacement.
     
  38. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think rafael has his reasons but the elephant in the room is that one player has a freshly inserted cadaver's ligament in his knee while the other is as god made him.
     
  39. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Ok, (not trying to single you out), but people aren't reading the conversation.

    So, I'll start my stance again.

    I think Taylor is going to start camp and the season opposite Grimes. Because of that and the fact that the #2 corner spot is the least important part of the secondary, tells me we don't need to spend a first round pick on a back up of the least important position in the secondary.
     
  40. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Yeah, this topic will probably linger. Gurley just looks way more polished in his style.You'd think Gurley would be a more effective pass blocker also.
     

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