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Mike Tanier of Bleacher Report Projects Jaelen Strong to Miami at No. 14

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by thetylernator, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2437261-2015-nfl-mock-draft-mike-taniers-round-1-picks/page/15

    For those of you too lazy to click the link, here is the write-up: "I rank Strong higher than most mock drafters, ahead of DeVante Parker and Breshad Perriman. He’s slippery when he gets off the line of scrimmage, works comebacks routes very well, has double-move capability as a deep threat and can go up and get contested or off-target balls (the Hail Mary catch against USC is a memorable example). Arizona State quarterbacks tended to spray their passes outside the hash marks, and the Sun Devils didn’t have a second downfield threat, so Strong faced a lot of stiff coverage and leapt for many uncatchable balls. That said, a 6'2" receiver with 4.44 speed and 82 receptions really doesn’t need all that much top-15 justification.Pencil in Strong, and the Dolphins receiving corps goes from this in 2013:

    • Mike Wallace: $30 million hypothetical half-hearted decoy deep threat.
    • Brian Hartline: When the Dolphins needed six yards, he got them six yards. When the Dolphins needed 16 yards, he got them six yards.
    • Brandon Gibson: A fine player to keep around if you want Hartline to look like a dynamic playmaker by comparison.
    • Rishard Matthews: Hard working perma-prospect.
    To this in 2015:

    • Jarvis Landry: Actual possession receiver, as opposed to a guy who cannot get open deep or do anything after the catch and therefore gets rationalized as a “possession receiver.”
    • Kenny Stills: Smooth intermediate threat that Dolphins fans will soon fall in love with. Only available because of the Saints Chapter 11 sale.
    • Jaelen Strong: Not as explosive as Wallace, but doesn’t wait until he is open by three steps and ball is placed on his fingertips before putting forth an effort.
    • Greg Jennings: Signed as affordable depth. The last general manager would have given him six years at $72 trillion.
    • Rishard Matthews: Well, you’re never gonna get rid of this guy.
    Looks like progress to me!"
     
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  2. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I'd be very disappointed with that pick at #14.
     
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  3. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    Jaelen Strong has been up and down draft boards from us to the second round. There is so much guesswork going on by all these dudes. Part of the fun I guess. I think I listened to a finsradio pod where the draft boy they had on, not CK, stated he thought strong was the best after amari cooper. Maybe I misremember. Do our learned friends agree or disagree here?
     
  4. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    Jaelen Strong reminds me of Anquan Boldin. That said, I think a player of Boldin's style is certainly worth a gamble at No. 14, but I also think that he can be obtained in a trade-down scenario. Unless Andy Reid drafts him. That sounds like something Andy Reid would do. Damn it, Andy Reid.
     
  5. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I thought overall that guy's mock draft was pretty poor and unrealistic. He isn't good enough to be making joke picks for 19 and 20 either. There was a 7 round mock on B/R just yesterday that seemed much more logical to me.
    Our picks were
    14. La'el Collins
    47. Devin Funchess
    4th was David Johnson
    the two 5ths were CB Kevin White and Taiwan Jones
    The 6th was Tavaris Barnes
     
  6. zwave21

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    Jalen Strong in a trade back in round 1 I'd be more than ok with. But, would be foolish to choose him over superior player at need position like La'el Collins, DeVante Parker, or Kevin Johnson.
     
  7. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Wow that would be disappointing...
     
  8. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Me too. I would only CONSIDER it if it were in a trade back situation.
     
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  9. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    I just don't think the Dolphins are going to pick a WR at 14 (unless it's White/Cooper/Parker) because I think the top 3 will be gone already. I think they either snag Gurley if he's still there or they go OL with Collins, or Trae Waynes if he's there. I think it either has to be high-risk reward (Gurley) or great value at the spot. Instead, trading back allows them to look at getting more into the 2nd and 3rd rounds and maybe more, where we don't any enough/any picks.
     
  10. DolphinGreg

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    Jaelen Strong…well, it’s about time his name got brought up.

    He is an interesting WR prospect who certainly has the body of an NFL receiver. At certain points I almost felt like I was watching a young Vincent Jackson. I believe NFL.com made the comparison to Dwayne Bowe as well. Jaelen Strong is a big guy who could definitely add something unique to Miami’s offense, particularly on 3rd downs as a more physical possession receiver than Hartline had ever been.

    The value of Strong will rest on Miami’s evaluation and how raw they think he is and how far he's likely to fall. With improved route-running, Strong could be almost dominant at the NFL level the way Vincent Jackson was early in his career with San Diego. Then again, look at Vincent Jackson in Tampa these last several years—garbage.

    I don’t know what exactly Miami wants. I’ve been led to believe they want guys that play fast. They specifically said that about Landry last year and Stills is another young, aggressive receiver with speed and tenacity. It all depends on the team’s prerogative. If Miami is looking for a complementary WR— a big, possession type who could also help in the red zone—I could easily see them target Jaelen Strong, particularly if they believe in his work ethic.
     
  11. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I really like Jaelen Strong. But I think there are receivers that rate better.

    One receiver that rates better for me that won't rate better for everyone else is Tyler Lockett.

    This is very much about what these players are RIGHT NOW. Take the evil "p" word out of the equation. Right now it's crystal clear that Tyler Lockett is a better football player than Jaelen Strong. Go watch Strong play against UCLA and then go watch Lockett play against UCLA. Strong's game against UCLA was not nearly as bad as some like to pretend, but it's also clear that Lockett was purely the more dangerous player that hurt that secondary a lot more.

    Lockett's ability to create separation against man coverage is probably the best in the draft, bar none. Count whoever you want, Amari Cooper, Kevin White, doesn't matter. Bar none. He makes it look easy and he does it on a very wide variety of routes.

    Where you start to knock Lockett down is the obvious. He's 5'10" & 182 lbs. Maybe he gets to 190 lbs someday. But you know what? If you're going to be on that borderline from a size standpoint, at least be fast as sh-t. And he is that. He's fast as sh-t. I've always seen a cross between Golden Tate and DeSean Jackson and who the hell wouldn't want that? Feisty as hell over the middle, and can leap buildings to go get the ball. Knows how to shield the catch with his body. Has a history of being a bit of a body catcher but this year really stepped up with his hands a lot better and showed he can be a good hands catcher. Great NFL bloodlines.

    So when I have a guy like Lockett who will probably go 3rd round ranked ahead of a guy like Jaelen Strong, I would probably be a little disappointed in Miami for taking Jaelen Strong at 14 overall.

    On the other hand, the point of this whole thing is to get good players, and I think Jaelen Strong is a good player. So maybe it's moot.
     
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  12. ASUFinFan

    ASUFinFan Uh huh

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    I would love this pick, but that's me. Guy makes plays. High points the ball in traffic, excellent hands, back shoulder fades all day. Caught a td pass this past year with a separated shoulder causing him to only be able to use one arm for the catch. There are just a ton of good WR's in this draft.
     
  13. Fin-Omenal

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    We could do alot worse than Jalen Strong if we go WR. He isnt sexy deep but we just had the best deep threat in the league and couldnt use him, so a guyblike Strong who can take those 5 yard slants amd make them 10yd gains is fine by me.
     
  14. ASUFinFan

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    Strong vs UCLA is a bad game to dissect him as a WR and ASU's offense as a whole. That was the first game without QB Taylor Kelly (injury), and it was Berco's first career college start. The offense as a whole was off that night trying to adjust. The offense wasn't humming until the ASU-USC game. I do like Lockett a lot though!!
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    Any game is a good one to dissect because a detail oriented approach is always going to show you things. Strong had a better game than some people say he did, as I stated pretty clearly. But he did not have the game that Tyler Lockett did. Lockett simply could not be covered. Nobody could keep him from getting separation in man coverage. That was not true of Jaelen Strong and it really doesn't matter who was throwing at QB.
     
  16. RalphX19X

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    Like Strong quite a bit myself but at 14 I don't know. In the 2nd round I'm psyched.
     
  17. 77FinFan

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    Lockett has really small hands at 8 3/8". Dorsett's are right at an inch larger.


    I would really like someone to take the punt return duties away from Jarvis. Kickoff return I'm ambivalent about.
     

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