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Is Jeff Ireland back in charge of the draft ?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dolphinzdawgg, May 1, 2015.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    That has no bearing on this.

    I mean had we taken one of the LBs there, I could have said "This is what I know, one time we took a 2nd rd LB it was Eddie Moore."

    That wouldn't have been a valid concern or point, so neither is this.
     
  2. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Our run defense was terrible. That's enough for me to not have an issue with this pick. Suh can't play every position on the line. Stopping the run is going to be key against Buffalo and the Jest
     
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  3. sandcastle

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    What I find interesting is that drafted players that line up opposite of the team's glaring needs of G & CB?

    Last training camp, Wake went hard to prep JaWuan James. Perhaps, the strategy for this year's camp is to try to get inexperienced players (B Turner, D Thomas, J Taylor, W Davis, and draft picks) up to game speed by challenging them with athletic freaks. This approach seemed to work better during the Bowens/Gardner era when the G position was filled by cagey veterans and emerging unknowns (Mark Dixon and Jamie Nails). Likewise, how much did last season's WR's test the defensive backfield? In some games, it seem that they played soft in the 1st half and tightened coverage in the 2nd. With experienced QBs with NFL arms and significant WR depth, the defensive backs will not get any easy practice reps.
     
  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Byroan posted this in Club:

    I think we don't need to question his motivation very much.
     
  5. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    5th round players cost LESS $$$. $$$ are a premium going forward in Miami
     
  6. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    I wanted a middle linebacker at that spot too but did it ever occur to people that Miami didn't want Perryman, after MN took Kendricks the trade down happened, that's who they wanted and when he was gone they took the Philly offer.
     
  7. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is definitely true. To what extent? I don't know, but it's certainly true.

    Many of us have probably thought similar things--or at least about the idea of how competition in practice relates to game-day performance. I think it's certainly a big factor is why certain teams seem so talented across the board and why some teams seem to be better at developing their younger players.

    Covering Hartline and Matthews in practice does not prepare you for covering a real play-maker on Sunday. Going up against average DTs probably isn't helping either, I agree with that.
     
  8. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Because you can gauge motivation by a single tweet...
     
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  9. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Since when does that matter? Miami didn't want a lot of players that turned out awesome. I could list them, but it would take forever.
     
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  10. sandcastle

    sandcastle Active Member

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    I try to look for trends in Dolphins' drafts, such as last year Hickey using top picks on NFL ready (SEC players) to fill less 'valuable' positions (RT & slot WR) and gambled with drafting players from minor conferences. Parcells & Ireland liked to double down in a position and frequently drafted opposing positions in same year.

    My guess is when compare this year's draft versus the combine results for W Davis & Brice McCain, there isn't an athletic reason to use a valuable draft. Moreover, Coyle has a track record with achieving results with veteran CBs. Likewise, it seems all guards have some type of limitation so practice reps are critical for a guard to make adjustments and the OL to gel.

    That say, this could be a very effective draft if the previously drafted young players start to produce. Moreover, I think they may keep all of their 5th round picks as development picks are more easy to stash on IR and practice squad. This would be another significant difference from the Parcells' era where he wanted to see if young players could compete.
     
  11. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    Oh ok so they should take a player they didn't feel was high enough on their board worth taking or had someone ranked higher they did want. Brilliant
     
  12. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    like teh idea of creating depth with young guys in the 5th . instead of 6 & 7 round. We need alot depth. nervous we'll have all our guys poached from NE the second they hit the practice squad though. Go phins
     
  13. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    And who says there board is right? Brilliant.
     
  14. cbrad

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    I think it's obvious the Dolphins drafted who they thought was most valuable. Not sure how one can argue that. Clark Kent is just pointing out that we (including you) assigned different values to Perryman than the Dolphins did, and that NFL teams often value prospects wrong. I think that's obvious too.
     
  15. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    I understand teams can be wrong lol trust me, and I am not saying Miami couldn't be wrong about Phillips my point is why take a player the team obviously didn't value because they missed out on the one they did. I did miss what Clark was saying to a point but again to Clark Miami doesn't feel their board is absolutely positively right I am sure but they put it together they have to trust it. Oh I wanted Perryman too. Or Kendricks
     
  16. Coral Reefer

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    Good ILB is a big key in stopping the run.
    Just sayin.
     
  17. Dolphinzdawgg

    Dolphinzdawgg Banned

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    2nd round picks are not usually made for depth, but as starters.....:pity:
     
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  18. Dolphinzdawgg

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    Well to be honest Kenny Stills is our 3rd.....basically
     
  19. Dolphinzdawgg

    Dolphinzdawgg Banned

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    No, I just don't like this pick. And how dare you say something like that.....you have no idea of my history and that is a personal attack.
     
  20. Dolphinzdawgg

    Dolphinzdawgg Banned

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    NOTHING if he can't or won't play........Perryman WAS NOT LAZY !
     
  21. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    ........lol.....
     
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    Kids are mad lol
     

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