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Jay Ajayi

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Sceeto, May 2, 2015.

  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    I really like this pick. I was going to put him in my mock, but i thought he would go earlier. He's the kind of back I've wanted to compliment Miller. He has power, but he also has good moves and can be a decent receiver out of the backfield. He's only going to get stronger in the NFL. Could be a good pick. Hope so. Miller and a good complimentary back has the potential to be pretty dangerous.

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  2. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I like this pick also.
     
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  3. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    I can't help but think of ricky williams while watching him run.

    youre welcome
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    dude is a legit 3 down running back with 2nd round talent.
     
  5. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Almost certainly would have gone in round 2-3 if not for concerns about the knee, but he obviously played well the last two years. Honestly, had you told me on Thursday morning that we'd get Parker in the first and Ajayi in the second, I'd have been excited. To get him in the 5th is damn awesome. He is a terrific compliment to Miller, and now we can pass or run, whichever is needed, as long as the OL cooperates.
     
  6. The Sportz Guy

    The Sportz Guy New Member

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    I'm totally stoked Miami STOLE him in round five. Exactly what the team needed to complement Lamar Miller. Hopefully his medical checks out, but I haven't heard of anything very serious. Ajayi is by far my favorite pick of the draft. Well done, Dolphins. Well done. I don't find myself saying that much, but hopefully things are changing in a good way.
     
  7. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Rumor has it he has bone on bone knee issues that are going to severely limit his career. Heard as short as 3 years.
     
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  8. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    Even if we get one contract out of him it will be worth it.
     
  9. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I read he passed our physical.
     
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  10. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think it's also worth noting he isn't a particularly good zone runner. He ran largely behind man-blocked plays, and a lot of people have brought up how frequently he bounces those to the outside.

    He's got upside and value but he's not a home-run necessarily either.
     
  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    He's as close to a homerun as you can get in 5th round before a game has been played.
     
  12. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    And Bree's didn't so what does that tell you?
     
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  13. Not So Fast

    Not So Fast Well-Known Member

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    Hard to say. Are the doctors and the people who make personnel decisions different or the same from 8 years ago?
     
  14. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    Was it that or the medical staff was too afraid to pass him and then have Saban's wrath if they were wrong So they didn't clear him out of fear of losing their job and went with Culpepper. Would serve Saban right if that was the case and his own dictorial ways screwed him.
     
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    normaldude Active Member

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  17. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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  18. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    On NFL Network during their draft telecast they stated that he had failed several team's physicals and had been taken off of several team's boards. I even saw an article a while back where Ajayi talked about his knee issues. So I wouldn't say it's just a rumor or a fabrication. The question is how serious of an issue is it? I remember Lacy had a similar report regarding some foot issue that dropped him to the second round, but he's been effective. Ajayi has been playing with it so he can clearly manage it.
     
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  19. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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  20. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    I would guess that already having 2 seasons with bone-on-bone, he'd be lucky to finish his rookie contract...KB chime in on this yet?
     
  21. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Depends on his pain tolerance. Some guys can't deal with it others can. Even if we get 3 years out of him it's worth it.
     
  22. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    When it comes to rounds 5-7, my attitude is no harm no foul. Players in this part of the draft rarely work out anyway. We had a bunch of picks to play with too, not just one. If the knee issue is serious, it was worth the gamble. If it's not serious and overblown as some say, that's a seriously nice pickup. You could make the case he's the 3rd best running back in this draft.


    I will say this... If his knee is as ****ed up as people say it is, someone please explain how this kid vert jumped 39", long jumped 121", ran 4.10 20 yard shuttle, ran 11.10 60 yard shuttle? All of which lead RB's at the combine. Daniel Thomas, a 2nd round pick after a trade up, dreams of having Ajayi's knee problems.
     
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  23. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    for where he was drafted its fine. use him for his one contract then let him go and move on to a fresh guy. If they let miller go after miller's rookie contract is up, then he's a nice stop gap till we draft more long term RB. Or if we resign Miller they will have a good tandem and his knee may not take as much wear and tear and he can last 2 contracts.
     
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  24. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Any word on Mike Gillislee?
     
  25. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    he is in trouble
     
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  26. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    What UCF Finatic said is spot on. It's about pain tolerance not lack of athleticism. The reports are that his knee is bone on bone. That would mean he's missing that cushion that allows your knee bones to articulate smoothly. That will cause pain as the bones rub against each other and eventually will require a knee replacement. But if you can take the pain and the bone isn't destroyed yet, you can jump as high or run as fast as you could with that cushion.
     
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  27. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    eh, have seen this situation lots of times, usually the player tends to over come draft blah blah projected difficulties

    One caveat would be Danario Alexander who literally blows out an ACL every couple of seasons.
     
  28. Dolphinzdawgg

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    Great value pick if we get anything out of him if the injury reports are true. I was thrilled to get him & still am excited as I was.
     
  29. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    On a somewhat related note: how have we not developed a procedure to inject a meniscus or meniscus type substitute into knees and joints where bone on bone contact exits?

    Or maybe they have and I am unaware.

    I also think bacon flavored ice cream should be invented.
     
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  30. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well hopefully he's healthy. I thought upgrading the team's RB talent was a much bigger deal than the front office and most here. I think Miller is much better as a change of pace guy than our main back, he can't tire teams out or dominate, he's just a guy IMO. I would have taken Gordon at 14 and solidified the offense instead of waiting around for someone to fall and hope that they stay healthy or pan out. I hope this kid can play and stay healthy.
     
  31. JdReimon

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    Check out Orthovisc, it's a hyaluronan gel that they inject into the joint space for people with Osteoarthritis. Acts more like a lubricant and a cushion. Just needs to be done every 6 months and in some cases just doesn't help.
     
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  32. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    If it's as bad as some say he wouldn't necessarily have to have knee replacement surgery while so young. Microfracture surgery is an option too. And that has a 50-80% success rate on people 45 years old and younger.(depending on what study you go with).

    Eighty-three percent of NBA players undergoing microfracture returned to professional basketball. Career length was not significantly different between players undergoing microfracture and controls. However, following microfracture, players competed in fewer games per season with fewer points and steals.

    http://ojs.sagepub.com/content/1/6/2325967113512759.full


    Here's an article mentioning Jadeveon Clowney's microfracture surgery.

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...surgery-has-good-success-if-right-5975703.php
     
  33. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Google synvisc...
     
  34. zwave21

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    Heard a lot of the same fears when Lacy came out regarding his issues. That he may only be a "One Contract" back. Ok, well for a 5th round pick who had 2nd round value that is more than ok. If we can get close to 4 to 5 years of productions out of a 5th round pick I'll take that any day.,

    What I like about him is he will have a chip on his shoulder. He had 1800+ rushing yards and 28 TD's along with 500+ receiving and 4TD's. Come on that is insane. HGE has been used a ton in college but he will be a complement and insurance if we can't sign Miller after this season. I think the pairing of these two along with Williams as a 3rd string provides a young and solid unit. We have a home run threat, a potential grinder, and a underrated do it all.
     
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  35. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Damn it, that isn't bacon flavored ice cream, at all!
     
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  36. wpgfishfan

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    So Philbin says he needs to work his way up the depth chart which I agree with. BUT knowing Philbin I'm worried he is gonna waste 1 year of a potentially 3 year career. This guy needs to be #2 by week 1. Then if he shows as good as his tape he will be 1A or 1B.

    Just worried Philbin will screw this up
     
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  37. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I thought that too. Prove himself on ST? Doing what, kick coverage? Let him carry the damn ball and move the sticks! Wasting time and years of a guy with a limited shelf life seems right up Philbin's alley.
     
  38. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    It really depends on pain tolerance. Having published pain research and having worked under the President of the American Pain Society (yes that's a real title) during that research I can say that pain is dependent on a lot of things.

    The paper I worked on specifically addressed pain vigilance's effect on pain tolerance and severity. In basic English, we found that a persons ability to tolerate pain and the how severe they rate that pain is directly related to how much they think about that pain. IE if you block out the pain mentally you will be able to tolerate more pain and the pain you feel will be less severe. On the flip side, if you catastrophize (think the pain is going to get worse and/or never going to stop) and pay attention to the pain you will be able to tolerate less pain and the pain you feel will be more severe.
     
  39. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Ajayi's 39 inch vert was 5th best at the combine for running backs
    His long jump was 5th best
    His 3 cone drill time was 3rd best
    His 60 yard shuttle was 2nd best
    His 3 cone drill was 12th best
     
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