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Why are we not allowed to spank our children anymore when they deserve it?...

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by CashInFist, Jun 6, 2015.

Should parents be allowed to spank their children?

  1. Yes, when they deserve it.

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  2. No, never. It's brutal and barbaric.

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  3. IDK, I'm undecided.

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  1. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    I have rarely been in the position to spank any of my children.

    They know it is an option, though. It's my "nuclear deterrent."

    By spanking, I mean a simple swat on the rear. That has been all it took the last time I had to use the "option."

    Haven't had to for years, and don't think I'll ever have to again, because my kids are pretty ****ing awesome. ;)

    It's in the playbook, though.
     
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  2. MikeHoncho

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    Been spanking my monkey for decades, does that count?

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  3. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Same here. I've only spanked my son a handful of times his whole life, now all I have to do is raise my voice and give him the look and he gets right in line immediately.
     
  4. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    C'mon bro. You're better than that. Go get laid. LOL
     
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  5. Boik14

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    No he's not better than that. That poor monkey.
     
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  6. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I have two girls. The oldest will be 4 in a few months, the youngest is 16 months. I have never, and will never spank/hit my children. Not once.

    As with all kids, they will sometimes act up or out, and do things that they should not. I really, really hate raising my voice, but I do on occasion. The most I will ever do is pick my older daughter up and carry her away from the situation and put her in a chair for time out.

    The important thing to remember is that kids don't think the same way that adults do, and as a parent, you always need to try and put yourself into their shoes. It can be hard, but parenting is hard. Spanking/hitting/beating is the coward's way out. A real man never hurts women or children.
     
  7. Den54

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    I never layed a hand on my son either while he was growing up. It was never in the playbook and he grew into a fine young man.
    It's better to be respected then feared as a parent imo.
     
  8. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    finding a rare counterpoint from a respected school doesn't prove your point, it just proves that the professor is trying to make a name for herself by making a bold statement. and to your previous post, advocating the occasional smack on the butt is not the same as spanking - which I thought was the original point of your OP.
     
  9. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Rare counterpoint? LOL

    It was a 12 year study. And I provided 3 links to prove my point. You have a counter?
     
  10. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    yes, it's called common sense.
     
  11. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Good for you, but don't call me a "coward" or not a "real man" because I've dared to swat any of my kids rear ends on occasion. If you're spanking and causing real pain, you're doing it wrong anyway.

    I was beaten as a child. Belts, switches, wooden spoons. Didn't happen often, but it hurt. I don't take that road at all.

    My kids will never deal with any of that, and my kids have no fear of me. None, nada, zip, zilch.



    I have two teenage daughters and a preteen son. I have their respect, love and trust. They never have to worry that I'm going to hurt them. They come to me if they have problems and I am glad I have that kind of relationship with them, because they know they can come to me with anything.

    The woman in the video above was not spanking. She was straight beating her son. That's not acceptable, IMO.
     
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  12. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Bulls**t. Show me a link to a real study. I showed you 3...


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  13. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    What should she have done? She probably saved his life. If my son was doing that I would have whooped his *** up and down the street just like his mom did. He deserved it.

    EDIT: Even the Chief of Police in Baltimore commended her and hoped more moms would take control of their children like she did...
     
  14. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Question: if I see a random kid doing something really ****ing stupid and beat the **** out of him "to save his life" is that okay? ...or are only parents allowed to beat the crap out of their kids?

    Maybe next time she can use a bat, perhaps break his legs so he CAN'T go do stupid ****...

    Just trying to take control of the situation and save a life, after all...

    That's NOT spanking, that's NOT discipline. That's using force to control behavior.
     
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  15. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Only parents should be allowed.

    As for the rest of your post? It's nonsense...


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  16. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Of course it's nonsense. So is the idea that it's okay to BEAT your children into compliance.

    If she was doing the same thing with a belt, is it okay? Wooden spoon? A switch? A broom handle? Frying pan? Where does it stop being discipline and start being abuse?

    If you're doing something to your child that he could fight back against a total stranger and be okay because it was obviously self defense, you're beating and not spanking. Period.
     
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  17. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    She was saving her son's life.

    I'm pretty sure this was an extenuating circumstance here. Don't you think?

    How would you have handled it?


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  18. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Don't know how I would've handled it. My kids wouldn't be in that situation, so I guess I'm lucky.

    As for extenuating circumstances: If someone else had happened to intervene on her behalf and do the exact same thing she did, to save the young man's life, would it be okay? Let's say it's not even a stranger... How about an uncle, cousin, older sibling, best friend, trusted neighbor?

    The law says no.

    If you say no to any of them, you have to say no to mom doing the same thing, IMO.
     
  19. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    C'mon man. Stop dodging. If that WAS your son, what would you have done? Stop skating...


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  20. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    My son is right here now reading it with me and said that he would have deserved a worse *** beating than the Baltimore riot boy got if he was doing that.


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  21. Fin D

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    Honest question....if you never caused pain when you did it, then how did it work or what was the point?
     
  22. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Not dodging or skating. I'll cross that line if I ever get to it. I don't expect I will.

    Mom in the video failed to instill the common sense into her son while he was growing up and is paying the price for it now. My kids won't get that out of hand because of the way I've raised them up to this point. I don't expect your son would either. You seem to keep him pretty well grounded.

    If it gets to that point, though, you have a plan. I don't. I believe that my kids respect and trust me enough to sit down and talk about it if it comes to that point, though.

    What I won't do, however, is allow my kids to believe that that kind of beating is normal behavior. No matter who is doing the beating.
     
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  23. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    How do you know that she didn't? Peer pressure is a pretty hard thing to overcome. And you still didn't say how you would have handled it if that was YOUR son out there rioting. I'd really like to know.
     
  24. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Honestly, it's a simple attention grab. It was reserved for something that could hurt them badly. Quick swat that startles them a bit is much better than the burn that would have occurred if they actually grabbed onto the stove or the shock if they got the key into the electrical outlet. That sort of thing... Like I said, didn't happen often...
     
  25. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    True, peer pressure is tough sometimes. That's why I make myself available to talk to my kids about anything. They're less likely to fall in with the wrong crowd because I'm doing my job properly.

    Like I said before, I don't know what I'd do. Honestly, though, it's a situation I am not likely to ever find myself in, so I don't worry about it. Ask my wife and you may get a totally different response because she worries about everything. [emoji6]
     
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  26. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    It seems like nobody on either side of the aisle of this debate will even answer honestly (except me - I would beat his ***). I don't know if they're scared to answer or what? LOL

    I'm pretty sure I'll never have to worry about being in that situation the same as you. I have a wonderful son and I instilled good morals into his life since birth. I just wish others would come out and say what they would do in that woman's situation. I think she's a HERO. (or is it HEROINE?) .
     
  27. Ohio Fanatic

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    I would not beat my kid in front of a crowd unless they were in the middle of sticking a knife into someone.

    I will say that nothing can absolutely prevent your kids from doing stupid stuff under peer pressure situation, but good parents like myself that talk to their children all the time about not succumbing to peer pressure and not being motivated by popularity, dramatically decrease the odds.
     
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  28. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    So, what would you have done?
     
  29. Two Tacos

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    She still could have grabbed him without pummeling him. Restraining is not the same as beating. I don't think anyone is saying you cannot be physical with your child. Striking is the issue correct?
     
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  30. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    You guys are living in a fantasy world. Do you think she should have tackled him instead? LOL
     
  31. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    So you DO have a breaking point where you WOULD beat your kid when they deserve it. That again was my point...
     
  32. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    No one deserves to be beaten. Ever. Especially kids.
     
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  33. Two Tacos

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    She should have done what she did with out the hitting. Grabbed him by the back of the neck and dragged him away. The only time he almost got away was when she let go to smack him. How is that fantasy?
     
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  34. Two Tacos

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    That's not a good analogy. I would stop a stranger from stabbing someone, that doesn't mean that I am allowed to beat strangers.
     
  35. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Weak post. I mean, seriously TT?

    He said that there is a breaking point where an *** whooping is in order. Maybe some of us have a different threshold, but there is still a time when it is needed.


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  36. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Based on what data and analysis?
     
  37. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I posted 3 links to verify my stance already. Did you read the thread? Nobody on the other side posted any...


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  38. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    So what would you have done if that was your son looting, burning buildings, rioting, and throwing rocks at cops? Nobody that is against spanking seems to want to answer that question.
     
  39. Stringer Bell

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    Disinherit.
     
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  40. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    No you wouldn't. But that was pretty funny. LOL
     

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