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I have reason for optimism

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan7171, Jun 28, 2015.

  1. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I may be the only one on this but I'll say it anyway. Last year's team could have easily had around 12 or 13 wins. Outside of games we obviously got our butts handed to us, we lost games we should've won. Some of those games we should've win by a touchdown or less while others by 2-3 touchdowns. I look at games like Detroit, Green Bay, Buffalo and Denver. Most if not all, we had a pretty decent lead going into the 4th quarter. Then we would lose it in the final minutes. For some reason something would go wrong. Most of the teams that was in the playoffs last year we beaten or should've beaten. If we gotten in, I honestly believe we could've survived and go deep into the playoffs. It really isn't that far of a stretch to think about. It actually could've happened. But it didn't.

    Despite of all of what I just said, I feel I have reason for optimism. Although I have to admit, I feel I'm optimistic year about the Dolphins, I feel this year is much more special. You could practically feel it in a sense. I believe this team can get to the playoffs and beyond. This is based on what I've seen and read online.

    Offensively, Ryan Tannehill is showing off in practices like never before and is truly taking control of this team. I join him in believing that he is a Super Bowl caliber quarterback right now, not later. His confidence should affect his teammates as they prepare for the season. He is connecting on passes in ways he didn't last year. For some of those who say he can't throw deep, he prove that he can time and time again. It may not be a 60 yard bomb or anything but he has thrown it deep and accurately too. Jarvis Landry is continuing to be the beast that he is with that crazy catch in practice. I have no doubt he is Tannehill's primary target this year. The red zone so far has improved. I want to see what happens in pads. But I like what I see. I have to mention DeVante Parker in the short time he has practiced, he has looked sensational. We added Jay Ajayi to the mix of backs which will make them stronger. I truly believe that Douglas and Turner will be the starting guards for the line. Albert be back week 1 and so I'm excited for what the offense is going to do.

    Defensively, we have some changes and additions to this unit that I like. First of all they simplified the defense band and added players like Suh to strengthen the defense. Players are coming back healthy and that excites me to think about. I don't feel no one is going to want to play us come week 1.

    I know you all know this stuff and probably more. So my intention was not to insult your intelligence on the matter. I wanted to simply express my thoughts on this issue. (I'm the only Dolfan I know in my area to talk Dolphins with). That being said I believe they can overcome their 4th quarter issues and get into the playoffs with no less than a 12-4 record. I honestly think they can go 13-3.

    Ok I'm done ranting and raving. What do y'all have to say?
     
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  2. padre31

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    I'm very optimistic about this season, basically THill has progressed and the Wr corps is revamped along with the offensive line.

    Adding Suh to replace Starks also was an upgrade

    The one downside is the Jest and Jills will be much stronger teams this season, this is probably the toughest division in the NFL
     
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  3. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    That's very true. It seems to be always one of the stronger divisions in the NFL. But we seem to play at times that we are so far ahead of the teams in our division. Then at times we don't play like we belong in this division. For some reason I believe differently than before about this team.
     
  4. Dorfdad

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    Sadly I feel this is a step backward this year. Entirely new staff on offense for the most part. #1 Pick not to do any summer practicing. I think it will take 6 games for them to get in sync and we have a very tough schedule this year on paper. Im guess we go 9-7 8-8 again this year but Philbin gets resigned for 4 years...and the fans go wild on ross!
     
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  5. Fin4Ever

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    I am with you Dolfan7171...My guess is that we could be 13-3, but will go at least 11-5...I do honestly go deep into the playoffs and possibly win it all depending on team health and leadership.
     
  6. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    The Dolphins will do again what they always do: Loose to teams they should beat and beat teams they should loose to. Just enough to make you slightly optimistic about next year. They have become experts at this type of football. They will resign Philbin to a new 5 year contract, to the dismay of half the fan base. The new look stadium will be nice and fans will over look the once again 9-7 Miami Dolphins. Some fans will start a grass roots campaign called "FIRE ROSS" which will catch on in So. Florida. So much so that Stephen Ross will call in long term friend and confidant Carl Peterson to assess should he actually fire himself. After much publicity and a world wide search for a new owner, Ross flies to New York to meet with Donald Trump only to be stopped by security because Trump has been elected the new president of the United States. Just a little to late Mr Ross..........story of the phins2015
     
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  7. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Im going to PM you my address. Please send me a gallon of that cool-aid
     
  8. firedan

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    I think most fans are optimistic now and how can we not be with all that has transpired during the off season?
    One thing is for sure is New England will not have the cake walk they have taken advantage of for so many years.
    I am so ready to see how things shake out and am really feeling good about the future of the team.
     
  9. cbrad

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    Last year's team could have easily had 12-13 wins only if this was a different team! One of the biggest weaknesses of our team has been how to win close games. We are literally 50/50 in this during the Philbin era if you go by some stats. For example, in games decided by 4 points or less, Philbin is 10-10. Some of that is the offense's fault, and obviously some is due to those infamous defensive collapses at the end.

    Compare that to NE under Brady. Since 2001, he is 32-16 (if my count is correct) on games decided by 4 points or less in the regular season (left out postseason).

    I think Suh's addition will vastly reduce those defensive collapses at the end, so that's half the equation. But I gotta see to believe before I think Tannehill can consistently put the nail in the coffin like Brady does. To be clear, I think Tannehill will keep improving and end up being an above average QB for us for a long time, but our opponents do not fear Tannehill's ability to put together a game-winning drive anywhere like they fear Brady in that respect. We'll see what happens!
     
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    Totally agree with NE. First, they won't have Brady for 4 games, unless that suspension is reduced. And second all the other teams have improved (especially the D-lines!). I will be sooooo happy to see the inevitable decline of Brady (HAS to happen due to age at some point). Then we'll really see how good Belichick is. I still think most of that is Brady, though I will give Belichick credit for being a great X's and O's coach.
     
  11. roy_miami

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    We have an easy schedule: No cold weather games at all. I think the whole NFC East is going to be a disaster; Chip Kelly has lost his marbles and I predict the Cowboys are going to come back down to earth. Good QBs we face (ranked from best):
    Brady
    Rivers
    Eli
    Flacco
    Romo
    Luck

    I wouldn't be surprised if Brady takes a bit of a step back and there is trouble in San Diego. Tannehill is kind of in that group. We should split with this group at worst. The rest of the QBs we play are crap. This is where Suh should be a huge factor. I don't see him intimdating the great QBs, but against the mediocre to bad QBs he could wreck their game. So I'll give us one loss against the next group of QBs, putting 8-1 vs that group and 4-3 vs the above group of QBs which puts us at 12-4. And maybe variance evens out and we get a few last second comeback wins of our own to win 13 or 14 games.

    So I think we could easily win 12, but will probably only win 9 or 10.
     
  12. Fin4Ever

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  13. Pandarilla

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    I'm with you 71! I'd rather be cut down in a hail of gunfire than second guess what on paper looks to be the best squad we've had sans Marino...Cover Me!
     
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  14. djphinfan

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    omgoodness, there totally room for optimism..

    It looks like the relationship between hickey and t-balls is symbiotic and both know their roles.

    It looks like we have found a good evaluator of talent who has no ego and just likes to watch film and pick good players.

    Looks like we have an offensive coordinator who is grooming the qb into the scheme and the scheme is going into its 2nd year.

    finally have a real good wide receiver unit on our team, with depth, speed, six and natural ability..

    we have an explosive athletic tight end, finally.

    We added arguably the best defensive football player in the game, a truly dominating force that requires two men to defend him.

    we have a lot of young talent that has some experience..

    were the 5th youngest team in football led by an experience ascending young qb.

    Someone with some sense, and someone who cared enough, is bringing a different dynamic to our stadium which was desperately needed.

    our schedule looks pretty good.

    we have a unique offensive player that seems to have intangibles that can inspire a team.

    two starters are on track to start the season coming off injury..

    team looks like it should be able to compete at a pretty high level...

    only two questions i see at this point is the coach and the qb, can the coach stick to his beliefs and make a culture out of the guys he wanted.and can the qb start to become a playmaker in his own right so we can perform as a team at a high level.
     
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  15. Piston Honda

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    I'm optimistic bordering on arrogant about this team. The talent is there, leadership too, on both sides of the ball. Contrary to popular believe the coaching staff is competent at worst.

    There simply aren't many teams who can handle the DL. Or stop the run. That alone is gonna give Miami a chance to win. The WR corps is exponentially better suited to run Lazor's system and Tannehill will be more comfortable in his 2nd year. The RZ offense should be much improved, same goes for the run D. My only concern is injuries.

    You know you have a good roster when people's primary concern is offensive guard.
     
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  16. padre31

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    I'd normally agree, adding Jennings makes that less of an impactful injury.

    What does worry me is the "hole in the submarine" meaning we can think the ship is tight, then a Vet Cb misses a tackle, a FG kicker blows the kick, OL underpeforms..Wr drops the easy TD catch

    What we have lacked for a long long time is a commitment, from top to bottom, to finishing jobs
     
  17. Brasfin

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    Disagree completely. Why would it take 6 games to get in sync when last season everyone was learning a new offense (including the QB), and we only took about 4 games to get rolling?

    This season Tannehill is already very familiar with the offense and, by all acounts, is looking even better than last season. The QB is really the most important pice of the puzzle for the offense to get running, and if he's comfortable, the rest of the offense catches up very quickly.

    As for the defense, we were playing pretty well in the first half of the season... now Delmas looks to be healthy, Misi is a year into his MLB position, the younger players look to be maturing (Chris McCain, Walt Aikens, Michael Thomas, Jamar Taylor), we drafted some promising rookies (Phillips and Lippett come to mind), and last but not least, added arguably the most disruptive interior lineman in the league.

    There's really no reason to think we'll take a step back, unless some very drastic things happen (knock on wood), which I won't even think about.
     
  18. DolphinGreg

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    You can also add in that 4 of the first 6 opponents are the Redskins, Jaguars, Titans and Texans who were all sub-par last year and none of whom boast great QBs. Half the games are in Miami as well so there's no need for cynicism. The other two opponents are the Bills and Jets who also lack top-tier QBs but who have obviously challenged Miami as of late but those two games are at home.


    I don't see why anyone would really expect less than 4 wins coming out of that opening stretch. Anything less would be a monumental disappointment. As the season progresses and the opponents get tougher, the team should get better to offset that.


    The toughest part of Miami's schedule will be games 7-11 in which they'll face the Pats, Eagles and Bills in quick succession all on the road as well as the Cowboys and Jets (in NY) immediately there after. The fact that all 3 divisional games are on the road as well as the Pats game being on a short week worry me, but if this team wants to make it into the Play-offs they can bounce back against the Ravens, Giants and Chargers before squaring off against the Colts and Pats in Miami to close things out.


    I'll be honest, Miami is not going to coast into the Play-offs. There's just very little chance of that happening given the toughness of the middle and late stretches but if the team has the guts, it can find a way to win. That will include playing well on the road, bouncing back after a tough loss and maximizing their late-season home-field advantages.

    If they can do those things, they will very likely make the play-offs, but I do see why there's reason to hold back optimism. It's not a foregone conclusion at this point. If Miami loses more than 2-3 of those mid-season games, it could erase all the progress of the easier early stretch.

    Oh and we both know that the Pats don't lose a lot of big late-season games and that the Colts are as geared up as they've ever been.
     
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  19. Piston Honda

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    Enough with the schedule, how many years does it have to happen folks???

    Under Philbin the Fins have the same record vs the Pats as they do vs the Bills. The home team is 0-6 in the Fins-Jets rivalry since 2012. It's more about matchups and intangibles than it is about generic talent level or team records.

    I look at this team and rack my brain thinking of how opposing teams are gonna move the ball on Miami's D or keep Miami's offense in check for four quarters. I'm totally open to new angles but IMHO there are NOT a lot of avenues for the teams on this year's schedule.
     
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  20. jw3102

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    I will be more optimistic regarding this team once the 2016 season arrives. That will give Ross the opportunity to finally hire a decent head coach. It will also provide the FO the opportunity to provide upgrades on the OL, at LB and in the secondary.

    With Philbin as the head coach, I see 2015 as another non playoff year, with the strong possibility that the Dolphins will once again finish third in the AFC East Division, with their third straight 8-8 record.

    With a new HC and one more draft to upgrade the weaker positions on the team, a return to the playoffs will be a stronger possibility for this team in 2016, IMO.
     
  21. PhinFan1968

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    Not that I want it to or think it will happen, but if it did...What would you think about Bill Lazor as HC?
     
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  22. Fin4Ever

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    I will send some for you..that and something for your constant and yearly pessimism.:up:
     
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  23. DolphinGreg

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    Well, unfortunately Miami has long been a team that can't reliably accumulate the easy wins and so whatever heroic things they have managed against the more elite competition usually get washed away. If Philbin has fixed anything, it's that strange pattern. Miami is now winning against the lesser opponents while falling painfully shy against the better ones.

    So while everyone acknowledges that getting more than 3 divisional wins in a year is a challenge for any AFC East team, it's pretty clear that the non-divisional games have become the best way to plot out Miami's overall success. It will probably come down to Miami's record in those games which include: Eagles, Giants, Ravens, Chargers, Colts and Cowboys.

    And if you're not a little concerned about that tough middle stretch then consider that for about 6 weeks Miami will face opponents who were all better than them by record in 2014 except for one which ironically happened to be the last team to beat Miami and who has loaded up on defense during the past year. Two of those games will be against teams which held the best record in football, 1 of which is a divisional game on the road with about 3 days to prepare. Oh, and coming out of that really difficult 6 game stretch, the Dolphins will face Eli Manning, Philip Riviers, Andrew Luck and Tom Brady to close out the season.

    That should give pause to anyone thinking Miami is going to march straight to a 12- or 13-win season. While that's possible, it's unlikely.



    If they beat up on the easy early stretch, don't do worse than .500 in the division and somehow manage more than 2 wins from the above 6, then they're a Play-off team with somewhere around 10 wins.

    However, if they do worse than .500 in the division or don't capitalize on the easy early stretch or lose a bunch of games against the above 6, it'll be another emotionally rough year with fans commiserating at the end about how close they were and what few pieces the team needs to get over the hump.



    I agree that we as fans have been in this position every year for quite awhile but at the same time...nothing is guaranteed and while I know you're excited to see the D-line and these new WRs, the team is still yet to play a game.
     
  24. PhinFan1968

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    Amen...I'm with you on all of that.

    We split with the ENTIRE division last year...which was an improvement over the year before, and vastly better than 2012. The vaunted Cheatriots are 2-2 against Miami in the past 2 years...division games are what they are...VERY unpredictable and tough...particularly in the toughest NFL division since, like, Marino's days (and no I'm not making that up or slinging hyperbole...it's true).

    The Cheatriots BARELY snuck away 2-0 against the Jets...the refs gave them one of them, and combined they won those 2 games by THREE fkng points...against a 4-12 team. The vaunted, immortal, GOAT Cheatriots. They're fallible, and they've lost more than they've gained this off-season from what it looks like, and if Brady sits a few games, they'll be behind the 8 ball, looking up. They also split with Beefalo.

    Division games are the exception to the rule and a crapshoot...we really need to go at least 4-2 there this year (a tall order, I know)...2015 will be the year we get the sweep on the Patsies.

    Last year we played 10 games against the Top 10 defenses...this year, 9...all thanks to the AFC East's overabundance of defensive prowess. The AFC East has always been a slugfest, and that certainly doesn't look to change for the foreseeable future.

    Now..as for the rest of the schedule...nobody on it concerns me one iota with the exception of Dallas (hold out Dez!), Houston (Top 10 Defense...we've never beat 'em, and they still have JJ...), and Baltimore (Top 10 Defense...Mother @#$@#$s)...MAYBE San Diego (don't we usually have issues on the west coast?).

    All-in-all, with some bumps in the road 9-7 should be the floor...11-5 if some things go our way...higher with some of that luck the Cheatriots usually get (I can wish).
     
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  25. dolfan7171

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    I think the coach-qb connection will finally work out. I just feel that everyone is on the same page. It would shock me if we don't do better this year.
     
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    Good post.

    I agree that the AFCE is monster division this year, anything better than 3-3 will be a pleasant surprise. Where I think the Fins make up ground is vs the NFCE and AFCS. None of those teams have elite defenses, though Houston worries me w their front 7. Romo will be an issue of his OL can stalemate Suh and co.. Luck is a magician. But I realistically think 6-2 is doable vs those two divisions, meaning 9 wins with a 3-3 mark in division games. That leaves the two flex games vs SD and Baltimore, split those and its a 10 win season.

    I feel like 9 wins is the floor if the team stays healthy. 11 wins if things go well, 10 would be my guesstimate.
     
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  27. Fin4Ever

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    No Greg, it is just called optimism...the game of football sometimes is just so close it is very hard to predict what will happen...Miami was a few plays away from no worse than 11-5..but, we ended up 8-8. It is very easy for you to pick out a safe 8-8 record..after all we have been hovering there for 20+ years, but our team is finally getting built through the draft as well as some very good UDFA along with the right fit free agents. I will take the high road, the unchartered territory and say we go 12-4....No worse than 11-5.:up:
     
  28. Linus

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    The R. Jones suspension hurt last year too. I believe he will be an elite level safety this year....along with 3 other guys who are elite at their positions (Grimes, Wake, Suh). I can easily see Vernon and Jenkins improving quite a bit, Taylor being as decent as Finnegan was last year, and McCain having more impact plays than Jordan or Wheeler last year. If even one of these guys makes a leap and is at or near a Pro Bowl level (hopefully Phillips because that'd be insane)...we may even be underestimating the potential.

    We had a top running game last year. We found a way to trade away Wallace and Ellerbe (which many thought impossible). I think some of this happened too quickly or something....but we signed Suh and added Stills, Jennings, Cameron, and Parker as pass catchers. If someone told you that in February, you would've never believed them.

    Depth is better in all three phases, all over the place. Remember that Chargers beat down last year? I see that sort of game happening a few times this year.
     
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  30. djphinfan

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    I have us winning 10 games..
     
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    I know this sounds weird, but, I am cautiously very optimistic. If a few things go our way this season, we could really start scoring some serious points on offense. And, with our defense, that could make us a legit Superbowl team. I'm not kidding when I say that. But, we still don't have the depth to overcome injuries like we had last season on the offensive line. I do think we're deeper on defense. Inside Linebacker could be a problem. Misi can't stay healthy. But, with our D-Line, it might not even matter.

    But, if we can stay healthy, the sky is the limit.

    With that said, I now wanna see it on the field.
     
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    You know my man, I believe you that potentially we are a Super Bowl team. Depth is a concern but I believe it will be good for now. I think the depth will come in the future. I agree with you that the team needs to stay healthy. I think that may be the key to the season... durability.
     
  33. CrunchTime

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    There is another factor that should contribute to success and that is continuity .

    We have the same coaching staff and offensive and defensive scheme with a few tweaks And that wiil help the players to improve
     
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  34. DolphinGreg

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    I'm not unfamiliar with being optimistic. I predicted this team would get 9 wins as it stood before any of this off-season went down judging by the schedule it faced and the talent it had. The fact they upgraded in many places makes 10-12 wins a real possibility, I know.

    I'm not knocking optimism.

    Check my record and you'll see that I've been plenty optimistic even when it's not popular. I have a mean reputation in the eyes of some because I'm not crowning Landry a hero quite yet or because I'm not overlooking the fact that Tannehill has yet to really put the team on his back or because I'm not at this moment going to guarantee a big break-out season.

    The fact I recognize there will be challenges ahead doesn't make me evil. It doesn't mean I haven't considered and given a lot of thought to the possibly this team will be successful.

    There aren't cynical fans...there are simply those that in contrast to some appear cynics because they are more realistic and/or conservative in their predictions. I'm happy to be one of those. There's not need to declare victory before the battle has even begun.

    And yes it bugs me that I was one of the most optimistic people when I joined and now somehow I'm the cynic that apparently disapproves of most good Dolphin players...that storyline is just not true. I was nailed to a cross for having the guts to be a little optimistic about the HC.
     
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  35. dolfan7171

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    I understand. Believe it or not I'm rooting for the coach. I know he isn't doing everything right but I don't believe it's all his fault. I may not be able to support that at fact or fault but that is my opinion. Don't trip on being optimistic. If you know me, I'm very optimistic on these pages.
     
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  36. dolfan7171

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    You make a good point man. We have most of the same stuff from last year which helps keep some if not most of the chemistry together. Good post.
     
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    Damn. I wish I had an ounce of confidence in our head coach, my optimism would be through roof if I did. However, I fear will have to win games despite him.
     
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    I understand he does some bonehead things but overall, I don't think he is all that bad. I'm not trying to make excuses for him. I know he's been in this for a few years now, but this is still his 1st HC gig. I believe he is learning what works and what doesn't. Plus I believe he is coming into a sense of knowing how he wants to coach a team: what expects and not expect, and so on. This is a big year for him. I'm looking forward to see what happens this year.
     
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  39. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I certainly hope you are right and I am wrong.
     
  40. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    Me too. It's my opinion even its only mine. I just want this season to start already!!
     

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