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****The Official 2015-16 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by TiP54, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    You're allowed to keep like 20 on roster for training camp right? Nothing will be happening with any of these guys for a while.
     
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  2. ckparrothead

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    Josh Richardson with 17 steals and 9 blocked shots to go with 38% three point shooting (8 of 21) and 77% free throw shooting (20 of 26) has my attention. 118 points, 28 rebounds, 16 assists...261 minutes.

    On a per 36 minute basis we are talking 16.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 2.3 steals, 1.3 blocks.
     
  3. CaribPhin

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    That's just great utility out of the twelfth guy on your roster.

    Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
     
  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Per Barry Jackson:

    I guess it makes sense to try and dump Napier if you think about it from the sense that when they drafted Napier they desperately needed a high quality PG, and then later they get Goran Dragic and so now that's kind of moot. They may want to see Napier go develop and play somewhere he'll actually have a chance to be more than a rotational guy.

    The Chalmers stuff appears to be purely money driven. And I wouldn't be surprised if ownership is kind of driving that and overruling Riley a little bit.
     
  5. Vertical Limit

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    I want Chalmers gone but are we building a reputation of being cheap? Seems like it..i said it two weeks ago on this thread Micky will take the savings ten times out of ten if the decision was to keep or move Chalmers.

    It makes me wonder what kind of team Arison had in mind if Loria sold the Marlins to him when Arison was interested.
     
  6. ckparrothead

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    Considering the luxury taxes the Heat have spent I would say that Arison is anything but cheap. It would literally be the last word I use to describe him.
     
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  7. sports24/7

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    I don't understand moving Napier unless you are getting something valuable in return for him. He's making just over $1M and still has some upside. I don't really see the benefit of moving him to dump salary. At this point, you'd be selling low on a guy who has the potential to be a solid starter, or good backup at an important position like PG. Hopefully his showing at the summer league has given the Heat pause on looking to deal him.
     
  8. Section126

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    Spo bangs the table each year and buts heads with Riley over keeping 3 PG's, while Riley insists on 2.

    And now they are trading both backups? I don;t believe it, and that's not an opinion.

    Chalmers has been asked for by several teams, most notably, Golden State. He is still here. What does that tell you? 2 + 2 = 4 guys.
     
  9. ckparrothead

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  11. Vertical Limit

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    Good trade by the Rockets... Got Ty Lawson for some scrubs and a future first round pick.

    Lawson
    Ariza
    Harden
    Dwight
     
  12. Not So Fast

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    Ariza not Parsons.
     
  13. ckparrothead

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    Richardson's highlights against the Kings in his final summer league game, 23 points.

    [video=youtube;IwQk4LpDHcg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQk4LpDHcg[/video]
     
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  14. Section126

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    I am told that the Heat will "allow" for Richardson to play his way onto the team in Training camp. In other words, they "want" to keep him here and not elsewhere.

    They must tender him by Sept. 5th, so they will have to commit early, almost 3 weeks before camp officially opens up.

    My very educated guess is that Richardson will not accept the tender, because he believes he can get a full rookie scale contract with the Heat (Starts around 580k per year).

    All of this means of course, that if they keep Rio and Bird, that Ennis, TJ, and Walker are likely out via cut, or trade.
     
  15. Vertical Limit

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    Phil Jackson with an indirect shot at Winslow and Duke players, saying Duke players dont live up to expectations in the NBA. Thats him trying to defend not taking Winslow.
     
  16. Section126

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    That's also him repeating a nonsense narrative and not investigating for himself to realize that it is 100% false.
     
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  17. Section126

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  18. schmolioot

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    Yet cities continually fall for this.

    While the owners are completely shameless with cajones the size of watermelons for seeking this graft, it's the politicians who allow it that are worse.

    The people whoa re supposed to be the stewards of the public good can't even grasp basic economics or read any one of the hundred studies that says these stadiums/arenas aren't worth it.

    There are only so many places for teams to move. If cities started standing up it would end.
     
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  19. Galant

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    This needs to happen.

    Then after that, conferences need to be eliminated as a consideration for playoff berths.

    Plain and simple - The top 16 teams from anywhere should be the ones in the playoffs.
     
  20. schmolioot

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    Justise Winslow hanging out with KD at his basketball camp.

    Plant the seeds Justise
     
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  21. Stringer Bell

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    I think at this point cities aren't 'falling for it'. Some, yes. But many just see value in having a hometown team. Hell, if you gave me the choice, i'd gladly have my taxes increase by 0.5% if it meant the Heat came to my city.
     
  22. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That argument doesn't fly with me.

    Is there some psychic value to having a team? Certainly. Is that value equivalent to what is shelled out in actual dollars? Hell no.

    Take Milwaukee as the most recent example. The Bucks have been in the bottom third of attendance for more than a decade and have no statewide footprint at all. In the playoffs against the Bulls, they only sold out due to the thousands of Bulls fan who came from chicago (the Dolphins know this feeling well)

    So, despite the fact that the Bucks are clearly a niche team in the state, they were gifted $250 million in state money, plus local money. All while Scott Walker cuts everything else.

    I posit to you that not only would the Bucks probably have not moved even if no funding came through, that even if they did, it would have little impact.

    The true horror of the Marlins Park boondoggle, beyond the absolute malfeasance of the elected officials, is that they spent a billion dollars to build something NO ONE wanted. People still don't go. There is very little psychic value to the Marlins (and I am a fan, if you force me to pick a favorite MLB team). And if the city had refused to build the stadium, I am pretty certain the Marlins would still be here.

    I just don't believe in the relocation threats anymore. There just aren't that many good options for these leagues and owners.
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    I had a dream that Josh Richardson put on an aerial clinic during a game. So he needs to make the team to make that happen.

    I also dreamed LeBron came out with a brand of chili being sold in grocery stores called "Fully Cook'd" and the can was that Cleveland Cavs rust red with pee yellow writing.

    I have strange dreams.
     
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  24. Section126

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    Will say this...

    The area around the AAA was a first class dump before that arena was built. It's now Adult disney land with first class restaurants, bars, clubs, and shops....to go with very expensive condos.
     
  25. Section126

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    BTW, I might be doing some TV stuff with Justise Winslow soon....
     
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  26. schmolioot

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    I haven't been there in a long time, but wasn't Bayside there long before the arena?

    And I imagine that area would have eventually been built up with or without the arena, because it's a desirable area in the first place and people actually go to the Heat games. It's kind of a chicken/egg thing. Did the arena make the area desirable or did the arena move into what Arison knew was desirable land?
     
  27. schmolioot

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    Cool. Make sure you shout out Roc Nation
     
  28. Section126

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    Not so sure. Bayside is very insulated. All of this just sprouted up after the arena got built. The condos especially.

    What the Arena did is bring 20k people to that area very often..and those people consume. Not only Heat games....it's the weekly concerts there.
     
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  29. Vertical Limit

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    I go to 30 games a season (Marlins), just because we're still somewhere in the bottom in attendance, people show up to more regular season games there than they did in Sun Life, it's just true.

    And now they're going to have David Beckham as a neighbor in that area, and more demolition is coming (a lot of it are homes) and that Orange Bowl site will be cleaned out even more. You should have seen what a dump the area was before Marlins Park, not exactly a place you want to raise your kids.
     
  30. Fin-Omenal

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    You guy's should kiss, be good for ratings.
     
  31. Section126

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    well, Espn blows LeBron and their numbers are pretty good...so..why not?
     
  32. MikeHoncho

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    I think it was just a marina/fishery before the marketplace was built around it. Once Brickell started taking place, it was pretty much a no brainer to put a mall there.
     
  33. CaribPhin

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    To be fair, utility is hard to quantify, but it does exist. The utility of having a team can be worth the extra value. The bonding experiences and other such aspects of fandom do have some value. It's disingenuous to argue that there will be tangible monetary return but if you can secure good terms for the city/municipality under the idea that it's just inherently good for an area to have a team then a publicly funded stadium is not the worst idea in the world.
     
  34. aesop

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  35. Silverphin

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    Some hype.

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...-udonis-haslem-still-has-burning-desir/nm4SC/
     
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  37. Vertical Limit

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    I don't drink but I might need a few of those bottles each time Wade misses a game this season.....
     
  38. ckparrothead

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    Heat trade Shabazz Napier to Orlando for a protected 2nd rounder is what I'm hearing. I guess the GM that spoke to Barry was right.

    Trading him makes sense. When they drafted him, they didn't have Goran Dragic so they took a shot on Shabazz despite some physical shortcomings. They were pretty desperate at that position. Then Goran fell in their laps and suddenly it's like...oops, sorry Shabazz.

    This probably means Chalmers is safe.
     
  39. Vertical Limit

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    They must have real high expectations of Josh Richardson to do this... don't like it... but oh well...
     

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